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Louth & Martin Sludden - time to move on ?

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What the episode did prove is that there will never ever be a replay in the future in GAA, regardless of what happens.
The ref is right even if hes wrong & the Gaa stood by their man.
Sportsmanship is officially dead in sport, not just the GAA. Its win at all costs nowadys & so be it, lets all accept that.
Close the book.

sam57 (Louth) - Posts: 1502 - 15/11/2010 20:01:05    817132

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agreed lets close the book.

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 15/11/2010 20:32:51    817161

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Sam,

Something has to be put in place to prevent a similar incident occurring again !! The G.A.A. has the responsibility !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 15/11/2010 20:34:31    817163

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What part of close the book do you not understand?! lol

BettystownRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 3353 - 15/11/2010 21:52:52    817268

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the most enduring image of the year was the knock on by big shero to win the Leinster Title


move on is easy to say

potnorwindow (Cavan) - Posts: 363 - 16/11/2010 10:32:20    817332

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Yes indeed !! Move on until the next time something bad happens !! Bury your heads in the sand lads !! If this happened in any other sport remedies would immediately have been put in place but sure its o.k. as we are just the G.A.A. and sure what would our lads know or care about !!

"Fail to Prepare -- Prepare to Fail"

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/11/2010 11:41:01    817376

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There would be remedies? No there wouldn't - just look at Thierry Henry last November, there was no remedy to counteract that and there still isn't today. That could happen again tomorrow and we'd be no better off

Life can be unfair, sport can be cruel, you just have to live with it and that's just the way it is

Like you Cavan slasher, I wish it wasn't but it is

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 16/11/2010 13:01:50    817464

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Nothing can be put in place to prevent this crude and horendous act from occuring again simply because no other player has the skill and percision to put the ball over the line like Joe did, so for that I say move on lads

Beautiful.Meath (Meath) - Posts: 537 - 16/11/2010 13:20:10    817473

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Who's Martin Sludden?
Is he that guy with the 'tache, ya know from x factor?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 16/11/2010 14:40:42    817553

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gigoer,

I agree that it is time to move on but nothing has been fixed !! However i cannot see this type of thing happening to Kerry the way it did to Louth !! Can you ?

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/11/2010 16:52:16    817693

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Cavan_Slasher
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817693 gigoer,

I agree that it is time to move on but nothing has been fixed !! However i cannot see this type of thing happening to Kerry the way it did to Louth !! Can you ?


Cavan Slasher, that is at absolute best, speculation.

All teams have been victims of poor refereeing decisions at some time or another, it's only because this one was so outrageously blatant and high profile that people like yourself think it's time for change. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, I respect your opinion either way

If there was some in-between solution, I would not be entirely opposed to using video technology if the referee is unsure, much as they use in Rugby, to ascertain for example if a goal was a legitamite goal, or whether it was a square ball or not, or if a ball went wide or over the bar. These types of incidents do not occur in huge numbers in each individual game, it would not be disasterous to the running of the game. Let's not forget that the majority of results run off fair & square without incident.

But if you're suggesting this one Louth/Meath incident should lead to a ruling where the GAA suddenly has the power to invalidate results everytime a referee gets a decision wrong, I could not be more vehemently opposed.

That would cause absolute chaos for both sports, you would have complaints to the CCCC every game for an infraction that occurred in the 7th minute, 15th minute, 52nd minute and so on (Would Joe Sheridan's 'goal' have caused that much chaos if it had occurred in the 10th minute instead of the 74th?) The issue of replaying games would become political witch-hunts, the subject of bureaucratic BS on the Sunday Game and a constant bad taste

And none of that is welcome in the pride & passion we all show in shouting for our colours playing our national sports....

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 16/11/2010 18:07:30    817783

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Cavan_Slasher
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816957 Dell,

So we leave things as they are and make no plans to prevent something similar happening in the future !! We us the old "Ostrich" method and say "sure that will never happen again" and move on


It will not happen as umpires are getting more power.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 16/11/2010 18:18:30    817789

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gigoer,

I agree with you buy why not give the umpires and linesmen more authority which would help !! Also i remember games being replayed because of an umpire mistake in awarding a wide as a point but this was down to the County Board of that particular county. Now would it be out of the question to have the G.A.A. make this decision instead of the County Board ?

P.S. you will notice that i never mentioned the name of the referee in any of my posts, just the fact that the incident happened and was unfair !!!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/11/2010 18:24:15    817799

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Cavan slasher, I sincerely hope you & I will one day be in Quinns outside Croke Park after the big game for several pints & introverted GAA discussion! (Mind you, as Cavan & Wexford supporters, that's not too likely to happen!)

I agree that umpires should have more power to influence these decisions that go drastically wrong. That should take place before the video technology that I supported in my last post. I hear what you're saying about County boards offering replays as they have done in the past, the Offaly v Clare hurlers with the early whistle fiasco in the 90s to name one example.

But that can't be left to the GAA to decide, if it was, everyone would look to them to stage such things on every dodgy decision, for which reasons that I've explained in my last post would do irreperable damage, in my opinion.

Anyhoo, looking forward to revenge in the league when Wexford meet Cavan in Wexford Park, little did I know when I was in Breffni in March this year, Cavan's defeat of Wexford in Breffni would cost us so dearly when we came so close to contesting the Division 3 final....

Good luck to both of us

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 16/11/2010 20:55:41    818034

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Yes indeed. I hope we meet in the Div 3 Final and we will have a few pints !! I'll even buy them ha ha !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/11/2010 21:02:43    818045

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