hill16no1man, i understand his point but it is complete rubbish to suggest that a high percentage of off 100 inter county players would probably be playing soccer at the top level and getting paid big money now. Let's take the high percentage as being 80 for example and "the top level" as being the Premier League of 20. So BB thinks each Premier League club would have an average of 4 inter county players!

Someone ring Trap asap. :-). BB is dreaming.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 31/10/2010 14:09:43    806596

africangael your still not getting it he means if they gre up playing soccer like tp soccer players did that they are ever bit as talented and fit and skillfull as the soccer guys are that they would have made it in that game if it were bred into them as kids like gaa was.you dont seem to get also that people prefer gaelic to soccer like he does why automaticaly do u think because sum1 is skillfull it means they have to play soccer i say this bcoz u mention getting trapattoni on to them if i had chocie of playing a a rooney or bernard brogan positions i would choose brogan as i would choose dublin over any soccer team.i dont get your fascination with soccer anyway i always found soccer to be an easier game to play then gaelic or hurling you dont need to learn as many skills as in gaelic or hurling its only big because of the media and cum on its quite boring to watch for 90mins there is nowere near as much happening in a soccer match as a gaa match and they are complete pussys when it comes to the physical elemant

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/10/2010 15:08:50    806623

Oh yea soccer is very boring, I suppose that's the reason it's the most popular game in the world! You need to understand soccer to enjoy it and not just watch it for the goals. Gaelic football has turned into a game of "pulling and dragging" (Not much skill in that). Of course Bernard Brogan is a great forward, as a matter of fact this time last year I wrote on this forum that I thought pound for pound he was the best in the country and I think he went on to prove that in both the League and the Championship even thought most people disagreed with my assessment of him at the time.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 31/10/2010 16:53:11    806677

There would be plenty of Premier League players who could play GF. Plenty of them manage to hoof the ball over the bar consistently on a weekly basis! Soccer is deadly dull now Africangael. Look at all the PL sides who are applauded for working hard and chiselling out 0-0 draws. Rangers made the UEFA Cup Final a couple of years ago by winning most rounds on away goals, every round playing dull, negative soccer and relying on defence. Barcelona are the exception, but most sides revert to negative tactics so as to avoid defeat.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 31/10/2010 18:05:02    806719

lads your worse for debating with him. his one lined supposed "factual comments" are there to wind you up, nothing more. id actually be surprised if admin wernt using his user name just to try spice things up...the liam brady comment says enough. bernie obviously has a point, he is simply saying that he believes his levels of skill and fitness are as good as an english born premiership player. i tend to agree with him, especially in the last decade or so i think its gone to another level. bernie isnt presupposing that there is anything special about GAA players, one would have to feel if any potential english born premier league soccer player was born in ireland they could easily be a top level GAA player. i suppose the crux of his point is that he feels that there is little difference between him and the likes of rooney etc in terms of skills and fitness bar the 250,000 quid a week pay difference. either, or, 250,000 or not im glad we have bernie and not rooney.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1663 - 31/10/2010 18:31:10    806747

Tongo, you can't really compare Rangers defensive game plan to a Gaelic football match but it's perfectly understandable Rangers and others would do that as they know they will get hammered otherwise when they come up against better opposition in Europe.

What isn't understandable is why teams like Dublin started trying to play a blanket defence. That makes a mockery of Gaelic football and coined the term "Puke Football" which it is.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 31/10/2010 19:50:26    806829

GAA people are narrow minded about football or soccer as you call it..if you knew how hard soccer players worked or realised how talented they actually are youd respect them.Its not they're fault theyre getting 100,000 a week?Gaelic games are superb games with excellent people involved in them.But Football is the exact same you just have to expect the whole package that comes with it because of its globalisation and popularity.

proevo (Meath) - Posts: 296 - 31/10/2010 21:13:22    806898

I think you'll find Africangael that there was some excellent GF played this summer and many have deemed it to be the best Champo for some time. The likes of Kildare, Down and, on occasions, Dublin played some very entertaining GF. And there were some fantastic matches in the Hurling champo. Afterall, BB did say GAA was better, not just GF. Mind you, I don't think it matters what anyone says, all you're interested in is slagging off Gaelic games, so maybe it is time to listen to seany16 and move on!

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 01/11/2010 08:13:28    806926

Soccer is all money & haircuts to me, I only watch it when the national team are playing which is about your origin & pride, similarly that's why I follow the GAA religiously. I'm not hammering soccer, people are free to follow sports for whatever reason they wish but I think it can be summed up in 1 simple sentence:

SOCCER IS ABOUT WHO YOU LIKE, GAA IS ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE FROM

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 01/11/2010 12:41:51    807056

AfricanGael
County: UK
Posts: 131

I wonder who this chap is...? 131 posts yet there's something very familiar about him...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 01/11/2010 13:10:41    807074

WHY GAA IS BETTER THAN SOCCER!!!


1) The GAA player who played in front of 80,000 at the weekend will be teaching your children, selling you meat or fixing your drains on Monday morning. The soccer player who plays in front of 80,000 will be moaning about playing too many games and will be trying to sell you his personalised brand of leisure wear

2) GAA nicknames are better (The Bull, The Bomber, etc.) Soccer players just add a Y to their surnames

3) Dublin vs Meath is a real derby. What does Utd. Vs City mean to Berbatov or Robinho

4) How many soccer players does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Answer: Eleven. One to stick it in and ten to surround and kiss him after he does it

5) Soccer players go to the papers after a game. GAA players go to the pub

6) John Terry would run a mile if he came up against Francie Bellew

7) GAA teams are numbered 1-15. A soccer team reads like the lottery results

8) All soccer players wear shin pads. Some hurlers wore helmets (in days gone by)

9) Television runs soccer. Schoolteachers run the GAA

10) No segregation at GAA games

11) No soccer team has a nickname quite as lovely as the Fighting Cocks of Carlow

12) Bubble perms never made it to Croke Park

13) A scoreless draw in the GAA would be quite a novelty

14) The GAA may not appreciate its women as much as it should but at least we all know who Cora Stanunton is. The most famous woman in soccer is Posh Spice

15) Under age players get to be part of the biggest days in hurling and football at half-time in the All-Ireland.

16) Micheal O'Murchearaigh.

17) If a GAA player ever jumped at a spectator like Eric Cantona did the rest of his team would join in. So would the rest of the crowd.

18) Vinnie Jones grabbed Gascoigne's testicles. Paudie O'Se decked Joe McNally during the National Anthem. McNally learnt his lesson. Gascoigne just got worse.

19) The GAA season always leaves you wanting more. The soccer season leaves soccer people demanding less. "Fewer games please"

20) Old soccer players get testimonials, Old GAA players just slip down to junior.

21) Rural villages = A Church, A Post-office, a Pub and a GAA pitch.

22) Pints after the match with the lad you knocked seven lumps of ***** out of in the game.

23) Croke park on a Summer's Day.

24) Roman Abramovich can buy the League. You can't buy Sam!!!

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 01/11/2010 14:37:48    807161

24) Roman Abramovich can buy the League. You can't buy Sam!!!

Love it!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 01/11/2010 15:59:05    807239

you got no 6 slightly wrong francie Lay down against cavan once and had to be revieved after one of our midfielders took a swing at him and missed

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 01/11/2010 17:26:08    807342

having not watched a soccer game for about 3 years i watched the world cup. it was the biggest pile of rubbish ever bunch of over paid sissys fallin all over the place not 1 good game in the whole thing. Sorry i did enjoy england gettin beat. gaelic football is a far better game more skills faster pace and played with pride u just coulnt beat it.

bigstone (Down) - Posts: 74 - 02/11/2010 11:38:49    807739

africangael soccer is the most popular sport for 3 reasons. no1 the most important MONEY it gets the biggest wages so people want to earn the wages do u realy think wayne rooney or stephen ireland would stick at playing soccer if they were not getting paid? no2 its played world wide because the brits invaded most of the countrys and forced them to speak english and play there games rugby soccer and cricket. no3 the media,the media dictate what people watch just look at the x factor for godsake its not even irish and they get full media coverage here and its promoted off the hilt and evry1 then watches it its simply the same as soccer english soccer takes up at least 10 pages in our papers and gaa and other sports get 1 or 2 pages so people generally read or view more of soccer and tend to think its better if gaa was taking up that amount of pages it would change peoples mind like sheep,just look at rugby it got no coverage in ireland until the last few years now bcoz the natoinal and club teams got better it gets huge publicity and now u have thousands going to matches especialy leinster and munster which used to get paltry crowds

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/11/2010 11:42:23    807745

proevo
County: Meath
Posts: 168

806898
GAA people are narrow minded about football or soccer as you call it..if you knew how hard soccer players worked or realised how talented they actually are youd respect them.Its not they're fault theyre getting 100,000 a week?Gaelic games are superb games with excellent people involved in them.But Football is the exact same you just have to expect the whole package that comes with it because of its globalisation and popularity.

please tell me your taking the ****,how hard soccer players work im a personal trainer and have trained nearly all kinds of sports teams and soccer players are the lazest to train.if you were getting 100,000 a week wouldnt u be motivated to do 2hours work a day and play 1 match a week and wen your asked to play a second match complain like a whimp and look forobertime money,i have no respect for them at all 100,000 a week is a disgrace for a start,theres people saving lives running countrys that dontget that in a year and they get it for doing what most people do for enjoyment,and as for how talented they are anybody who plays at the top level at what they do is talented wheter its soccer,gaa,rugby,bank manager,pilate they all have them same skill level at there choosen thing so it doesnt make any1 of them more talented then the other its like comparing a plumber with an electrician two seprate trades

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/11/2010 11:51:54    807755

proevo
County: Meath
Posts: 168

806898
GAA people are narrow minded about football or soccer as you call it..if you knew how hard soccer players worked or realised how talented they actually are youd respect them.Its not they're fault theyre getting 100,000 a week?Gaelic games are superb games with excellent people involved in them.But Football is the exact same you just have to expect the whole package that comes with it because of its globalisation and popularity.

do u honestly believe that statement,first off there is no dfferance in how hard a soccer player works on his skills to a gaa or rugby person they all reach the top of there game so there equally talented the differnace is as u put soccer players get 100,000 for theres were as gaa players have to go out and work and then come home and work on there skills so i find it hard to agree with you saying soccer players are so hardworking and as for talented if u mean in comparison to gaa players that point is pointless as u cannot compare the talents of a carpenter to an electrician they are two differant trades like gaa and soccer u HAVE TO BE EQUALLY SKILLED TO REACH THE TOP OF YOUR GAME.also i work as a personal trainer and have trained teams from most sports and soccer players i find are the least committed to putting in the effort you ask them to do

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/11/2010 12:31:53    807797

"They think it's gas I would from nine to half-five every day and then go training. They've had four or five honours midday sleep by that stage after training in the morning. It's a different world," he continued.
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Was he drunk when he said it, because i cant make head nor tail out of that line!!

Fredthered (Donegal) - Posts: 1144 - 02/11/2010 13:42:14    807867

hill16no1man, Id say your not busy as a personal trainer if that is your attitude towards any sports person and it is fairly obvious that you know damn all about what it takes to become a professional footballer .A GAA county player would not be as fit as a league of Ireland player and the reason is that they are amateurs and cant put in the time or the effort to become that fit .It showed over the last 2 weeks how far they were behind the Australians when the Aussies needed to step up a gear it was no problem and really only played in 3rd gear.

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 02/11/2010 13:45:33    807870

I think hill16no1man is right on this. Soccer does have its merits and I have to admit to a certain weakness for watching Barcelona. But a lot of it is media and commercially driven and as he says the papers are full every day of lots of rubbish about the English Premiership which to me is a fairly predicatable and boring competition where most of the excitement is generated by what happens off the field in court rooms and board rooms.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 02/11/2010 13:48:18    807872