pointless argument - clearly, mick o'dwyer and brian cody are the best managers in GAA history.

Ballboy (Dublin) - Posts: 88 - 29/07/2010 18:07:41    728703

lessbull

Harte has won minor , u21, and senior has jack.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 29/07/2010 19:37:54    728858

dell if jack was around as long as mickey with the players at his disposal and wih his record from schools to senior he could have trebel the ai ad thats not exaggerated

booboo (Cork) - Posts: 1382 - 29/07/2010 20:59:48    728950

The great Tom Nolan must rank highly no?

sashman (Kildare) - Posts: 465 - 29/07/2010 21:15:30    728972

boylan by a mile no competition unreal record

sam1996 (Meath) - Posts: 436 - 29/07/2010 21:43:04    729018

Mickey Harte for sure,the mans a Genius..they would have won 3 AIs without him...Sean Boylan 2nd and Heffo 3rd..then Micko and Cody..i dont rate these as high as they have and had some of the greatest ever players at there disposal

proevo (Meath) - Posts: 296 - 29/07/2010 21:49:41    729029

It's hard to Argue against Micko and Cody but each winning manager has to overcome a set of problems to win the all ireland. Micko won with Kerry but didn't manage to win an all Ireland with any other county, was he a poor manager after he left kerry? It could be argued that his achievements with Laois and Kildare are superior than what he achieved with Kerry because of where the counties were. So if it's who won the most all Irelands then there is little argument but who were the greatest deserves debate. The roscommon manager this year winning a Connaught with a team that was relegated from D3 could have a case. I would be ahrd pressed to argue against Cody amd Micko but Harte, Heffo and JBM all have claims based in their particular circumstances.

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 30/07/2010 09:55:46    729114

29/07/2010 19:37:54
Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 12140

728858 lessbull

Harte has won minor , u21, and senior has jack.


No Jack has not won minor, u21 and senior. But he has won a Hogan Cup (What many would think to be the second biggest prize in football), 3 All ireland Vocational Schools, U21, 3 Senior and 3 league titles. In fact he managed an All ireland Senior, League and Hogan Cup winning team in the same year. Has been to 2 all ireland finals in the same year on 2 seperate years with 2 different teams. He has been manager at an all-ireland final in 9 of his 14 years as manager of club, school and county winning 8 All Ireland titles from 10 appearances.

Now I'm not saying he is better than anyone else. I'm just answering your question and letting you know what he did win because judging from your question above you are obviously unsure.

What I can say for certain is that noone in football can come close to Micko, even Jack O'C with his record, and the nearest would probably have to be Kevin Heffernan, followed closely by Boylan, Harte and O'Connor among others.

As for Hurling, well, Cody will have to go down as the greatest ever.

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 30/07/2010 11:14:57    729219

MICKO

maco (Meath) - Posts: 357 - 30/07/2010 12:08:53    729311

Heffo...Micko ....Sean Boylan.....

Mollymalone (Dublin) - Posts: 1137 - 30/07/2010 12:20:16    729332

micko-football
coady-hurling

smiley2010 (Kildare) - Posts: 22 - 30/07/2010 12:21:57    729334

Harte and Cody

bistokid (Dublin) - Posts: 65 - 30/07/2010 12:27:04    729342

hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 2091

727935 Sorry, Eamonn O'Sullivan. Got him mixed up with the chap the stadium is called after.

Indeed, the great Dr. Eamonn O'Sullivan brought Kerry to 9 All-Ireland finals, winning 8 of them, in various stints at the job between the 1920s and the 1960s. Micko, I believe is the only other manager to have won 8 senior All-Irelands in football.

O'Sullivan was supposed to have been far ahead of his time in terms of team preparation and got into the science and psychology of team preparation when such things would have been laughed at, and even wrote a book entitled "The Art and Science of Gaelic Football". He also spearheaded the development of Fitzgerald Stadium. That might be where your confusion arose from.

Weeshie Fogarty, the esteemed Radio Kerry sports presenter recently wrote a book about him entitled "Dr Eamonn O'Sullivan: A Man Before His Time". I haven't read it myself, so I can't say if it's any good or not.

lessbull (Kerry) - Posts: 177 - 30/07/2010 16:23:05    729807

Eamon Cloman

biffo1 (Cavan) - Posts: 148 - 30/07/2010 17:48:14    729933

Over the past 35+ years, I'd say Sean Boylan

DroicheadAtha (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 30/07/2010 17:59:11    729955

Micko!

biffo1 (Cavan) - Posts: 148 - 30/07/2010 18:15:36    729987

Boylan for me.
Didnt win all irelands with different counties, but the way he rebuilt entirley new meath teams to win was almost the same.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6348 - 30/07/2010 18:39:57    730031

Heffo - brought football to the streets.

JimmyK (Dublin) - Posts: 240 - 30/07/2010 20:57:57    730136