Roundball I am from a small club so we cannot afford to have players playing only one. I think there is 3 lads that play hurling and don't play football. It is actually the comments after that initial one that I am talking about if you actually bothered to read the thread dhorse rather than posting stupid comments here you would know what I am talking about. I just posted this thread to see what peoples thoughts were and I am glad to see that it is not the general perception. As someone who played and enjoyed playing both I must say I always had a deeper satisfaction after playing a game of hurling than after a game of football

tipptothetop (Tipperary) - Posts: 531 - 05/10/2010 15:50:24    790556

PP should be really ignored as he is only a wum and for the record not one thing wrong with hurling.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 05/10/2010 16:07:21    790578

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790556 Roundball I am from a small club so we cannot afford to have players playing only one. I think there is 3 lads that play hurling and don't play football. It is actually the comments after that initial one that I am talking about if you actually bothered to read the thread dhorse rather than posting stupid comments here you would know what I am talking about. I just posted this thread to see what peoples thoughts were and I am glad to see that it is not the general perception. As someone who played and enjoyed playing both I must say I always had a deeper satisfaction after playing a game of hurling than after a game of football


Played both and other sports, badly. Where did anybody say they hated hurling, after all thats what the the title of the thread implies.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 05/10/2010 16:21:17    790587

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Where did anybody say they hated hurling, after all thats what the the title of the thread implies.


Don't start confusing things dhorse!

So, who would make the best full back line, the Three Stooges or the Marx Brothers. With Groucho maybe in the nets.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 05/10/2010 16:28:50    790602

I know why the "hate" exists...

You're either good at Hurling or good at football, it's a rare enough thing to be equally as good in either code...

so if your're not really capable of playing one competively, you'll always favour your favourite... at least you can play that one...

I know many decent hurlers.. throw them a big ball and they cant kick snow off a rope and vice versa...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 16:29:36    790603

In other words not liking one code is because you cant accept your own weakness.

You hate your weakness.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 16:35:03    790611

You're either good at Hurling or good at football, it's a rare enough thing to be equally as good in either code...

Not True Jimbo generally they are sports men who can be good at both given the focus that can be true for many sports.... I know plenty of footballers and hurlers who are excellent golfers.

It's not that their good at one over the other the main factor is which they focus on.... Eoin kelly is a decent footballer.... declan browne was a fantastic hurler but after an injury focused on football.... conor o'mahoney also an good footballer and rugby player too, look at dublin shane ryan, ross o'caroll.... many players just tend to focus on one depending on which is the most prominant or which they perfer..... sadly the era of the dual player is comming to an end players tend to train like professionals now and have to make the choice.

Players with good hand eye coordination physical fitness over time could excel at either.... but the skillset in hurling is harder to master but that been debated many a time on this forum over the years.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 05/10/2010 16:42:05    790620

Some people may prefer one code to the other, a bit like my releationship with jaffa cakes and figrolls, but contriving this hate thing is probably just an excuse to hate back.

Its rare enough to be good at both ok, however I think I like a lot of others mastered the art of being bad at both.

As for the Stooges V Marx bros, I think numerical advantage would swing it to the Marx lads as the game wore. Gummo was a promising Minor but never seemed to make the big time.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 05/10/2010 16:42:43    790621

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Of course there will be those good at either code but I reckon that's rare compared to those that are better at one out of the two...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 16:44:37    790628

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Plus chief... you're talking about Inter County players here man.. these fella could probably take up most sports and be very useful at it.

Not all are blessed.. I'm on about the Joe soaps.. this is where I think the whole "Hate" aspect comes into it...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 16:46:01    790630

I'm equally "good" at both........

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 05/10/2010 16:47:18    790632

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790621 Some people may prefer one code to the other, a bit like my releationship with jaffa cakes and figrolls, but contriving this hate thing is probably just an excuse to hate back.

But why compare cakes to biscuits????

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12311 - 05/10/2010 16:48:32    790635

But to be honest...

It's just an outlandish thought of mine that I dreamt up a few seconds ago... I'm not going to defend it very much!

Why do people hate? That's basically the message behind this thread...

I think that answer goes a lot deeper than smacking a bit of leather about the place... ignorance, fear, weakness... who knows.

An interesting thread this.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 16:52:23    790638

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790635 dhorse
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790621 Some people may prefer one code to the other, a bit like my releationship with jaffa cakes and figrolls, but contriving this hate thing is probably just an excuse to hate back.

But why compare cakes to biscuits????
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We've been over this.... ;)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 16:54:34    790641

I hate this type of thread.
Played both hurling and football at college, county and university. Absolutely loved playing both, and, as I am now living in the states, realise that both sports are amongst the most exiciting in the world.

I have brought people of all nationalities to watch games, and they are always equally impressed with either football or hurling.

Regarding skills, and the hurling more skillfull that football arguement. I disagree. It is two easy two generalize.

If you look closer, some things require greater skill in huring, while others require greater skills in football. e.g. in my opinion, the hardest skill of all to learn is the high catch in football.

Lets look at tackling.
It is easier to tackle in hurling, you don't have to be as close to the opposing player, and you can block a shot further away, and prevent a shot from behind (hook), flick the ball away before the player gets it. So I always thought that it was easier to tackle in hurling.

But..., it is harder to pick up and hit a ball in hurling, because of the ease of tackle, therefore it is harder to play the ball in hurling.

You can go on and on regarding the different skills. Frees, easier in huriling, penality, easier in football etc etc

But, if we look at the bigger picture, we have two great games

CSC (None) - Posts: 17 - 05/10/2010 17:06:46    790654

Can you not read between the lines dhorse, if a wall is yellow does somebody have to say it is yellow for it to be yellow? I was actually a better footballer than a hurler but I preferred hurling and practice as I did at the hurling I could not get any better, I just didn't have it in the wrists!

tipptothetop (Tipperary) - Posts: 531 - 05/10/2010 17:12:25    790657

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790654 I hate this type of thread.
Played both hurling and football at college, county and university. Absolutely loved playing both, and, as I am now living in the states, realise that both sports are amongst the most exiciting in the world.

I have brought people of all nationalities to watch games, and they are always equally impressed with either football or hurling.

Regarding skills, and the hurling more skillfull that football arguement. I disagree. It is two easy two generalize.

If you look closer, some things require greater skill in huring, while others require greater skills in football. e.g. in my opinion, the hardest skill of all to learn is the high catch in football.

Lets look at tackling.
It is easier to tackle in hurling, you don't have to be as close to the opposing player, and you can block a shot further away, and prevent a shot from behind (hook), flick the ball away before the player gets it. So I always thought that it was easier to tackle in hurling.

But..., it is harder to pick up and hit a ball in hurling, because of the ease of tackle, therefore it is harder to play the ball in hurling.

You can go on and on regarding the different skills. Frees, easier in huriling, penality, easier in football etc etc

But, if we look at the bigger picture, we have two great games
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Well said... Fig Rolls are much nicer than Jaffa Cakes

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 05/10/2010 17:14:25    790658

Strange thread. I genuinely believe no posters hate hurling. Some may prefer football but that is as far as it goes. In respect of the concept of why do people hate anything generally people hate what they fear. Many people hate snakes and rats very few hate rabbits and penquins, Personally I love hurling and tolerate football, I must say I was pleased as punch when the final whistle went at the Football All-Ireland this year but even though it was our first for 20 years and only our 7th overall my joy was only a fraction of what I felt say in '99 when soaked to the skin in Hill 16 and just having witnessed one of the worst All-Ireland hurling Finals of all times, the whistle went and Cork had won a hurling All-Ireland.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 05/10/2010 17:22:39    790669

What amazes me is how the GAA took 2 totally different games played them in the same field with basically the same set of rules and here we are 126years later and it still works.

chainsaw (Laois) - Posts: 712 - 05/10/2010 17:24:07    790673

jimbodub:

Right so jimbo.... how about lads that play dual games with their clubs.... from expireance the top footballers on the team and generally the top footballers aswell..... granted I havn't played on years but generally played the same position in football and hurling, 1 to 15 in both codes the same lads played in the same position in hurling and football and generally the same lads were on the bench..... I was a slightly better footballer think being 6'3 height is a bigger advantage in football, but prefered hurling.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 05/10/2010 17:33:21    790680