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Sinn Fein moving towards Commons representation

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"If a man comes into my country, my home and tries to take it off me by force I will kill him and I will use any means at my disposal. I am sorry for nothing, I fear no man or God" - Dan Breen. The old IRA fought the British, likewise in 1969 Irish people once again were forced to take up arms to fight British brutality. There was NO difference between then and now. After the 1916 uprising many Dubliners turned on the Volunteers and abused and spat at them as they were marched down Sackville St. The modern IRA, whether people like it or not, had much support from the Nationalist people North and South. Only two faced hypocrites with their own narrow partitionist agenda differentiate between then and now.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 24/01/2011 21:19:20    853077

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The Civil Rights movement was noble and principled and that could not stop them from getting their heads cracked and beaten of the streets.What subsequently happened is what happens anywhere when you treat people with contempt and hatred.We are where we are today because of the sum of all that has happened in our recent past.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 24/01/2011 21:29:11    853090

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an oath is only words - actions define people and murderous actions define sinn fein

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 24/01/2011 21:55:31    853132

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Gerry Adams has been appointed Baron of the Manor of Northstead. What Hyprocrisy!!!!

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/01/26/adams-obeys-the-rules-takes-an-office-of-profit-under-the-crown/


David Cameron has just told Nigel Dodds MP and the Commons:

You may not have caught up with this yet but the member for West Belfast has just accepted an office of profit under the Crown. I'm not sure he will be delighted to become a baron of the manor of Northstead….. We are aiming for all members to take their seats. If any of them have a problem, they should come and talk about it.

Dodds had asked a question about SF abstentionism, This seems to have been a device to allow Cameron the break the news.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/01/2011 12:52:44    854107

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Gerry Adams Baron of Nothstead- Carlsberg dont do news but if they did this would be the funniest ever :D In all fairness after yesterdays morning Ireland disgrace Baron Adams would be aswell to stay clear of the commons as he would become a laughing stock there too. ITs not often you can get a politican that can make you cringe with embarassment but Baron Adams has fully corrected this! Perhaps he has a future in comedy

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 26/01/2011 13:33:43    854141

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ogall as always you try and make mischieve and end up making yourself looking silly. There is nothing hypocritical about what Gerry Adams has done. He has been 'appointed' to this role due to some constitutional quirk that dates back to the 1600's. He did not ask to have this role. In any event earlier in this thread you were arguing that it would be no big deal if Sinn Fein took an oath of allegiance to the English Crown and now your criticising Mr Adams for be appointed to some ceremonial english role. Therefore your own position is hardly consistent now is it!?

Here two links which explain the position:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12278193

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12287865

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 26/01/2011 13:43:11    854147

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Goodfella there was no legal requirement for him to quit as a British M.P before running for Dail Eireann. I think it is a great honour for him to accept this British title. The hypocrisy is that he choose to accept that while being absent from Westminster for "idealogical" reasons.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/01/2011 14:36:14    854189

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Sorry to burst your bubble paddy

"However, a spokesperson for Sinn Fein said that Mr Adams' only communication with the House of Commons had been a letter of resignation to the speaker.

The spokesperson added that he did not know from where Mr Cameron had got his information." - BBC NEWS

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 26/01/2011 14:48:30    854198

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Lets see. Will I believe an upstanding politician like David Cameron or Gerry Adams who continuously repeats he was never in the IRA.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/01/2011 14:54:11    854203

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This was posted as a new topic but as the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.

orchardman
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Gerry Adams crown stewart!


reading with interest in todays news that the leader of republicanism..????..mr adams has become crown stewart and baliff of the manor of northstead! at questiion time today david cameron told mps that adams had agreed to become the baron of the manor of northstead...which of course is an office for profit in camerons words...a laughing dup spokesman nigel dodds laughed at adams expense and claimed adams was embarrased to be accepting an office of the crown....i dont know why.......after all he has become an integral part of the british administration in stormount in recent years......im sure the people of louth would love to vote for the baron in the upcoming elections in the republic.

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 26/01/2011 16:35:35    854305

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now not only is Baron of Northsted a laughing stock in the dail he is also a laughing stock in the common in westminster, i wonder what spin the feiners will put on this and better still the people of louth - they are being asked to vote for a foreign Baron- folks ya couldnt actually make this stuff up its so crazy yet its 100% true!

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 26/01/2011 16:41:35    854315

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More slander and pathetic attempts to vilify the true leader of Irish Republicanism. I hope you know even at this stage that Gerry is a cert for Louth TD and that Sinn Fein representation absolutely will increase dramatically in the next Dail.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 26/01/2011 18:32:49    854416

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I haven't been on in a while but I see the connaught rangers are still at it.You'd have to wonder why there is such toadyism considering they were banished to the scrub land out wesht.It's a constant theme.

northpole (Derry) - Posts: 739 - 26/01/2011 18:35:24    854419

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I haven't been on in a while but I see the connaught rangers are still at it.You'd have to wonder why there is such toadyism considering they were banished to the scrub land out wesht.It's a constant theme.


I wish lots more of you Nordie's thought Mayo was a scrub land. Maybe then we wouldn't be infested with you lot in the summer time.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 26/01/2011 18:46:10    854433

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Gerry sent in a letter of resignation,its that simple.If the British government need more to relinquish him from the role then they will have to figure it out,not Gerry or Sinn Fein.He has not applied for any titles in order to resign by way of the archaic system the British have in place.If they need to bestow titles on him in order to make their government function well then thats their business and they need to conduct it.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 26/01/2011 18:56:03    854446

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paddyogall
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854433 northpole
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I haven't been on in a while but I see the connaught rangers are still at it.You'd have to wonder why there is such toadyism considering they were banished to the scrub land out wesht.It's a constant theme.

I wish lots more of you Nordie's thought Mayo was a scrub land. Maybe then we wouldn't be infested with you lot in the summer time.

I would suggest that the impoverished businessmen and women in Mayo would respectfully disagree with you there. How else would you feed your wains only for the millions we supply over the year

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 26/01/2011 19:17:55    854467

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paddyogall
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Lets see. Will I believe an upstanding politician like David Cameron or Gerry Adams who continuously repeats he was never in the IRA.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12292896

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 26/01/2011 19:34:16    854484

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Surely now as Crown steward and bailiff of the manor of Northstead and also as a possible TD, Gerry is the formost unionist on the island. Does anyone else hold a position in both the Dail and under the crown in the UK. Even Ian Paisley would be impressed at his attempts at not only serving the crown but also attempts to have servant of the crown elected in the republic!

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 26/01/2011 19:39:02    854491

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Artisan
It appears that there are more than Paddy at the mischief making.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 26/01/2011 19:44:16    854495

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12292896 />
Apparently David Cameron 'made a mistake' and an apology has been issued to Mr Adams.
So he is the laughing stock of the square route of sweet fa.
So funny to see all you west brits jumping on this story like a dog with a bone and laughing and gawfawing like those DUP and posh English lads.
Shame on the lot of you, our patriot dead would be turning in their graves at some of your comments.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 26/01/2011 20:02:12    854525

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