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Air Lingus staff removed from payroll

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liathroidboy
County: Mayo
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870951 oh lord HAG- you really do amaze me, all you are doing is offering alternative meansto what i say but its pointless with you as you only view things one way- your proving nothing bar there are different ways of doing things - would it not just be safer for me to say i use qualitative analysis does that sort it for you. its pointess debating with you on this i use my method you use other methods i couldnt be bothered going into the finer details - you may have plenty of time for deep sophisticaed anaysis talk.
18/02/2011 17:57:18
liathroidboy
County: Mayo
Posts: 1793

870955 new minimum wage being introduced in hotels - im loving it :)

HAG is a positivist i am a phenonologist in researh methods- never the two shall meet

You're a SPOOFER ! You are now employing two of your regular strategies to obscure your complete humiliation. Firstly you say it is "pointless debating" with Hag. Of course it is. Hag knows what he is talking about and you don't !

Secondly you throw in a typically inflamatory statement ala, "new minimum wage being introduced in hotels - im loving it :)", with regards to hotel workers in the hope that it will deflect peoples attention away from your exposure as a complete SPOOFER. ! I've news for you liathroidi-it won't work

To quote your own phrase "I'm loving it !"

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 18/02/2011 19:00:25    871037

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HAG_AND_CHEESE
County: Tipperary
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870927 Greengrass:

In hindsight sorry if I came off as being a bit pompous in my reply I think we'er pretty much on the same page!!

No problems whatsoever Hag. I agree. We are pretty much on the same page and after what you did today I owe you a major laugh. As I said earlier , great job !

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6180 - 18/02/2011 19:02:54    871041

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i use my method you use other methods i couldnt be bothered going into the finer details

The method I'm using at the moment uses qualitive and quantitive measures to say you use qualitive measures again is very vague..... also would DMAIC mean anything to u??

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 18/02/2011 19:21:44    871065

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god bell you HAG spending al night trawling through the internet coming up with all your little sophisticated statistical techniques- i applaud you for that i really do, but trying to pick holes in what i do- wll lets just say you never will- im top of my game, know exactly what im doing as my bank balance will testify- keep digging good man you will reach australia before you catch me out

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 19/02/2011 09:49:02    871234

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Answer his question liathroid, if you can !!

I doubt you will be able to though !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 19/02/2011 13:28:20    871364

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cavan this one is for the adults - run along and play with people your own age

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 20/02/2011 10:09:42    871673

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Yes liathroidboy, when you can't answer the question you start your insults !! Some businessman !!

ANSWER THE QUESTION !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 20/02/2011 15:29:30    871844

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liathroidboy:

Your top of your game and yet you don't know the technical terms..... ahhhh right!!

Absolute spoofer have to say I quite enjoyed showing you up!!! HOOK LINE AND SINKER!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 21/02/2011 11:22:43    872331

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He goes into a business that is at a "crisis stage" and the solution is to take on board the qualitative views of management and the solution is to cut jobs on the "factory floor".

If the business is in trouble is it not more likely that the problem is at mangement level ?
Too many staff, staff doing wrong jobs, badly skilled staff, lack of investment, ineffecient production, ineffecient route to market, wrong market, wrong product, poor branding, wrong equipment, unutilised equipment, lack of working capital, problems with bad debt, lack of credit, bad pricing strategy, inability to satisfy key customers, expensive rent contract

Would all of the above not be mangements fault ?
Ballboys master touch is that he goes into a company asks the managment who are badly running the business to tell him who the unproductive staff are and his magic formula is tell that manager he nees to get rid of those unproductive staff.

"Lend me your watch and I'LL tell you the time" but only if you pay me €500 an hour

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 21/02/2011 12:01:15    872377

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"Lend me your watch and I'LL tell you the time" but only if you pay me €500 an hour

Thats the joys of consultancy, ah now 500 an hour is a bit much, i charge 350 myself i think thats a fair rate

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 21/02/2011 14:14:00    872550

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liathroidboy:

Monopoly money no doubt!!! Maybe if you charged the 500 your could afford the other halve of the helicopter!! Either that or cut the most inept imaginery staff you have unfortunately it's sounds like you'd be first for the chop!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 21/02/2011 15:22:52    872662

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Which one of the two Bobs in the film "Office Space" is liathroidboy? Do you like Michael Bolton Liathroidboy?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12370 - 21/02/2011 15:47:10    872697

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attack the man cause you know he is right this definately applies to this situation. i love the rash comments and generalisation you makes its actually funny in fairness, you would swaer ye actuallly knew me and my businesses with the comments. at the end of the day its just simple jealousy of my success

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 21/02/2011 18:42:22    872965

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Just had a few calls there, Steve Jobs, Bill gates, Larry page and Sergey Brin all looking to head hut me, unfortunately for them my imaginery business will put them all to the wire.

That's the way it works right?? this imaginery business is dead easy!! I'm going out in the morning to buy myself 2 and 1/2 imaginery Helicopters and sure while I'm at it think I'll buy 3/4 of a Lear jet!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 21/02/2011 19:48:04    873068

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Breffni39:

I don't know I think he'd be a cross between Milton, Lumbergh and the older bob.

Here's the two Bob's make up your own mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnxZl7mhsHQ&feature=related

Great film by the way!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 21/02/2011 19:57:29    873078

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Thats the joys of consultancy, ah now 500 an hour is a bit much, i charge 350 myself i think thats a fair rate

You must be good seen as you charge 4 or 5 times the average hourly rate!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 21/02/2011 20:15:20    873102

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http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0224/aerlingus.html

And people claiming that Aer Lingus are hard on their staff? They'll be taking a €32million hit rather than persuing the staff who benefited from the tax break.

Heard wind of this a few weeks back, seems there was a breakdown in communications between the Dept of the Taoiseach and Revenue. Aer Lingus were told one thing during talks through National Implementation Body, and Revenue disagreed.

black&white (Sligo) - Posts: 1628 - 24/02/2011 12:23:10    875299

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thats ok just lump those onto saving to be made out of staff- air lingus is already making them work more as the strike has shown- increases the flying hours to 1000 and your well on your way :)

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 24/02/2011 12:27:01    875306

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So the little man wins for once !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 24/02/2011 12:37:50    875330

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24/02/2011 12:37:50
Cavan_Slasher
County: Cavan
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875330 So the little man wins for once !!

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Thats the problem with unions - they think in the short term - I'm sure the unions in Waterford Crystal won manys a battle
There is only one winner here and its Ryanair - Aer lingus are paying their staff over a €100k a year plus the above
They pass this on to the consumer - Aer Lingus can't compete and in three years time Ryanair will have a 100% monoply and will charge what they like.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 24/02/2011 12:48:32    875345

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