Johnny I can read especially when the writing is large and I have my spectacles on. Where do you say that you also condemn the s**m of the earth that aid in the prosecuting of illegal wars, There is no difference only in the perspective that it is held in. As i have always said terrorism like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No one is innocent no one has a monoply on right. And as voters we vote for the party that is best situated to deliver our hopes and aspirations. As Sinn Fein are the only party that is attempting to deliver a united Ireland then I will vote for them. As they are the only Party who do not support the slash and burn policies that all the main parties are advocating then I suggest that any one who really cares about the less priviliged in our society amd for the future of our youth should also vote for them and send a message to the eventual new government as to where we wish to proceed as a nation.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 05/11/2010 12:28:03    810181

Derryman of course i condemn what goes on at Shannon airport but my last vote and my next one will be independent again so what is your point? Nowhere did i state what party i voted for so what is your point? Do you condemn what Sinn Fein don't by the way?

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 05/11/2010 12:36:09    810188

Derryman of course i condemn what goes on at Shannon airport but my last vote and my next one will be independent again so what is your point? Nowhere did i state what party i voted for so what is your point? Do you condemn what Sinn Fein don't by the way?

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 05/11/2010 12:39:06    810190

I condemn all violence. But I especially condemn the circumstances imposed upon mankind that leads them to the point where violence is the only tool left to them. I particularly condemn the blind people who continue to vote and give mandates to governments that perpetuate the notion that war will deliver peace. Why is democracy only a good thing when it delivers the end result that suits the nation with the biggest army.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 05/11/2010 12:43:23    810197

Johnny by the way may I suggest that prior to voting for the independent candidate of your choice be sure to ask him to firstly condemn the prosecution of an illegal war through our airports at each and every media interview regardless of what the topic of that interview might be.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 05/11/2010 13:00:18    810216

Derryman zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 05/11/2010 14:43:24    810296

Johnny what is wrong son? Have you now found your hypocrisy to be exposed and the free shots you felt you might take at the Oldest political party in this country have missed the mark and you are now limping off to recover from self inflicted wounds to the foot

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 05/11/2010 14:55:38    810313

Well done peasre doherty. A very strong candidate indeed. Just have a look at this link. Would make the hair stand up on the back of your neck regardless of what party you support. www.youtube.com/user/pearsedoc

Really takes the minister to the cleaners.

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 05/11/2010 15:30:38    810330

Yes Derrymen you have got me.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 05/11/2010 15:44:11    810337

Sinn Fein will never have any sort of power down South, most people oppose the innocent slaughter of thousands of people based on their religion. Jonny it's your democratic right to vote for whoever you want and don't let the Shinners on here get to you, they can be a nasty bunch if you don't subscribe to their outdated and offensive views

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 05/11/2010 15:57:03    810353

Some speech alright Connollyub but of course Sinn Fein don't know what they are talking about.
Look at this thread that I started a few weeks back.
Had people listened to Sinn Fein years ago then we wouldn't have gotten into the mess we're in now.
People say SF haven't a clue but they have been proven right several times, people shoot down their ideas simply because they come from Sinn Fein without ever examining them to see if they have merit and most of them do.

http://www.hoganstand.com/Forum/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=57075

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 05/11/2010 16:04:48    810363

Sinn fein came up with all good ideas but poeple do not listen are regretting it now for sure and trust me they will get stronger in the south ,

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 05/11/2010 16:41:40    810390

Good point Doc. Indeed the Governmnet's own think tank the ESRI is saying basically the same thing as Shinners! Reason they are ridiculed is because the media owners have a vested interest in the policies being pursued by FF/FG/Lab.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 05/11/2010 16:45:03    810392

I have actually seen them proposals before Dr. Shepard but as you say people are too blinded with hatred of Sinn Fein. I think people are too stubborn aswell to admit that proposals like them ones you posted up are in anyway good, which they clearly are.

Anyway people just have to move on. The war is over 15 years now folks

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 05/11/2010 17:02:49    810408

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 13438

810390
Sinn fein came up with all good ideas but poeple do not listen are regretting it now for sure and trust me they will get stronger in the south ,


As much as I hope you are right it is unlikely as the media continue to ridicule their ideas, there are still a large proportion of people who allow the media to decide what makes sense and what doesn't as regards policies by political parties.
Although quite a few posters here and on political forums who don't like Sinn Fein are continually referring to the troubles when trying to put down SF rather than ridicule their proposals which they have done in the not so distant past.
I see this as an encouraging sign that these people now know that Sinn Fein are talking sense.
I take this as an encouraging sign.
It shows that thes

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 05/11/2010 17:11:19    810414

Dunno what happened the end of my last post.
It should have read like this:

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 13438

810390
Sinn fein came up with all good ideas but poeple do not listen are regretting it now for sure and trust me they will get stronger in the south ,


As much as I hope you are right it is unlikely as the media continue to ridicule their ideas, there are still a large proportion of people who allow the media to decide what makes sense and what doesn't as regards policies by political parties.
Although quite a few posters here and on political forums who don't like Sinn Fein are continually referring to the troubles when trying to put down SF rather than ridicule their proposals which they have done in the not so distant past.
I see this as an encouraging sign that these people now know that Sinn Fein are talking sense.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 05/11/2010 17:20:25    810426

Dr.Shephard Well one poster you should ignore is PP because he knows nothing bout the troubles i would say he is 14 at least but acts like a four year old furthermore he said he was from a place where clearly he was not . Now sinn fein are a very good party done alot for our village not like the poeple that where in before them give us nothing , and i hope poeple get out and start supporting the poeples party , alot starting to get it now .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 05/11/2010 17:22:56    810429

Sinn Fein have always been strong on local issues Dell and this is acknowledged even by those who don't support the party.
To progress they now need to be as strong on the National issues.
Now I know that they have come up with several good proposals which would have helped the country in the past and also proposals which would help the country now, however due to their ideas being constantly ridiculed people (who allow the media to form their opinions or refuse to acknowledge good ideas just because they come from SF) aren't voting for SF in big numbers so therefore SF are not in any sort of position to get their proposals implemented.
This is to the detrement of the country as they are the only party putting forward viable alternatives to the drastic cuts we are facing.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 05/11/2010 17:43:52    810446

Sinn Fein: the party full of half wits for half wits. For a Sinn Fein supporter to say they come up with the best policies backs up my first point 100%.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 05/11/2010 17:57:39    810463

Dell if I gave a monkey a computer it would make more interesting points than you. With less spelling mistakes as well no doubt

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 05/11/2010 18:22:07    810484