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Poppy Fascism !

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Well done to the Channel 4 News presenter Jon Snow who has condemned what he called 'Poppy Fascism' in Britain. He said he was sick of the right wing media, armchair generals and Little Englanders who insist that everyone MUST wear a poppy at all times weeks before Remembrance Sunday. The poppy has of course been politicised in the North by Unionist bigots and Loyalist paramilitary elements who mostly wear the poppy as an antagonistic provocative symbol. There seems to be a contest every year within Unionism to see who can wear the biggest poppy at the earliest time. There is nothing wrong with commemmorating the War dead but when people abuse this then that takes away the original meaning.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 07/11/2010 13:37:10    811182

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wonder will the BBCni and UTV presenters who have been wearing poppies for weeks wear the lilly next easter ? i suppose some dead are more important than others

b.mullins (Dublin) - Posts: 1413 - 07/11/2010 14:25:35    811207

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b.mullins
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811207 wonder will the BBCni and UTV presenters who have been wearing poppies for weeks wear the lilly next easter ? i suppose some dead are more important than others


There is a great resistance to the white poppy because of that reason

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 07/11/2010 15:12:26    811225

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he was just right! typical english think they can do whatever they want!

hitch06 (Down) - Posts: 24 - 07/11/2010 16:15:58    811271

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I'd never wear one

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 07/11/2010 17:47:40    811333

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Sad to see so many Irish people wearing poppies on tv.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 07/11/2010 17:53:56    811342

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'I'd never wear one'

Why?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 07/11/2010 18:05:35    811359

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Cuz im allergic to flowers

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 07/11/2010 18:16:52    811372

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If you have to ask Pomeroy you'll never know!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 07/11/2010 18:23:59    811380

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If people want to wear a poppy let them. Theys should be free to do so, but nobody should be forced to wear one or looked down on for choosing not to.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 07/11/2010 18:24:41    811381

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It's a tricky one. What Britain did in World War 1 and World War 2 was brave and it's worth commemorating the men and women, many of them Irish, who gave their lives in those wars. However I think most people would find it hard to show any sympathy for a colonial force with a terrible record in many parts of the world including this island, that even today are involved in wars in the middle east which they failed to fully justify.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 07/11/2010 18:26:10    811384

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roundball - well said

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11689 - 07/11/2010 20:13:54    811524

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spot-on roundball

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1558 - 07/11/2010 21:15:11    811598

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The poppy is undoubtedly seen as a british remembrance symbol.I have no problem with anybody wearing it for that reason.We would do well to remember that there are many Irish men in the catalogues of the british war dead and therefore it commemorates their sacrifice also.Granted it probably is used by the unionist/loyalist community as an advertisement of their britishness,and similarly republicans wear the Easter Lily to commemorate our dead and our sense of Irish Republicanism.We will reach a day when its not seen as being contentious to wear such symbols.Alex Maskey of Sinn Fein laid a wreath in memory of British war dead a few years back in a huge gesture of inclusiveness and respect for those of the pro-british tradition,and of course for the many Irish men who died also.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 07/11/2010 21:24:57    811611

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seanie_boy. tyrone .
very true as i have said in a similiar thread about this issue . well said

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 07/11/2010 21:32:57    811620

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Orlaith
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811333 I'd never wear one

If am honest i would never other.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 07/11/2010 21:36:08    811624

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Do you have no respect for those brave Irishmen who died in the two World Wars Dell?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 07/11/2010 21:40:50    811632

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I noticed eddie Jordan wasnt wearing one on the BBC coverage of the Grand Prix today.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 07/11/2010 21:50:10    811646

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PomeroyPlunkett
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811632 Do you have no respect for those brave Irishmen who died in the two World Wars Dell?

What you waffling bout now .................?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 07/11/2010 21:55:36    811659

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Fairly simple question. I presume because you are against wearing one you have no respect for the Irishmen who died in the two World Wars given that's what the poppy is in remembrance of

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 07/11/2010 21:59:34    811664

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