Cavan's Swanlibar have objected to the result of last Sunday's AIB Ulster junior club football final on the grounds that opponents Corduff fielded an ineligible player.

Swad, who lost the Kingspan/Breffni Park decider to the Monaghan champions on a 0-8 to 2-7 scoreline, claim that Corduff fielded a player who was not eligible to play in adult championship football as per Rule 6.18 of the Official Guide.



They contend that Corduff substitute Padraic Keenan, who was came on during the second half and scored a vital goal, breaches the rule as he is still an under 16 player. A player must be 17 or over to play adult championship football.
If the objection succeeds, Corduff could be stripped of the title and the game awarded to Swanlinbar



I believe if a team is beaten in this way they should take there beating and it is a stupid rule because if a 16 year old is good enough to play adult football let him. So sore losers in this case objection to a young lad , come on now take the defeat on the chin.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 16/12/2010 10:48:06    833759

Ah they should let it go. If it was a suspended player or something like that, fair enough, but ya can't be just appealing for something like that.
Have they any connections to Louth people in the club?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 16/12/2010 11:29:53    833779

Frank Murphy was recently seen in the Cavan area.

Real Kerry Fan (None) - Posts: 2957 - 16/12/2010 11:46:31    833796

Rules are rules, where is the use in lying down after working incredibly hard throughout the year only to be beaten by your opponent cheating? Good luck to Swad, I hope they get justice.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 16/12/2010 11:47:46    833799

It is not a stupid rule Dell. No 16 year old should be allowed play adult football. Any team manager who would field a sixteen year old in an adult game is being reckless and irresponsible. Having said that I don't believe in winning titles at the table.
Jinxie you Meath mules just can't let it lie can you ? By the way for your information Louth didn't object.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6181 - 16/12/2010 11:51:49    833802

Maybe they shouldn't have lodged a complaint and instead asked Colm Cooper or Bernard Brogan to play for them. They're obviously ineligible, but sure that hardly matters does it?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12408 - 16/12/2010 11:53:06    833806

This was posted as a new thread but since the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.

PHSU15
Posts: 38
Monaghan
16/12/2010
11:38

swanlinbar objection

has anyone in swanlinbar gfc got any shame.

dragging a young player through the media because they could'nt beat corduff on the playing field.

are ye really that badly stuck to get your hands on another cup.

i sure the management and players accepted their defeat as they were beat fair and square on the day.

has all sense of decency and fairness gone out the window.

you could't hope to meet a nicer young lad than padraic keenan or a more dedicated footballer but your actions has devastated both him and his lifelong gaa family.

not alone are you dragging the name of your own club down but also the name of our great game.

shame,shame,shame

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 16/12/2010 11:53:30    833807

Swanlibar should just take their beating and get over it. How do they think they could represent Ulster after getting beat WELL in the ulster final. Corduff deserve their cup, whether or not Pauric Keenan is 16. But as far as I am aware he is 17

MuineachanAbu (Monaghan) - Posts: 660 - 16/12/2010 11:56:02    833809

These boys knew exactly what they where doing, they played this lad in the Ulster semi final and got away with it because no one from the club they beat knew in time to get an objection in and where warned by people in Monaghan not to play him in the final but they went ahead and put it him on in the final when the game was in the melting pot, why would swanlinbar not object ot it. If they where allowed get away with this then it brings the whole rules of the game into disripute. it was a provincial final after all, it just demeens the entire competition now.

Alonso (Cavan) - Posts: 41 - 16/12/2010 11:56:03    833810

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833807 This was posted as a new thread but since the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.

PHSU15
Posts: 38
Monaghan
16/12/2010
11:38

swanlinbar objection

has anyone in swanlinbar gfc got any shame.

dragging a young player through the media because they could'nt beat corduff on the playing field.

are ye really that badly stuck to get your hands on another cup.

i sure the management and players accepted their defeat as they were beat fair and square on the day.

has all sense of decency and fairness gone out the window.

you could't hope to meet a nicer young lad than padraic keenan or a more dedicated footballer but your actions has devastated both him and his lifelong gaa family.

not alone are you dragging the name of your own club down but also the name of our great game.

shame,shame,shame

Get down off your high horse, there is a squad of players at Swanlinbar, all nice lads and dedicated footballers and importantly ELIGIBLE

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12408 - 16/12/2010 12:03:05    833816

Rules are indeed rules, but surely a replay rather than awarding the title to Swalinbar would be the most sensible decision. They were beaten fairly comfortably afterall.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 16/12/2010 12:04:02    833817

I know the lad from playing against him at club level and at Schools level! This lad is an exceptionally good footballer, definitely a star in the making!
Why is there such a rule anyway, if he is good enough let him play! I was at the game, and Corduff were by far the better team, such was their dominance they hit 16 wides and still managed to win by 5! I think it's quite funny to hear that a team of ADULTS, are crying about an Under 16 coming on and changing the game in favour of his game!

Swanlinbar should be ashamed of themselves!

niterider (USA) - Posts: 32 - 16/12/2010 12:11:13    833824

jesus jinxie let it go its over no need for the remarks

meath1234 (Meath) - Posts: 203 - 16/12/2010 12:15:30    833831

Well ALSONO. If thats the case Swanilbar should have to play the semi finalists that corduff beat which i think was the Tyrone champions. AND BELIEVE ME THEY WOULD BEAT YOU'S

MuineachanAbu (Monaghan) - Posts: 660 - 16/12/2010 12:16:04    833832

Who is to blame here, the administrators and Team management from Corduff for breaking the rules and playing a lad who is u16 in the Ulster Junior final and semi final or Swanlinbar for abiding by the rules all through the competition. Swanlinbar are not responsible for dragging any good young player through the media, that was the responsibility of the Corduff Club and Team Management and they failed miserably.

Alonso (Cavan) - Posts: 41 - 16/12/2010 12:16:33    833833

PHSU15
Its not swanlinbar gfc that should feel shameful - its corduff - do you think ye are invicibale or something. the gaa rule book must not come into effect in corduff. the management and committee of corduff should have thought what affect this would have on this young boy and his family before they decided to play him - swanlinbar should not be blamed for this. at the ned of the day rules are there for a reason.

Missey (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4 - 16/12/2010 12:25:46    833845

All summer long the lot of us have been complaining about referees not applying the rules correctly, or applying their own version of them. We continually ask for consistency and fairness. Surely the example must be set from the top down.

I know nothing about the player or the teams involved, but if Corduff have broken a rule then they should be have to face the consequences of that. If the rule book states that they must forfeit the game then thats what happens. They would probably end up getting a replay on appeal anyway, afterall, thats the way the GAA works. Personally I would think the club officers (chairman, secretary etc) should face a suspension as they are aware the rules are being broken and encouraging it.

I know it looks like sour grapes from Swanlinbar, but they are within their rights to raise an objection. I would be more worried that if nothing was said, the Ulster Council would presumably have missed this breach in the rules and then where does it stop? I know of at least two similar cases in Tyrone over the last year

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 16/12/2010 12:29:48    833846

They should be able to take their beating !! I have no time for objections of this nature !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/12/2010 12:38:10    833851

The player is from the club and is therefore not ineligible. Yet another example of a ridiculous GAA rule that has been implemented recently. Swan should take their beatings, would be different if the player was ineligible legitimately (suspension, not registered etc). As for the person stating that a 16 year old shouldn't be playing senior, wise up. Most clubs have had 16 year olds playing seniors, and most clubs would not have as big a pick as others and would be forced to play their better 16 year olds.

geoff (Tyrone) - Posts: 377 - 16/12/2010 12:42:38    833855

Nobody likes objections after the match but how else were Swad to object to rule-breaking, stop playing as soon as he is brought on? Send in an objection before the match? What is the most appropriate way to lodge an objection of this kind?? Should they have someone with an iphone at matches with a load of objection letters and his thumb over the send button??

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12408 - 16/12/2010 12:48:03    833858