Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 3341


I have rarely posted on here in the last couple of months due to the huge number of WUMs on here. What's the point in trying to have a discussion with that guy constantly throwing in idiotic comments. Any criticism i give him is warranted and I'm sure others agree. in the first 5 threads on this page there are 2 which Dell has turned into arguments.

Fr.Ted.Crilly (Derry) - Posts: 449 - 10/08/2010 15:51:17    742159

Brolly
County: Monaghan
Posts: 1678

742141 Its amazing how some people can turn any thread into an argument. I came on here to get a few ideas for my own u14 team so its a great thread.

let the coaches coach and the players play. I am against all forms of player power.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 10/08/2010 15:51:55    742163

Brolly
County: Monaghan
Posts: 1678

742141 Its amazing how some people can turn any thread into an argument. I came on here to get a few ideas for my own u14 team so its a great thread.


How dare you!

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 10/08/2010 15:52:13    742165

Fr.Ted.Crilly
County: Derry
Posts: 360

742159 Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 3341


I have rarely posted on here in the last couple of months due to the huge number of WUMs on here. What's the point in trying to have a discussion with that guy constantly throwing in idiotic comments. Any criticism i give him is warranted and I'm sure others agree. in the first 5 threads on this page there are 2 which Dell has turned into arguments.

Its a chicken and egg scenario. You could be right about this thread, but maybe the abuse you gave him before has come home to roost. I think he gave his opinion on the other thread and Paddyogall turned it into an argument, not dell.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12310 - 10/08/2010 15:58:04    742183

Breffni39 Thank you as paddy and even crilly attacks me on other threads and my point is a good coach knows his drills.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 10/08/2010 16:01:22    742195

well there you go dell yet again you show us that you know nothing about coaching or playing sport for that matter , every gaa inter county manager is always doing courses and picking other managers and coaches brains for new ideas , i have done a lot of courses and have seen intercounty palyers and managers on these courses , even your hero alex ferguson said when he thinks that he knows it all is the day to get out as he said he is still learning and improving his coaching skills

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 10/08/2010 16:02:21    742198

I'm not Paddyogall incase you haven't notice. I'd love you to show me where I have picked on Dell before.

Fr.Ted.Crilly (Derry) - Posts: 449 - 10/08/2010 16:03:03    742201

Dellboypolecat

You said you shouldn't be coaching if you don't know every drill under the sun. All I was doing is sharing my own drills that work well with others and asking them what works well for them. But you turn it into a circus as usual.

Over 12,000 posts and I have yet to read one that makes sense.

Fr.Ted.Crilly (Derry) - Posts: 449 - 10/08/2010 16:08:03    742218

Well it is good to see someone making an effort to improve their knowledge of coaching. You should be applauded not ridiculed.
Here are some drills that work on the basics:
1. Pair them up, with a ball between two. get one to count how many times the other can rise the ball in 30 seconds, then swap over-> they love the competion and it helps develop their control of the hurley.
2. In groups of 3, get them to start out in a line. Give the two players on the outside a sliotar, they then take it in turns to give and recieve a pass from the man (or woman) in the middle. This can be a ground hurling or out of the hands drill. (dont forget to rotate the child in the middle because theu get wrecked!!)
3. As was previously mentioned getting them to stay in positions is imortant, however it is usually not a problem by u14 level. if you do have this problem, i find that breaking the pitch into 3 sections with cones that players cannot cross unless they are meant to be in that area of the pitch. This works for training matches. (but you need at least 14 players for the drill to really work.)
4. I find that ground hurling is not given the attention it deserves by a lot of coaches, and you can tell from the sideline that the team that practises ground hurling will win a lot more 50 50 tussels around the park, if you get them to play a match at the end of training, why not start the match with 5 minutes ground hurling only?

Overall it depends on what you feel the team need to work on most. Once you can identify that its half the job done. If you can pick the drills that will improve on the players weaknesses you will become a good coach.

Billy_The_Kid (Limerick) - Posts: 63 - 10/08/2010 16:16:02    742240

Breffni39 Thank you as paddy and even crilly attacks me on other threads and my point is a good coach knows his drills.

I think any coach will agree no matter how good your drills are you can always do more, vary it a bit etc. Why can't people just do as he asked & help him out?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 10/08/2010 16:18:02    742247

Fr.Ted.Crilly Apologies! On further investigation i have you mixed up with another poster. Sorry again.

Dell, realising I have mixed up posters I have to say you could be more constructive on this thread. I don't agree that good coaches know all the drills.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12310 - 10/08/2010 16:24:57    742266

Brilliant Breff !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 10/08/2010 16:30:38    742285

Make them run a few laps!!!! :-)

jambread (Cork) - Posts: 307 - 10/08/2010 16:34:18    742299

few short sprints and lots ball work.. try and play 5 a side games so as to get all players have a chance to get on the ball and feel comfortable with it....sport is played in short busts now no longer the need to run laps upon laps

cunday9lu (Louth) - Posts: 175 - 10/08/2010 16:57:13    742355

fr.ted.criily take no heed from them louths manager had brian mceniff and peter mcdonnell in helping him evreybody can learn new things...you ever try indoor hurling for them its can be handy and fun

HIGHHOPES (Louth) - Posts: 247 - 10/08/2010 17:04:45    742365

Ted, Ulster Council site has plenty of info on it but takes a bit of sifting through it.

Talk to the other coaches in your club, ask their opinions, watch other training sessions, think back to your own playing days. You might find you use some drills from others or that you change theirs to suit your purposes.

Dell, thats total rubbish. No coach knows all there is to know, you never stop learning & developing as a coach.

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 11/08/2010 09:48:05    742849

I use a good one Ted, I reckon it mixes up long and short kicking, soloing at speed and a hand pass all in one drill.

Goes something like this.
1. 3 lads in a row, lets call them A, B and C, about 15-20 yards apart. Starting positions are A - B - C
2. Start by player A soloing towards B at pace, handpasses to B and takes the return then kicks short to C
3. Once A has taken the return pass from B, player B moves to the start
4. As soon as Player C recieves the ball, he gives a long kick pass to player B and follows the ball to position B in time to take and return the handpass.
5. So when player B starts his run, they are lined up like this B - C - A
6. After the next round of solo - handpass - short kick - long kick the players are lined up as follows: C - A - B
7. Then A - B- C and so on. If done at speed the whole thing is a good drill.

I found the players enjoy it as they are kept moving with a mix of kicking, handpass and solo.

diablodeKingdom (Kerry) - Posts: 210 - 11/08/2010 11:51:25    742970