Recently at my countys convention I was alarmed to hear that a motion was put forward that shinguards to be introduced at all age groups up to and including under 12's. I think it was recommended after but the next thing will be knee warmers for under 21's, elbow heaters for minors.. SURELY THE GAA IS NOT REVOLVING INTO A SO CALLED "NANCY" association..

gaamad1996 (Wexford) - Posts: 439 - 30/12/2010 13:30:12    838038

Well said i think the club who brought forward this terrible motion should spend more time on useful things rather than trying to make hurling into a farce. Players will be going out dressed like American Football players if some people had their way. it is bad enough making helmets compulsory but at least they help to prevent serious injury.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 30/12/2010 17:09:47    838137

Does it really matter, the GAA have banned all kids from playing u12 GAA games anyway.

onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 30/12/2010 17:20:35    838143

onlyhurling i suppose your right there. The go-games are ruining hurling and discouraging people from a young age to play the game. Also this idea of blitz games where even the worst team in a competition gets medals, fail to teach young people of 6 and 7 how to lose properly.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 30/12/2010 17:53:48    838161

30/12/2010 17:53:48
890202
County: Wexford
Posts: 28

But it gives you a wee happy feeling when you get a medal for coming last like :)

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 30/12/2010 21:45:20    838249

gaamad1996
County: Wexford
Posts: 376

welcome back

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 30/12/2010 21:52:23    838251

Orlaith
County: Derry
Posts: 3948

838249
30/12/2010 17:53:48
890202
County: Wexford
Posts: 28

But it gives you a wee happy feeling when you get a medal for coming last like :)

No it doesn't? Who wants a medal for being a failure?

Royal_Girl2k9 (Meath) - Posts: 2107 - 30/12/2010 21:52:27    838252

So now our children are failures at 6 or 7? I actually like the Go Games set up as it allows children to worry about developing skills as opposed to worrying about winning or getting beat. After all, they have 20-25 years to worry about winning or losing

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 31/12/2010 10:25:38    838269

Thanks dhorse i thought the time was right to ease back into HS. go games arent good at under 12 but my opinion of them has changed after here in Wexford a group of managers decided to arrange a championship....Model County Championship. Twice as much games now for all class and good for the boys

gaamad1996 (Wexford) - Posts: 439 - 31/12/2010 12:51:40    838295

jaysus it really is the slow news time of the year

b.mullins (Dublin) - Posts: 1413 - 31/12/2010 14:56:31    838347

omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2728

838269
So now our children are failures at 6 or 7? I actually like the Go Games set up as it allows children to worry about developing skills as opposed to worrying about winning or getting beat. After all, they have 20-25 years to worry about winning or losing


Don't worry I'm taking the wee wee

Royal_Girl2k9 (Meath) - Posts: 2107 - 31/12/2010 14:59:40    838348

890202
County: Wexford
Posts: 28

838161
onlyhurling i suppose your right there. The go-games are ruining hurling and discouraging people from a young age to play the game. Also this idea of blitz games where even the worst team in a competition gets medals, fail to teach young people of 6 and 7 how to lose properly.

Go games are ruining hurling are they? How do you know this? What evidence have you seen across the country that tell you this? What trends have you seen in hurling nationally to support this idea of yours?

Children are naturally competitive. In a blitz situation everyone gets a medal, however, there are winners and losers. The winners are recognised as such but the other competitors are recognised also.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13837 - 31/12/2010 15:03:18    838351

In the Go Games there has to be a line of cones across the field. Forwards and backs have to stay on their own side of the line. This is a great idea in ways as it shows children that they have to keep the positions. At the same time however it is the height of stupidity. An 8 year old hurler develops habits that will stay with him for the rest of his life. If a ball is say a metre over the line and he is closest to it, he is forced to stand still and wait for the ball to come to him instead of being allowed to do the logical thing and go for the ball.

dammon (Meath) - Posts: 1291 - 31/12/2010 15:04:23    838353

gaamad1996, what format is the 'model county championship', how does it work?

onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 31/12/2010 15:13:03    838362

omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2728

838269 So now our children are failures at 6 or 7? I actually like the Go Games set up as it allows children to worry about developing skills as opposed to worrying about winning or getting beat. After all, they have 20-25 years to worry about winning or losing

Omaghredhand, how will they develop GAA skills if they are playing soccer or rugby instead. Any suggestions on how to persude u12's to play or train for go games when they have the opportunity to play other competitive sports instead.

onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 31/12/2010 15:19:02    838367

To get back to the original point of this thread, I can't say I'm all against shin guards for up to U-12s, we're talking about kids here and no one wants to see children get hurt playing GAA

That doesn't have to lead to leg warmers, elbow pads and American football style shoulder pads for minors, U-21s & Seniors, the guys & gals are a lot bulkier, tougher and more well able to take a dig at that stage

And as for the earlier poster talking about compulsory helmets for all, the GAA was considering that to be brought in due to head injuries, sore jaws and the like over the years, although nothing terrible has happened in that sense in a long time, but I reckon Brendan Cummins saving a Cork penalty with his forehead in 2009 that busted him wide open was the straw that broke the camel's back on that one

I was against it myself at the time, because I thought it would interfere with the skill level & habits of players, but from what I've seen since, I was wrong to think that, great players are great players, helmet or not. I s'pose the only thing I would say is that from a spectator point of view, it's a tad more difficult to identify certain players when they're all wearing helmets

But that's not something that should take precedence over safety, overall, the helmets do more good than harm

Long Story Short, shinguards for the kids, helmets for the adults

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 31/12/2010 15:31:51    838377

b.mullins
County: Dublin
Posts: 311

838347 jaysus it really is the slow news time of the year

Slow is right

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 31/12/2010 15:46:41    838390

Mes Amis from being involved in under 8 and under 10 teams for the last 4 years i have seen first hand that the vast majority of players would much prefer to play proper hurling with proper hurling balls without having the restriction of having to stay within a certain area, not being allowed solo and must only play ground hurling. how does this help players develop if they are only allowed to play the ball on the ground for the vast majority of the games? No practise in the skill of catching the ball, rising the ball, striking the ball in the air, blocking, soloing etc. So now i ask how can that be good for hurling?

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 31/12/2010 16:13:57    838407

Orlaith
County: Derry
Posts: 3949

the installation of showers in dressing rooms has had a devestating effect on hurling

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 31/12/2010 17:55:54    838447

showers marked the onset of the unstoppable Nancyism


may God help all of us!

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 31/12/2010 19:16:54    838488