ok, first of all the apparent competitiveness in ulster is gone now. tyrone are dominant because the rest have fallen way back. i love ulster football but some posters from the province need to realise that ulsters glory days are over at least for now.
second, oranmoreman, that is the biggest pile of nonsense you have just spewed out. you have bought into the spillane-led attack on the quality of football these days and the myth that football had higher quality in previous decades. aimless punting down the field is not entertainment in my book. what we are seeing now is a group of superb athletes with a greater array of skills than ever before. galway have some nice forwards but they have the least backbone of any team in the country. no fight in them which is a shame to see. they can play some nice football but when push comes to shove they will fall well short. if they don't change they'll be stuck on 9 all-irelands for a long time.
finally, to all the connacht bashers, i still think mayo are a good team and will be back much better next year. yes, connacht are the poorest province at the minute but in a few years it could easily be ulster or leinster so lets just lay off them for a while.

galballygael23 (Tyrone) - Posts: 235 - 29/07/2010 16:21:40    728466

Breff just because you can't make valid points you decide it's a slagging match. Where have i slated your province? You made the silly statement about beating Sligo and the rossies in fairness! Ulster is the most competitive province in my opinion but that doesn't mean it's the strongest. Anyway that'll do!

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 29/07/2010 16:49:54    728548

Galball23,
I haven't bought into any attack led by anyone, I may have come across a little heavy handed but I would ask of you to look at some of the football played in past decades and then you will see that the quality of football played is of a poorer quality to years gone by. Even look at the difference from 96 - 2001 to the football being played now.
I have to question your view that there is greater athletes nowadays with a greater array of skills??? Football is a game about kicking the ball, we would all give out if all of a sudden soccer was nothing but throw ins and headers, when people go to see a football game they expect to see football played, attack minded kicking football.
Just because a growing community of people are of the opinion that the standard of football has decreased and that there's not much actual 'football' being played by certain teams does not make a person a band wagon jumper or a Spillane supporter, something which I am not.
I take your criticisms of Galway football at present and note that I don't accuse you of being anything in return.
We'll see how good Connacht football is come the weekend, I'd be very confident of a good showing from Roscommon and more luck to them and to your own county as well.

oranmoreman (Galway) - Posts: 77 - 29/07/2010 16:56:12    728557

jonny1951
County: Mayo
Posts: 344

728548 Breff just because you can't make valid points you decide it's a slagging match. Where have i slated your province? You made the silly statement about beating Sligo and the rossies in fairness! Ulster is the most competitive province in my opinion but that doesn't mean it's the strongest. Anyway that'll do!

I never stated anything about any provinces strength or weakness, and never slagged any team, yet you have had several cuts at Cavan and Ulster. You decided it was a hilarious notion that Cavan could win Connacht and I stated we are usually at the same standard as this years Connacht finalists, for what is worth. This is practically a fact and any Sligo or Roscommon fan should tell you the same.

You then made a silly "if" statement that meant absolutely nothing.

My main beef is that, while I don't agree with this thread and the rubbish about strongest provinces, posters on here like oranmoreman, instead of simply defending his province, attacks others, making him and, fair enough, to a lesser extent, you just as bad as the opening poster and Wums

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 29/07/2010 17:03:44    728570

oranmoreman
County: Galway
Posts: 50

728557 Galball23,
I haven't bought into any attack led by anyone, I may have come across a little heavy handed but I would ask of you to look at some of the football played in past decades and then you will see that the quality of football played is of a poorer quality to years gone by. Even look at the difference from 96 - 2001 to the football being played now.
I have to question your view that there is greater athletes nowadays with a greater array of skills??? Football is a game about kicking the ball, we would all give out if all of a sudden soccer was nothing but throw ins and headers, when people go to see a football game they expect to see football played, attack minded kicking football.
Just because a growing community of people are of the opinion that the standard of football has decreased and that there's not much actual 'football' being played by certain teams does not make a person a band wagon jumper or a Spillane supporter, something which I am not.
I take your criticisms of Galway football at present and note that I don't accuse you of being anything in return.
We'll see how good Connacht football is come the weekend, I'd be very confident of a good showing from Roscommon and more luck to them and to your own county as well.

Haha I think you covered that earlier in the thread :)

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 29/07/2010 17:10:12    728577

Breff,
Man up will you. There's no one attacking anything. This is a forum, where debates occur and people express their opinion, I gave my views on a topic, never threatened anyone nor insinuated same.

Don't quite understand your comment with the bold writing, I was accused of speaking waffle etc and of joining the tabloid brigade I in turn never said anything of the sort.

Anyways hopefully Cavan'll pull themselves together along with Galway for next year.

oranmoreman (Galway) - Posts: 77 - 29/07/2010 20:10:51    728896

oranmoreman

its time people such as yourself stopped talking about dublin and kerry from the 70s....this new style of football has produced some brilliant matches such as tyrone armagh 2005 tyrone dublin 2005 and kerry tyrone 2005 and 2008. please explain how you think football was better in 96-2001 when this was when a poor kerry side won the handiest all ireland and galway beat a kildare side with no top class forward??

ffgg (Longford) - Posts: 2571 - 29/07/2010 20:17:01    728903

No Leinster team has won the trophy since 1999. Galway lifted it in 2001, and a few Ulster teams have done it too (Armagh and Tyrone) as have Kerry (about five times). Until a Leinster team wins it again, it can't claim to be the strongest province. I think that Kildare and possibly Dublin are reasonably strong. I thought Meath might have an outside chance after the demolition of Dublin but it is hard to measure that now. They were poor against Louth - their midfield particularly. Comparing provinces isn't particularly helpful as there is an ebb and flow. Look at the situation in the sixties, when Galway were top, or in the eighties, when Kerry won so many (as they did in the seventies too). The Ulster teams had a good go in the early 90's and since 2002, they've done well too. However, apart from Down, they were quiet for a long period. Kerry go through some unsuccessful periods but they're very short compared to most counties (certainly nothing like those long periods experienced by Galway (32) and
Mayo (nearly 60) or Louth (53) or Kildare (82)). Anyway, I think most counties would be happy to be third in the number of titles won (as Galway are), three times as many as won by one particular Northern county.

Oggy (Galway) - Posts: 245 - 29/07/2010 20:32:07    728920

Breff where did i have several cuts at Cavan and your province? I simply stated that apart from Tyrone there is no other team good enough to win the all ireland in Ulster. And if pointing out to your fellow Cavan man who started this nonsense that your own county would not win Connaaught is slating then you must be a very sensitive soul!

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 30/07/2010 08:47:10    729069

Everything in cycles lads,Connaught will rise again.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 30/07/2010 08:58:15    729077

Coonaught football is really bad iu think my under 14 team cud beat them ROFL

Gaelicmeath (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 30/07/2010 09:58:12    729117

Not so long ago that their were 3 Connacht teams in the quarter finals.
These things come in cycles. Don't write off Connacht yet as we have had good success at underage level recently.

denzel (None) - Posts: 452 - 30/07/2010 10:02:00    729122

ffgg,
When did I mention Dublin and Kerry in the 70's?? I said the general standard was way higher than the general standard of football we see today. You mentioned 3 or 4 matches from 2005 and 2008 as good games of football. If you watched almost every game from 70's onwards it was a good entertaining game where there was a full array of football skills on show and most importantly the ball was actually kicked as opposed to handpassed!!! The quality and standard of football seen in the last few years doesn't really heat up til the All Ireland series and we'll probably see the same this weekend.
Nowadays you watch a game you see guys who can run and tackle, but with very little full footballing skill to compliment this ie - overhead catch, kick with both feet, pick the ball up cleanly first time, score a point with both feet, sometimes even score a point at all!!, poor shot selection. I'd imagine this would've alot to do with the poor attendances we now see at games nowadays also coupled with the economic climate, you're hardly going to go save your money to support your county team when you're not going to be fully entertained!!!

oranmoreman (Galway) - Posts: 77 - 30/07/2010 10:17:55    729136

Gaelicmeath
County: Meath
Posts: 25

729117 Coonaught football is really bad iu think my under 14 team cud beat them ROFL

Query
How would the Galway minors have done against Meath seniors in 1966 or 2001? It just seemed so easy for the senior team. Maybe you'd have had a better chance if we'd sent out the minors.

Oggy (Galway) - Posts: 245 - 30/07/2010 12:12:05    729320

Oggy
County: Galway
Posts: 154

729320
Gaelicmeath
County: Meath
Posts: 25

729117 Coonaught football is really bad iu think my under 14 team cud beat them ROFL

Query
How would the Galway minors have done against Meath seniors in 1966 or 2001? It just seemed so easy for the senior team. Maybe you'd have had a better chance if we'd sent out the minors.

we are far better then you we cud win da all ireland while i dont even tink that ure left in da competition at all so what are you talkin about. I am here to talk gaa and not to be insulted so am ignorin u now.

Gaelicmeath (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 30/07/2010 12:38:58    729368

gaelicmeath - from what I can see it was you doing the insulting.
Meath are a great footballing county, with a great heritage, but Galway have more Celtic Crosses.

abhainn (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 30/07/2010 12:51:06    729397

Ignore gaelicmeath, its some other poster on a wind-up.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 30/07/2010 13:03:54    729435

abhainn
County: Galway
Posts: 267

729397
gaelicmeath - from what I can see it was you doing the insulting.
Meath are a great footballing county, with a great heritage, but Galway have more Celtic Crosses.

Dont know what u talkin about, we won sam maguires yous can keep celtic crosses we will win it this year too so u dont know what you are on about. keep to the horse racing as my dad said yous know nothins about gaa!!!! so am here to talk gaa u on black list too

Gaelicmeath (Meath) - Posts: 35 - 30/07/2010 13:05:47    729439

Teams from Connaught and Ulster to Make the Q/Fs in last 10 years

2009

thykingdomcome (Kerry) - Posts: 1206 - 30/07/2010 13:10:56    729452

My friend in Meath - a little consistency please. You reckoned your U-14 team would match some senior teams from the West. I asked about how Galway minors would have done against Meath in two finals given the rather one-sided nature of both games.

Oggy (Galway) - Posts: 245 - 30/07/2010 14:10:55    729575