Seanie I agree standing by the killers of jerry McCabe did show loyalty. It showed that sinn fein are more loyal to the IRA than the irish state and it's citizens.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 01/12/2010 19:23:01    826069

to be honest derryman i put a thread up here a long time ago saying its about time we had a proper all ireland party and it was laughed at

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/12/2010 20:03:30    826106

Hipster in truth I did not see that thread. I certainly would have been contributing to it. I have said before that I am a shinner because I have no alternative. No other party presents me with an ethos and goal of a united Ireland. I would dearly love to sit down and compare two parties that give me a choice on how the right of Irish self determination might be advanced. I may well still decide that my vote goes to Snn Fein but at least it will be clearly for the right reasons. Having said that though I would not warm kindly to one of the established parties now deciding to organise in the 6 counties if I felt they were jumping on Sinn Feins bandwagon merely to gather a couple of extra seats in the Dail.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 20:19:51    826122

I am not a great reader of Papers and only glance at them over my good wifes shoulder as she is an avid reader of the press. On Sunday though I did perouse the newstand to see what sort of coverage Pearse Dohertys historic win had gained and was dissapointed but not surprised to find it to be almost zero and any coverage it did recieve was leaning towards the angle of the FF loss rather than Sinn Fein gain. Yes I would call that blatent discrimination.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 20:26:13    826127

By the way hipster how would I access that thread in the archives I would be interested to see the response

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 20:32:44    826133

Discrimination? You must not know what the term means... the country went bankrupt this week of course the papers will be giving all it's coverage to than instead of a by-election in Donegal . Discrimination...god help us

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 01/12/2010 20:41:23    826138

Why would the paper's up here spend any amount of time covering an election in another country? I didn't see anything in the paper's about the Canadian by-elections on Monday, is this discriminatory as well?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 01/12/2010 20:46:35    826142

i dont know how to look it up derry man but like you i would also love to see 2 or 3 all ireland parties as i said in that thread it would go a long way to getting us out of this mess if this country was united and we had proper politicians not the FF heads that have ran us into the ground , your right about the result in donegal it was a great win and after seen all the canditates on the front line pearse was the best by far , i think if sinn fein can hold together for the next 20 years without any major splits they will grow into a top 2 party but they have to remember the people who got them there .

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/12/2010 20:49:02    826146

bad monkey Sinn Feins win was directly related to the economy and should have been presented to the public particularly in light of the other obviously pressing headlines. Had Fne Gael win or even came close it would have been given the coverage. Yes it is discrimination by design.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 20:53:27    826149

Pomeroy I notice that you have no answer to my reply to your previous mischief making I wont bother to tell you that I was reading the papers in the newstand at Dublin airport where I met my daugfhter on a flight from New york. The rest of your post will be treated with he attention it deserves.

Hipster I am pleased to find that I am not the only poster who has clearly thought about the future of the country from a proper national mindset. You are right Sinn Fein do need to stay grounded. That is why they can not turn their back on the likes of Mc Auley Sheehy and Walsh The republican movement and Sinn fein are inextricably linked and if it remains peaceful the general electorate of the ROI will find their republican sympathies again.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 21:15:26    826170

now derryman i am not a sinn fein supporter but i am not anti sinn fein either and yes they have to stay grounded as you know yourself they have lost some high profile members in dublin , imagine what it would be like to have a few partys fighting for this island than fighting for what is best for them

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/12/2010 21:25:38    826178

Hipster all I ask is that enough people want a United Ireland. It is refreshing to see that someone can consider this without the usual baggage

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 21:36:09    826183

'Pomeroy I notice that you have no answer to my reply to your previous mischief making'

Apologies but I must have missed it, feel free to repeat it. So the paper's are discriminating against Sinn Fein is what you're saying? This victim complex you have have is laughable

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 01/12/2010 21:49:51    826196

feel free to read it pp

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 01/12/2010 21:53:23    826197

as i said derryman if sinn fein can hold together they will have a huge say in this island of ours

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 01/12/2010 21:54:54    826200

at the end of the day there is a lot of what-aboutery and wordsmithery going on here. At the end of the day though partionists, unionists and loyalists on this island are going to have to accept the fact that Sinn Fein are going to get stronger and stronger because yuppies and liberals, like many who post on these boards, failed to run the 26 correctly.

I for one welcome the day the rest of ye can like it or lump it.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 02/12/2010 08:43:01    826217

Havent read any of the posts on this thread... id just like to add...

WHO CARES????

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 02/12/2010 09:56:28    826246

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Seanie I agree standing by the killers of jerry McCabe did show loyalty. It showed that sinn fein are more loyal to the IRA than the irish state and it's citizens.

"Loyalty to the country always.Loyalty to the government when it deserves it". Mark Twain

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 02/12/2010 10:00:04    826249

Seanieboy you're comments about standing by friends who murdered Gardai are shameful. Get a grip on reality good lad.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 02/12/2010 10:27:41    826263

'Seanieboy you're comments about standing by friends who murdered Gardai are shameful. Get a grip on reality good lad.'

True, some of the comments on here by the Shinners would make you sick. It sums up the entire party, for them violence is always the answer

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 02/12/2010 11:39:21    826303