CC1 They did not have to object and in the past others did not for simple rules that are broke with unknown etc.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 22/12/2010 18:03:54    837172

Dell, on behalf of the all of Swanlinbar, apology accepted. Thank you. It takes the bigger man to admit his mistakes. Well done

Vegas_baby1 (Cavan) - Posts: 10 - 22/12/2010 19:38:58    837228

Definition of ACCUSATION
1: the act of accusing : the state or fact of being accused
2: a charge of wrongdoing

Dell, I would suggest that you have accused Swanlinbar of wrongdoing on most of your posts to this thread. Have you not suggested that they were wrong to object? That therefor is an accustaion

Definition of ACCUSE
transitive verb
1: to charge with a fault or offense : blame
2: to charge with an offense judicially or by a public process

To be a sore loser is frowned upon and considered a fault and you have charged Swanlinbar of this offence.

It would appear quite clear then, that you have accused Swanlinbar of being sore losers and accused them of a wrongdoing by objecting to the breaking of a rule. Now, maybe you should look up the definition of something before you try to lecture others

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 23/12/2010 12:25:33    837410

Vegas not my words as i have nothing to say sorry for as this is a message board and in entitled to my views . I see omagh man is another one to follow me bout thread to to thread great to see another admire. As he needs to look up views and accustations 2 different meanings to be fair and definition of the word is totally different on my word.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/12/2010 14:44:38    837506

Omaghredhand, nice work on providing the definition of Accusation and Accuse, however, unfortunately, it appears that the information has gone over Dell's head…hardly surprising really.

Dell, perhaps you should concentrate on the correct spelling of words first, before moving on to their actual meaning for the time being…we don't want that limited brain capacity over heating do we?

Also your growing paranoia is really concerning me. Nobody has said that you are not entitled to your views. As you rightly said this is a message board. The issue here is this: You are condoning rule breaking. Plain and simple. No if's, but's, maybe's, not a major rule, Swad are sore losers, blah, blah, blah…you believe that rule breaking should go unpunished….that's my summary. Again you are entitled to that view, but (thankfully) you do not make the rules.

You can keep spinning this any way you like, in fact please do, because your bizarre opinions are extremely entertaining, but the fact remains that this club knowingly broke the rules.

I'm still assuming that your earlier apology still counts, so in this season of good will, wishing you all the best during the Christmas break.

Vegas_baby1 (Cavan) - Posts: 10 - 23/12/2010 16:13:37    837548

Vegas Your the one along with the follow around poster there need to know the meaning of words and once again you think i said sorry look up as i would never would on this case . And i see you like others when losing a debate you start insulting me , you been a sore loser here .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/12/2010 16:23:25    837554

Vegas i get it now your trying to wind me up as well as inult me so am better ignoring you and your budidie , So i will debate with ayone tha cares to debate without insults , i will not be replying to you again ok..

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 23/12/2010 16:36:54    837564

I have a very clear sense of what is right and what is wrong. i was blessed with this gift.

So. There is a rule in place. this rule must have been passed at congress.
the rule is broken. therefore the penalty for breaking this rule must be implemented.


otherwise what is the point of the rule.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5522 - 23/12/2010 17:13:18    837572

swanlinbar won da objection so they are Ulster champions and corduff are disquailified.

dunlop (UK) - Posts: 14 - 12/01/2011 12:40:02    844622

well what you think of this,i agree if they broke the rules they should be punished,maybe a replay would be fairer !!!

shea (Kerry) - Posts: 409 - 12/01/2011 13:04:40    844648

This was posted as a new thread but as the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.

moomoo
Posts: 78
Kerry
12/01/2011
15:21

Swanlinbar win appeal

Swanlinbar win appeal
12 January 2011

Swanlinbar are the 2010 Ulster club junior football champions after winning last night's appeal to the Ulster Council. The Cavan club, who were defeated by Monaghan junior champions Corduff in last month's provincial decider at Kingspan Breffni Park, were awarded the title after being successful in their appeal against the legality of one of the opposition's players. The hearing found that a Corduff substitute ,who scored a decisive goal in the game, was Under 16 last season and under GAA rules adult teams are not permitted to field Under 16 players. As a result, the game was forfeited to Swad and they will now go on to represent Ulster in the semi-finals of the All-Ireland club JFC.

What do people think about this?

Its not ever really going to be the same thing if your just given a title is it?

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 12/01/2011 15:25:19    844818

It's good to see that those who decide to cheat are punished.

It's a pity it's not something that you can be assured the GAA will do all the time.

BallsMcQ (USA) - Posts: 941 - 12/01/2011 15:35:25    844831

where's my last post on this subject Admin

Mulligan Eamonn (None) - Posts: 896 - 12/01/2011 21:26:53    845200

Jesus I hope Swad are stuffed in the All Ireland series now, I can see both points of view that people are putting across : Corduff broke the rules and should be punished but I believe that despite that fact, if Swad couldn't handle a 16 year old then how do they expect to put up a good show in the All Ireland when representing Ulster? Personally, I'd be embarrassed to be a Swanlinbar player picking up my Ulster medal and telling the grandkids how exactly they won their Ulster Championship...

shootingboots (Down) - Posts: 11 - 12/01/2011 21:59:58    845261

I can say without a shadow of a doubt, no Swad player, supporter or club member would want to be awarded a trophy in this fashion. But what alternative did Swad have? And please don't say they should have just taken their beating, because that is stupidity of the highest order and I shouldn't have even dignified it by mentioning it. I'm all for a debate, but can we stop with the cave man talk!

That team played 24 games last season, winning 18 and losing 6. During that season they gained promotion to Division 2, won the Division 3 League final, the Junior Championship Final and as we all know reached the Ulster Club Final. They have had a fantastic season, unprecedented for this club and played brilliant football along the way. The one game that they truly did not perform anywhere near their best was in the Ulster Final. And every Swad person you meet will be the first to admit that Corduff were the hungrier team on the day and there were no hard feelings at the final whistle.

Yet despite Swad's poor performance that game was still far from decided with 15 minutes to go when there was only 1 or 2 points between the teams. Corduff obviously felt that they needed another option, albeit an illegal one, to secure the game and so they introduced this underage player. The rest is history. There are people on this forum who may or may not know the facts of this case and yet are insinuating that Swad should be ashamed of themselves….what a total and utter lazy argument. Although I agree with corduff123 that the majority of these people are probably either from Corduff or have a gripe against Swad.

Can any of the geniuses out there who are having a go at Swad offer me one viable alternative to this issue? And before any of you start, Swad offered to replay the game but the Ulster Council would not allow this. That cup and those medals will mean nothing to the Swad lads because the final will be forever tarnished because one team cheated.

It's absolutely pathetic to point the finger at Swad here. How many club players out there will ever get the opportunity to play in a provincial final??, Now most people can take a beating once it's fair, but this wasn't fair. And please stop with the drivel about how Swad should be embarrassed that a 16 year old scored a goal against them…what planet are ye from? I played senior football when I was 16 and I can name around 8-10 of the Swad panel who would have played at that age also and in some cases with the older lads, they played when they were 15!! There's a famous saying that if you're good enough, you're old enough. Swad would love to be able to field a very talented 15 year old in their ranks at present who would walk into the team, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED.

Best of luck to Swad in the All Ireland series. The preparations are far from ideal but given the huge effort that all the players gave throughout 2010, I've no doubt that they will all give it everything for this next game. Thank you for a fantastic year's football. You should all be very proud of your achievements

Vegas_baby1 (Cavan) - Posts: 10 - 13/01/2011 08:26:12    845265

good post 'vegas'

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1734 - 13/01/2011 10:08:03    845297

Brilliant Post, Vegas!

SS1 (Cavan) - Posts: 196 - 13/01/2011 11:02:52    845332

Imagine the batin Swad would have got if an under 14 player had of been playing, carnage!!
If am no big fan of Corduff but it's not as if the rule is applied to make the game fair, its there to protect the young players.
Anyway best of luck to Swad, i think any club would have done the same in the same position, except for my club, were classy:)

Mon1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 153 - 13/01/2011 12:54:16    845430

Mon1
County: Monaghan
Posts: 95


I'm Ron Burgandy..You stay Classy Mon1

laflour (Cavan) - Posts: 528 - 13/01/2011 13:15:23    845449

except for my club, we're classy:)

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Fixed ;)

Con Cavan (Cavan) - Posts: 894 - 13/01/2011 13:22:48    845453