Cluxton was brilliant but the narrow pitch didn't help him.


thats no excuse for kicking the ball over the line but he did well running out with the ball. the last 10 minutes showed how it should be played

donaldo (Meath) - Posts: 352 - 24/10/2010 16:39:59    802725

Okay so it was a bad game and an awful display by the Irish but it's not as if we never seen a bad game of Gaelic, almost every weekend in may and june we witnessed bad games of football yet nobody was calling for the championship to be scrapped. Maybe it is a bit much to expect a game that is only played twice year to always be exciting, in the past the first game of the series has often been a bit of a let down with the second game being a lot more exciting as it is the decider although i will admit i have never seen an Irish display that bad before. Leighton Glynn i thought was possible our best player , he got stuck into the Australians and wasn't afraid to put his body on the line , too many of our players were afriad of the tackle to the point were they wouldn't pick up the ball or when it was passed to them they slapped it on often to an Aussie player. Many players went missing in the third quater and didn't want to know while other who were getting involed appeared to wait until the the Aussies had caught the ball and picked a pass before making the tackle, there was no man marking, at one stage the ball was a passed to an aussie who had four Irish players around him but not one of them moved in for a tackle. I also think Tohill had prejudged the team and there were certain players who were getting a full game regardless of their performance.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 24/10/2010 16:43:13    802730

Whatever about last nights game the muck thats on in Castlebar is terrible.

gipo (Sligo) - Posts: 39 - 24/10/2010 16:54:11    802743

The game had no life or excitement to it last night, apart from the last few minutes when the Irish boys played some bit. Think the concept of Compromise Rules does not work.
The Gaa would be better off bring back the Interprovincials, play the tournament in a knockout format and its finished in two weekends. The same two dates reserved for the Aussie matches. Make addmission €5 and you will get good crowds from all provinces to go watch our best players in action. Then at least you are promoting gaelic games and not soccer, as most of the Irish players were last night

kerryrebel (Kerry) - Posts: 28 - 24/10/2010 17:58:35    802785

It was that boring I almost switche over to watch the X-Factor.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 24/10/2010 19:04:57    802832

The Ulster championship is like watching an ice-skating elephant juggling chainsaws compared to that boring muck last night.
THAT'S how bad IR is.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 24/10/2010 20:00:58    802872

i cant believe the amount of people saying that the compromise rules is the worst idea of a sport ever. IT WAS ONE BAD MATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there are plenty of truly terrible matches during the championship every year( and im from wicklow so iv seen a few) and we dont say that the gaa is dead in the water.

WICKLOW.DUDE (Wicklow) - Posts: 28 - 24/10/2010 20:24:15    802889

a few posters are now using the excuse that this was just a blip of a bad match...similar to some of our championship matches during the summer....the thing is it has nothing to do with the quality...its just a nonsense of a game...getting scores for wides...an even less defined tackle than gaelic football, and thats achieving something, a game where you can sally up the pitch kicking the ball 20 yards at a time and getting free kicks for it...a poor gaelic football match makes for better watching than this

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 24/10/2010 21:15:17    802925

Coylers,

How many All Irelands has Leinster won this past decade? Whatever the Ulster Championship is it is competetive and it works. Armagh, Tyrone, Down in All Ireland finals. Meath? Dublin? Laois?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9829 - 24/10/2010 21:22:19    802932

The Mayo county final was terrible.

Let's scrap Gaelic football!!!!!!!!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 24/10/2010 21:23:37    802934

ulsterman...stick to the point....

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 24/10/2010 21:25:18    802937

mes amis...you completely miss the point with your petulant remark...this is a hybrid game, which does no justice to gaelic football or aussie rules....it has turned out to be a mixture of soccer, rugby and netball...the only reason why people watched in the past was the fights...now that that destructive element has gone, there will be no attraction anymore...gaelic football has 125 years of tradition behind it, and is a fast moving game...the rules in this game are by their nature a compromise...and as a compromise they have diluted the best elements of gaelic football and aussie rules...its about time to wind it up

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 24/10/2010 21:36:50    802948

Coylers Elbow

Yawwwwnnnnn

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/10/2010 21:43:55    802955

Louth gael, I agree there with what you say. Kennelly and cluxton were tremendous but too many player like Clarke cavanagh and McDonnell were poor I thought. I don't know what some game pundits were watching saying reilly had a good game.

I think judgement should be reserved til after the second match though.

Final point maytyroneman, the tackle is without doubt way more defined thanany tackle in Gaelic football. It's between shoulders and knees. If player does not release ball it is a free to tackler. If he is tackled and rolled to his back, free to tackler. Player cannot hold on in the tackle and as a result is deemed " not to be given reasonable opportunity to release the ball". No dangerous tackle from behind resulting in forward motion and finally if ball is released fairly in the tackle play on.

Seems pretty defined to me. Not like the pulling and dragging baloney that goes on in Gaelic. I do agree it is of massive advantage to Aussies.

However, it does seem ridiculously Irish that when we do badly at something we throw the rattle out of the cot and don't want to play anymore, Instead of being clever. The Aussie played Aussie rules and we tried to for most of the game instead of playing the running Gaelic football we know. Tohill needs to make changes and the majority of players need to get their finger out and get stuck in.

sneachta (None) - Posts: 414 - 25/10/2010 10:32:24    802992

sorry

I must have been watching a different match

I thought Cluxton was far from excellent, kicking the ball off the ground from kickouts rarely finding an irish player was self indulgent and very poor, he slowed the game down when he got possession

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 25/10/2010 12:04:01    803024

I must agree with that, how many times did he kick the ball over the sideline? The australian goalie was much better at finding players to get it moving.

gipo (Sligo) - Posts: 39 - 25/10/2010 12:32:47    803042

Cluxton could not do his main job he was given. KICK OUT THE BALL. Gave it away numerous times.
kennelys kick passing and shooting were very poor.

Overall i think the backs were not too bad defensivly but the distribution into the forwards was not great. Also the shooting coampared to the aussies was a bit worrying.

square_ball (Galway) - Posts: 229 - 25/10/2010 12:39:13    803048

Per Ignem
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802572 Folks…step back a moment the true calibre of the game is one discussion, but more significantly and worrying is the shambles witnessed last night bears a true reflection of where Gaelic football is currently at the moment. The Aussies were far superior and more comfortable kicking and fielding the round football than our supposable elite footballers who are kicking the dam thing since they were 3 years of age!

Current day Gaelic Football, we rarely kick the football anymore, it's a hand pass to someone 3-5 meters away across, back or forward across the pitch until we eventually put our specialised kicker in a scoring position. Look at our own game and last nights performance isn't one pit surprising at all!

This is the top post on the whole thread and the most accurate. How far has our own skill base dropped when a crowd of Aussies who use a roundball twice a year kick it better than we do. The game was poor to watch. I was disappointed as normally I quite enjoy the games, however on Saturday nights evidence I think I will save myself the bother of travelling to Dublin. At one stage in the 3rd quarter I was praying that someone would belt somebody just to put a bit of excitement into it. Brogan showed the pure class that he is with that goal and if we could get some ball to him we might do a bit of damage

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 25/10/2010 12:44:59    803052

It's terrible stuff. Couldn't get to Parnell for the Dublin hurling semis (thank Jeepers :-( so sat at home watching GAA Beo. My god! That Mayo game was dreadful. Having said that watched to the end because I was hoping Ballintubber would win and in fairness they were the only creative team there. That Dillon is a good player.

HOWEVER, watching the KK hurling final afterwards was like listening to Mozart after an hour of Lady Gaga :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/10/2010 13:35:32    803075

It was a fierce disappointing match alright. It's not the same without the proper tackling at all. It used to be such a fast game because if a player hesitated at all he would be tackled to the ground. Any decent looking tackles that were made (very few) were blown for frees. Only for Brogan's goal it wouldn't be worth going to next week in Croker cause we'd be already bet. Tadhg Kennelly played well but Leighton Glynn was the best for us. He's so small compared to most of them but seems to be always in the right place at the right time. Disappointed with Tommy Walsh, thought he'd stand out more. Surely the match in Croker will be a lot better than this. If it's not I wouldn't be surprised if we see this whole thing scrapped

kefan (Kildare) - Posts: 498 - 25/10/2010 13:58:19    803091