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Sinn Fein moving towards Commons representation

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Badmonkey ,Paddyogall and littlerod boy, please keep it up lads as you are making complete fools of yourselves and I for one am enjoying every minute of it:)

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 26/01/2011 20:06:16    854533

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people want to elect an ex british member of parliment with the title Crown steward and bailiff of the manor of Northstead, Baron Gerry Adams- is this what irish republicanism is about? :D the irony of sinn fein complaining for years about foriegn rulers has finally come home to roost- the term west brit is thrown about alot on this board - would it be safe to say that louth truly would be west british should they elect Crown steward and bailiff of the manor of Northstead, Baron Gerry Adams to become a TD? i think every politician in the country is no fully bound to call him by his full title from now on :) with a title like that it just confirms that Gerry is more british than the british themselves :D

Arise Baron Gerry Adams true protector of the crown!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 26/01/2011 20:36:43    854568

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grow a sense of humour che...

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 26/01/2011 20:41:55    854575

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CheFinny- the only thing wrong there is that Cameron said he applied and accepted the title- what doesnt change is that that is his official title :D love the spin that you make out he is not a Baron when he 100% is as its the rule whether he accepted it of not :D Arise Baron and true protector of the crown :)

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 26/01/2011 20:45:23    854577

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From what I've looked up the Manor of Northstead was once a collection of fields and farms in the parish of Scalby in the North Riding of Yorkshire. At present the area of the Manor is part of the Barrowcliff area of the town of Scarborough.

I think 'Baron Adams' should accept the title, start charging rent of his English tenants for living in his barony and distribute the rent money to hospitals in West Belfast and Louth! Or maybe he could now declare the barony as soverign Irish territory and keep it in exchange for the occupied 6!!

Just a suggestion.........

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 26/01/2011 20:53:17    854588

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26/01/2011 14:54:11
paddyogall
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Lets see. Will I believe an upstanding politician like David Cameron or Gerry Adams who continuously repeats he was never in the IRA.




You should have known who was lying.

David is a real politician.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 26/01/2011 21:56:42    854655

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Are you serious littlerod? Gerry Adams hasn't applied for that position.If the British need to bestow it on him anyway just to allow their government to function then thats their problem,not Gerrys or Sinn Feins.Its a pleasant change from the "titles" they have been giving him for many years:)

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 27/01/2011 08:34:35    854664

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Ulsterman
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After the 1916 uprising many Dubliners turned on the Volunteers and abused and spat at them as they were marched down Sackville St.



That never happened Ulsterman. You are watching too many fictionalised dramas. The Volunteers were mostly Dubs. Do you think their own families came out to attack them? The only place they were abused was when they were marched past British barracks where persumably the soldiers families came out.

That aside. liathroid boy and Paddy show ignorance of their own county's history. Michael Davitt was also made Baron after he resigned in 1899. It's a way of insulting people who don't accept Britain's right to rule in Ireland and other dissidents. Tony Benn had to go to court to renounce a peerage. It is also clear that the British Tories are part of the Irish elite's campaign to damage Shinners during the elction here. I think that perhaps is worthy of more comment.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 27/01/2011 09:04:30    854678

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the leader of irish republicanism is a member of the birtish establishment- Adams you have truly being found out- i actually hope you get elected as the people of louth will never live this down by electing a british citizen, who doesnt live in ireland and never has, a member of parliment, and a chief stweard and baliff of the manor of northestead Baron Gerry Adams- who calls himself an irish republican :D he is as much an irish republican as the queen herself :D This really does highlight how pathetic sinn fein really are- I think a leadership change is definately on the cards for the feiners- no wonder he makes a complete fool of himself every time he speaks as he knows absolutely nothing about ireland and its quiet obvious now why that is! is there any diference between Baron Adams running in louth and say david cameron running in donegal? I certainly think not!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 27/01/2011 09:29:10    854686

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From BBC News

"House of Commons Speaker John Bercow has ruled that Gerry Adams has been disqualified from Parliament.

Earlier, Downing Street had apologised to Mr Adams after the prime minister said he had accepted a Crown title."

I suggest all you doubters should apologise to Mr Adams too:)

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 27/01/2011 09:46:47    854700

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Derry ledd- the title is bestowed on him- he cant ask or refuse it- the only thing they got wrong was saying he formally accepted it! he is 100% Baron Gerry Adams that is 100% unquestionable- the title was good enough for daniel o connells son and was good enough for Miachael Davitt is it not good enough for Gerry?

Let the feiners gloss it up every way they want as its 100% true you accept this is your fate as soon as you become an MP

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 27/01/2011 10:33:28    854734

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The fact the you have to jump on this and try and make a laugh of it only goes to highlight peoples insecurity of Sinn Fein. This happens as a result of the British Constitution, unfortunately the 6 counties are still ruled under that, Adams and Co are trying to peacefully change that.

Ballboy you said earlier in this thread "actions speak louder than words". Gerry's actions were to resign from his MP seat, the title is only words.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 27/01/2011 10:50:21    854745

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derry ledd- you hit the nail on the head- the 6 counties are ruled by the british and now Baron Adams is fully 100% part of the British establishment :) Insecurities? sinn fein will do what they always do i.e. protest as that is all they can do! they wont be in government as everyone can see straight through them and their lies- there will be no sinn fein TD in mayo- is there even one running? noone knows and noone care- the Taoiseach will be from Mayo thats all the security anyone from mayo needs :)

same old sound bites out of sinn fein and their supports- if you disagree with them you have an agenda, if you criticise their laughable claim to republicanism while all being paid by the crown- you are a west brit, if you call them by their official titles- you are insecure, if you mention their crime- you have no proof. To be honest its all laughable they remind you alot of joe higgins, So Joe who is going to win the the match at the weekend? Joe: it is the fault of big business and corporate agendas. whats your favourite food joe? Joe: Ordinary working people are being exploited and being consumed by corporations. Will ya have a pint joe? Joe: we need a fundamental shift towards a socialist economy run for and by the people.

Lads in all fairness its just one big yawn after another- not an ounce of substance to any of these people- mary lou, doherty and adams are disgracing themselves every time they see a camera or a microphone and that is no agenda they are doing that completely themselves- every time they open their mouth you are cringing with embarassment

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 27/01/2011 11:42:29    854770

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derry ledd- you hit the nail on the head- the 6 counties are ruled by the british and now Baron Adams is fully 100% part of the British establishment :)

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Exactly ball boy. That is the unfortunate situation. When I see people in the south finding Humour in this, as yourself, paddyogall and bad monkey have done, I think it is disrespectful to every Irish person in the six counties.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 27/01/2011 12:03:44    854785

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Derry ledd- you hit the nail on the head and your answer is in your reply- just like Baron Adams is legally part of the establishment- all people in the north are legally british regardless of what they think themselves - so i cant feel sorry for something that does not exist and im sorry if that offends you but its actually the reality of the situation. I would like to be jamican yet live in ireland but call myself jamican however in your case its just not factually or legally true to do so! and if the north is ever to become a part of ireland it is the people of ireland that will ultimately decide the people of northern ireland will have not say on the matter- their say will be with the british government!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 27/01/2011 12:19:17    854803

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As for my opinion on Sinn Fein. I completely agree with their stance on a United Ireland, and recognise the good work they do on the ground in the North in respect to this, and in this power sharing executive they do their best to make sure their voters are catered for, as any good politician should.

In the South, they have a long way to go. This is the first time they are having a proper influence on the election. They will win seats but they will need to do more in the future, especially on the economic front if they are going to expand more.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 27/01/2011 12:25:09    854807

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Ballboy your wrong in one key fact. Legally I am Irish, check the constitution in the North. I happen to have my passport in my pocket here, and under nationality there it is "Éirranach".

As regards to the politics of a United Ireland, it may be the retrospective governments that decide, i dont know so ill take your word in it, but I guarantee it will be the people of the North that will bring it to the table, either directly or indirectly, as it is clearly evident that most of the southern parties have forgot about us long ago.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 27/01/2011 12:32:32    854818

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Seriously the likes of ogall and ballboy you two guys are completly obsessed with gerry adams and Sinn Féin with all your proaganda and spin dr Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

Aussie_Duke (Tyrone) - Posts: 97 - 27/01/2011 12:51:54    854835

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derry ledd- so as you believe yourself to be irish:
Do you pay taxes your income tax to dublin?
Can you caim Irish welfare if you are not working?
Are you governed by irish law?
Can you chose to be governed by irish law?
Are you thought the Irish education cirruculum?
Can you chose to be thought the Irish education cirriculum?
Do the gardai drive around the streets?
If Sick does the NHS or HSE look after you?
Where does your Birth cert say you were born?
Have you a vote in Irish politics?
What is your primary currency euro or sterling?
Are you included in the CSO census of Ireland?

The list is endeless you are about as irish as the queen of england- she too can get a passport if she wants :)
Your really remind me of people dressed in green on the streets in new york on paddies day procliaming to be Irish and them about as irish as osama bin laden, oh yea doesnt that remind me sure didnt his brother have an irish passport too :D

The true acid test of ones nationality is to go outside the house of where they were born and reared and commit a crime- the law you are convicted under determines your case, and it is definately not some idea in your head it is 100% a legal matter. if i commit a crime her in ireland will i be deported to jamacia because that is where i would like to be from?

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 27/01/2011 13:42:24    854881

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Aussie that is Crown steward and bailiff of the manor of Northstead, Baron Gerry Adams you are speaking of, he earned his title i believe you should show him more respect and address him as such considering you do support him!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 27/01/2011 13:58:41    854896

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