I think you'll find this thread is not about what offaly have won, we're not trying to take claim to something we're not, and we've been every bit if not more successful than Tipp in the last 30 years. Do you think I care about 1889 or whatever you are trying to brag about.
Faithfull , 10/08/2010 at 17:17

Yes faithful wel just brag about 2001 and the 25 wev one and wel brag about this years one too is that good enough for you?

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 17:28:20    742418

32_4_1, I disagree, how can the greatest county of any sport go long long without winning finals and be considered the greatest. Munster or no Munster, Kilkenny have beaten Munster teams in nearly all of there all ireland wins. To be the best you have to beat the best, no excuses.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 10/08/2010 17:28:52    742420

surely the greatest hurling county ever, would be the county wit the most all irelands(senior,u21 & minor etc. i don't know who this is) cos it doesn't matter wat province or wat era u come out of, u only can only beat wat is put in front of u and anyway, they still had to beat oppostion outside their province to win an all-ireland

Jones (Monaghan) - Posts: 27 - 10/08/2010 17:38:39    742437

richiej
County: UK
Posts: 439

no jus one tipp poster,,,thurlesblues

lowerormond (Tipperary) - Posts: 1267 - 10/08/2010 17:51:58    742462

don't think so unfortunately maybe back when tipp won in 1971 we were the best county but we've lagged behind for the last few decades but having said that i'm proud of the rich tradition and history of tipp but i would never saw we were the greatest county not for the moment anyway

moddy91 (Tipperary) - Posts: 226 - 10/08/2010 17:52:56    742463

Bugger he's figured out how to create Topic's we'er in trouble now!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 10/08/2010 18:01:12    742481

moody 91 Tipp first team to win the football and huling double also

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 18:04:33    742491

Thurles blue you still havn't answer my pooint about tipp not being good enough to reach an all-ireland after 2001 hence kinda nullifies your arguement about tipp's record in all-ireland against kilkenny in recent history, you also disregard kilkenny beaten tipp in 2 semi finals in that time frame as they were all-ireland finals.

I think tipp now have the potential is challenging kilkenny if they play to their potential but we have to be happy with 3rd in the ranking in recent history.

If they can dominate this comming decade like kilkenny have dominated the last decade then fair enough give em the title.... I'll deal in if's again for you, if tipp do go onto dominate the next decade will you go to all the matches or cheery pick the games like you do at the moment.... also will you go to the waterford game or will you hold out for the all-ireland??

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 10/08/2010 18:14:11    742507

Thurles blue you still havn't answer my pooint about tipp not being good enough to reach an all-ireland after 2001 hence kinda nullifies your arguement about tipp's record in all-ireland against kilkenny in recent history, you also disregard kilkenny beaten tipp in 2 semi finals in that time frame as they were all-ireland finals.

I think tipp now have the potential is challenging kilkenny if they play to their potential but we have to be happy with 3rd in the ranking in recent history.

If they can dominate this comming decade like kilkenny have dominated the last decade then fair enough give em the title.... I'll deal in if's again for you, if tipp do go onto dominate the next decade will you go to all the matches or cheery pick the games like you do at the moment.... also will you go to the waterford game or will you hold out for the all-ireland??
HAG_AND_CHEESE , 10/08/2010 at 18:14
As I said wel never know whether Kilkenny would have got thjat 4 in a row if they met Tipp in a final after since 2001 but tradition still shows me that Tipp normally beat Cats in all ireland finals even when wev an average team does that answere your question hags?

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 18:28:41    742531

thurlesblues:

So wait I trying to get around your logic here a team that can't beat kilkenny in a semi final on two occasions in the 00's and couldn't make it to an all-ireland on merit would beat them in an all-ireland!!!

Ok I've re-read the line I posted there several times there and sorry still makes no sense..... dose anyone else get his logic or is it just me!!!

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 10/08/2010 18:52:10    742558

thurlesblues
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I agree mikeoc in the 60s Cork Kilkenny and Tipp were strong and yet for all that , the 4 out of 5 all irelands that Tipp won between 61 and 65 nobody came within 14 points of them



All Ireland hurling final scores.

1961 Tipperary 0-16 1-12 DUBLIN

1962 Tipperary 3-10 2-11 wexford

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 10/08/2010 19:01:17    742573

10/08/2010 17:13:42
thurlesblues
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Between 1887 and 1904, the Golden age of hurling, Tipp won 6 titles, Cork won 6 and Kilkenny none.

All downhill after that for Tipp.
patrique , 10/08/2010 at 17:08

what about the 19 titles wev won since patrique we have 25 you know!!



I was just agreeing withy the Kerry man. He said Kilkenny won their THIRTY ONE (31) titles to those 19 of Tipp's when Tipp were weak.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 10/08/2010 19:03:07    742578

10/08/2010 18:04:33
thurlesblues
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moody 91 Tipp first team to win the football and huling double also



1891 football: DUBLIN Hurling: KERRY

1991 Football: Down: Hurling: Tipperary.

What are they teaching you in that national school?

Unless you mean 2091? If so thanks for the tip (pun intended)

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 10/08/2010 19:07:46    742585

hags and cheese Il ask you a question now you said Tipp were a poor team when they won the All Ireland in 2001 and I agree with you on that but they still won it! Now my question is do you know for sure that Kilkenny would have won 4 in a row if they had met Tipp in the other finals cos bad Tipp teams have beaten better Kilkenny teams before in all Irelands?? and dont mention the semi finals cos they were in 2002 and 2003 and nothing to do with the 4 in a row. Will you answer that one for me!!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 19:17:28    742599

looks like Johns Doyles and rings 8 all ireland medals record wont be broken or even equalled now!

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 19:19:06    742604

Tipperary - Greatest hurling county of all time

Are they?

Where have they been for the last 40 years then? Living off past glories methinks there thurlesblues. You could almost be a Dublin football supporter ;)

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 10/08/2010 19:21:06    742605

kerryman is right they onlly caught up with us in last decade

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 19:35:16    742621

As I said Patrique Tipp were they first team to win the double in the one year thats why wer called the premier read my original post again we were the first team to win the hurling and football all ireland in the same year do you understand now??

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 19:44:23    742641

Cork are the greatest hurling team. It shows by how much they have won overall.


Cork
All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championships: 30
All-Ireland Under-21 Hurling Championships: 11
All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championships: 18
All-Ireland Intermediate Hurling Championships: 7
All-Ireland Junior Hurling Championships: 11
National Hurling Leagues: 14

Total 91

Kilkenny
All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship: 32
All-Ireland Under-21 Hurling Championships: 11
All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championship: 19
All-Ireland Intermediate Hurling Championship: 2
All-Ireland Junior Hurling Championships: 9
National Hurling League: 14

Total 87

Tipperary
All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championships: 25
All-Ireland Under-21 Hurling Championships: 8
All-Ireland Minor Hurling Championships: 18
All-Ireland Intermediate Hurling Championships: 5
All-Ireland Junior Hurling Championships: 9
National Hurling Leagues: 19

Total 84

PaRyan (Tipperary) - Posts: 68 - 10/08/2010 19:47:16    742645

Where have they been for the last 40 years then? Living off past glories methinks there thurlesblues. You could almost be a Dublin football supporter ;)
MesAmis , 10/08/2010 at 19:21

according to my maths 2001 is only 9 years ago am I correct??

thurlesblues (Tipperary) - Posts: 4475 - 10/08/2010 19:53:57    742655