Htaem
County: Meath
Posts: 2134

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Pitty he didn't get up and apologise for 70+ years of intimidation and persecution.

That would be the job of a Fianna Fail or Fine Gael deputy.Pearse is a member of Sinn Fein.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 08/12/2010 20:28:59    829856

Regardless of party politics its great to see new blood in the Dail !! The likes of Lowry and Healy-Rae do disservice to politics !! Only there for themselves !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 08/12/2010 20:32:10    829861

getting sinn fein to admit they have done wrong in terms of terrorism, robberies, rackets, protection money, drug dealing, murders the list is endless and these people still think that all of this is perfectly ok- says it all really no wonder the government were laughing at sinn fein yesterday

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 08/12/2010 21:11:18    829898

Yes liathroidboy its akin to getting Fianna Fail to admit their part in the economic disaster , banking scandal, planning corruption etc etc etc !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 08/12/2010 21:19:19    829907

This government has been laughing at everybody for a long long time.It was great to see a TD finally have some nerve and give them a good dressing down for all to see.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 09/12/2010 09:35:26    829966

Lads while I have said that Pearse Doherty is a very capable politician, Gilmore has been dressing them down the same way for a couple of years now, why are people trying to say that Pearse is the only one to be making bold statements?

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 09/12/2010 10:33:43    830002

In all political spheres there are on occassions a personality that comes to the fore and grasps the imagination of the country. Some of them are only a flash in the pan others like Bill Clinton Tony Blair and Paul Keating go on to do great and not so great things time will tell whether Pearse Doherty is a flash in the pan or not.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 09/12/2010 11:09:38    830024

pearse doherty in the smae sentence as tony blair and bill clinton- thats the best laugh i have had in a while, you have to admire sinn fein so devoid of reality that their financve spokeperson cant even add as he proved on vincent brown

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 09/12/2010 11:20:47    830030

There is another young S.F. councillor down around Navan called Peadar Toibin who can fairly talk and make a lot of sense. I heard him on L.M.F.M. this morning talking on the Navan Hospital issue. Great speaker !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 09/12/2010 11:24:09    830033

liathroidboy
County: Mayo
Posts: 839

830030 pearse doherty in the smae sentence as tony blair and bill clinton- thats the best laugh i have had in a while, you have to admire sinn fein so devoid of reality that their financve spokeperson cant even add as he proved on vincent brown

I dont get TV3 so cannot comment on this.
I chose the 3 personalities because at one time it would have been scoffed at and indeed was if, Bill Clinton was namd with J F Kennedy, Tony Blair with Clement Atlee and Paul Keating with Jim Curtain. But I suppose you would not know the Latter. The whole idea was to present that thought " Are we looking at someone with a great future or are we Looking at a flash in the pan." But you in your haste to bring ridicule on all things Sinn Fein failed to understand the thought behind the Post. Only to be expected!

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 09/12/2010 11:51:45    830058

ConnollyDub

Why dont you just give an opinion on his speech rtaher than spout the uaual stuff. Twas a great speech wouldnt you agree??????

Basically your asking did I even watch his speech and the honest answer is no because I'd rather watch a group of geriatric snails doing the 10,000 metres than watch a budget special.


seanie_boy

That would be the job of a Fianna Fail or Fine Gael deputy.Pearse is a member of Sinn Fein.

Don't be too proud of yourself there seanie, I have no connection/affection or otherwise for either of those two parties or any particular political party for that matter. You see I haven't been poisoned by my parents into believing any single party does nothing but preach gospel and the rest are dirt.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 09/12/2010 11:57:12    830059

my point is would you hand doherty the cehque book for the country- would there be a country left after 6 months?

liathroidboy (Mayo) - Posts: 4921 - 09/12/2010 11:59:21    830060

More telling question Liathroid boy " is there funds behind the cheque book"? The answer is NO! An d the second question then would be "Who had the cheque book last?
Third question then would be " What do we do now"? Well that is for the voters to decide of which you and and I are only 2. We will see wont we.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 09/12/2010 12:13:02    830074

Was wondering what Dohertys back is to get such an important role as Spokesperson for Finance? I assume he must have alot of experience in running a business or accountancy

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 09/12/2010 13:34:16    830147

Does he belong to the same party which cut social welfare payments in NI?

lochgarmanabu (Wexford) - Posts: 1022 - 09/12/2010 13:54:54    830159

Bad Boy I think you are being mischievous here. When asked the same question on Frontline Doherty's reply was that "if this was the benchmark then it implies that only the likes of Michael Fingleton could be relied upon to deal with the accounts of the nation." I am sure that everyone in the Dept of Finance has to have a financial background or education and I'm sure the previous Regulator had to have likewise. Now look where those financial backgrounds have led us to. More times you need to have a basic awareness and a streetwise attitude to such transactions that have taken place over the last few years and I am charging that none of the Irish "team" had any of those qualities judging by the results that emanated from them. Both he and Joan Burton were on Prime Time last night. Joan Burton with many, many years of Dail debates on Finance and with an accountancy background against a guy with only two weeks experience in the Dail and with no accountancy degree discussing the state of financial affairs of the country. There should be no contest here but after the debate I would have far more confidence in Doherty dealing with our creditors and doing a better deal for the country than I would have with Burton. In fact most of our established politicians seem to be entirely spooked by this whole IMF and ECB issue. Unless there are huge skeletons in the wardrobes that we public are unaware of we should never be in this state when negotiating. By the way just on an information point, Doherty, as far as I am aware has a degree in Civil Engineering.

Connolly (Dublin) - Posts: 138 - 09/12/2010 15:44:00    830254

Connolly
County: Dublin
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Bad Boy I think you are being mischievous here. When asked the same question on Frontline Doherty's reply was that "if this was the benchmark then it implies that only the likes of Michael Fingleton could be relied upon to deal with the accounts of the nation." I am sure that everyone in the Dept of Finance has to have a financial background or education and I'm sure the previous Regulator had to have likewise. Now look where those financial backgrounds have led us to. More times you need to have a basic awareness and a streetwise attitude to such transactions that have taken place over the last few years and I am charging that none of the Irish "team" had any of those qualities judging by the results that emanated from them. Both he and Joan Burton were on Prime Time last night. Joan Burton with many, many years of Dail debates on Finance and with an accountancy background against a guy with only two weeks experience in the Dail and with no accountancy degree discussing the state of financial affairs of the country. There should be no contest here but after the debate I would have far more confidence in Doherty dealing with our creditors and doing a better deal for the country than I would have with Burton. In fact most of our established politicians seem to be entirely spooked by this whole IMF and ECB issue. Unless there are huge skeletons in the wardrobes that we public are unaware of we should never be in this state when negotiating. By the way just on an information point, Doherty, as far as I am aware has a degree in Civil Engineering.



Nearly as culpable in the mess as Bankers in my opinion are the Civil Engineers who were the lackeys of the developers. Was he involved in any developments? I must say though Civil Engineers are highly intelligent people who's skills are easily transferable into other sectors such as finance etc. They have great numerical ability.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 09/12/2010 16:05:11    830286

Third question then would be " What do we do now"? Well that is for the voters to decide of which you and and I are only 2. We will see wont we

derryman with respect I dont think the particular poster you were conversing with has reached the voting age yet.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 09/12/2010 16:29:07    830304

Htaem
County: Meath
Posts: 2151

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ConnollyDub

Why dont you just give an opinion on his speech rtaher than spout the uaual stuff. Twas a great speech wouldnt you agree??????

Basically your asking did I even watch his speech and the honest answer is no because I'd rather watch a group of geriatric snails doing the 10,000 metres than watch a budget special.


seanie_boy

That would be the job of a Fianna Fail or Fine Gael deputy.Pearse is a member of Sinn Fein.

Don't be too proud of yourself there seanie, I have no connection/affection or otherwise for either of those two parties or any particular political party for that matter. You see I haven't been poisoned by my parents into believing any single party does nothing but preach gospel and the rest are dirt.

So your a part of the don't vote but complain most crowd.Not much to be proud of there either.As to your other snide remark,let me just say that my parents were not very politically minded people for the most part.They were nationalist/republican and I believe they voted different parties at different times,usually according to events of the time or if they had a preferred candidate.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 10/12/2010 08:47:49    830587

very good ppoint Seanie I am not at all sure who my Father voted for in any election and I dont ever recall my Mother ever voting at any time. Politics were never discussed in our house. I think my parents were too busy tring to feed and clothe a large family and keeping them out of trouble which I think they managed.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 10/12/2010 10:09:26    830619