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Should throwing the hurl be a red card?

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Tis all fun and games until someone loses an eye.....

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/09/2010 13:29:16    766340

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straight red .. end of story

its not sportsmanship to throw a hurl in the direction of an opponent .. especially as it could injure a fellow player

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13655 - 06/09/2010 14:00:08    766382

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766283 Not that dangerous Bosch? Well if you fancy sticking on a helmet I'll gladly throw hurls at you all day and see if you change your mind.

No bother offside rule - you come and you can through hurls at me all day, i will in turn swing at your head with a hurl and you can see which is more dangerous ;)

bosch (Derry) - Posts: 873 - 06/09/2010 14:27:40    766433

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Cavan Slasher, whilst it would look aweful if an umpire were hit by a flying hurley, I would still say it should only be a yellow. Any umpire who couldn't dodge a hurley thrown from the field of play, wouldn't have any business using his eyesight to check on scores anyway. It's highly unlikely that such a thing would happen. It is so unlikely that I don't think it's worth a special rule.

I'm not condoning the throwing of hurleys. If it becomes frequent and habitual, we may have to think about harsher consequences. But, for now, a yellow is enough.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 06/09/2010 15:04:00    766469

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Happy days Bosch - though to be fair to you I'll give you first swing at me as you prob won't have another opportunity ;-). Sure then after we can take off our boots and start throwing them at each other too as thats prob not that dangerous either.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 06/09/2010 16:01:45    766559

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No way should it be a red. Yellow card will suffice.

Its not that dangerous, especially with the new helmut rule.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 06/09/2010 16:14:09    766575

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Yes it should be a red card offence purely because it would cut put an end to the practice. And for those who are going over the top saying how dangerous and cowardice it is, GET OVER YOURSELVES!

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 06/09/2010 16:42:26    766615

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I agree: not Red ,Yellow!

Bigapple (Kerry) - Posts: 495 - 06/09/2010 16:45:36    766620

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I wouldnt considering throwing boots as dangerous either offside rule so throw away, you can throw your rattle at me as well..... il continue swinging at your head with a hurl happily enough.
So to reiterate;

You are allowed to throw the hurl at me
Throw your boots at me

and i can;

swing the hurley at your head?

bosch (Derry) - Posts: 873 - 06/09/2010 16:46:11    766622

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Seriously if the worst thing that happened to me on a hurling field is someone throwing a hurl at me like Tennyson did id be laughing!
Its not a particularly sporting act and i wouldnt do it myself but its not exactly going to do much, if any damage now that everyone wears a helmet.

bosch (Derry) - Posts: 873 - 06/09/2010 16:56:19    766631

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Seriously if the worst thing that happened to me on a hurling field is someone throwing a hurl at me like Tennyson did id be laughing!
Its not a particularly sporting act and i wouldnt do it myself but its not exactly going to do much, if any damage now that everyone wears a helmet.


Agreed.

Don't understand peoples problems here at all. Its not that dangerous at all.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 06/09/2010 16:59:55    766634

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Whilst it is arguably a red card offence it could hardly be described as cowardly? The defender was commiting a foul in a last , desperate attempt to save a certain goal. In the heat of battle I didnt think it that extraordinary. The chances of serious harm has now all but been removed with the compulsory helmets. Ok probably a red card , but give the guy a break. It was an AI final and so much was at stake. And I'll tell ye what there will be many a Tipp. club proudly exhibiting that very shot on their members walls , with Lars bearin down on goal and the Hurl flyin past him.

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 06/09/2010 17:10:07    766648

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Seriously if the worst thing that happened to me on a hurling field is someone throwing a hurl at me like Tennyson did id be laughing!
Its not a particularly sporting act and i wouldnt do it myself but its not exactly going to do much, if any damage now that everyone wears a helmet.

Agreed.

Don't understand peoples problems here at all. Its not that dangerous at all.


At all at all

I need a thesaurus

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 06/09/2010 17:11:59    766653

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I wouldnt considering throwing boots as dangerous either offside rule so throw away, you can throw your rattle at me as well..... il continue swinging at your head with a hurl happily enough.
So to reiterate;

You are allowed to throw the hurl at me
Throw your boots at me

and i can;

swing the hurley at your head?


Yep that sounds about even enough, though I'll have one hand behind my back just to make sure I'm not at any advantage - hope you can swing high. :-)

On a serious note - although you're correct that most times it won't do much damage there is always the chance that if it hits the right spot hard enough it could be very serious - like the spot at the bottom of your neck (around 3rd vertebrae), front of throat (at base under thyroid cartilage), jugular, side of neck (slightly above collarbone) all of which wouldn't be covered by the helmet. Although you'd be unlucky to find yourself in this situation the potential is there that the flying hurl could hit any of these spots.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 06/09/2010 19:01:21    766822

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Typical behaviour on a hurling pitch

b.mullins (Dublin) - Posts: 1413 - 06/09/2010 19:16:59    766846

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I'd rather see a back beating a forward like he is hitting a heifer than see him throwing a hurl at a player.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 06/09/2010 19:18:40    766851

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A Yellow card, for unsportsmanlike conduct!

Bigapple (Kerry) - Posts: 495 - 06/09/2010 19:23:16    766856

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Its like throwing a boot in football! I dont see how it makes sense to throw a hurl, If your not fast enough your not fast enough, Wake up and smell the coffee or as they drink in the GAA, Tae

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 06/09/2010 19:31:41    766863

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First off yes, it is a little on the edge and in future it probably should be called as a foul, simply because it would be practically impossible to officiate what was dangerous and what wasnt. But I think there is a little over-reaction here. Does anyone actually think that he tried to hit the guy? He was clearly trying to float the hurl in front of him in an attempt to block the ball. There was no intent to strike the player, he just floated it into the path of the ball. If it went wrong there was no more potential for damage than a badly executed hook.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 06/09/2010 19:31:43    766864

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What does the rule book say about the throwing of a hurley? Is it a red card or a yellow? Does the issue of danger come into it... as opposed to using it to cause a distraction? If its a distraction then surely it should be a yellow but if its deemed to be a danger to a player, then surely a red card is the only ooption open to the referee?

Regarding the case yesterday, what do people think... a distraction or a danger?

So... again, what does the rule book state? If anyone has one to hand then perhaps they could clear up this debate!

Sometimes people overreact to a new situation that arises in a televised game. I think this is the case here.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1881 - 06/09/2010 20:08:30    766933

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