The Tyrone team of the last decade has given us players like:

Brian McGuigan - at his best one of the most creative players of all time

Peter Canavan - hardly need to elaborate here

Owen Mulligan - Tyrone have had better footballers but this guy had attitude (in a good way), was off the cuff, exciting...

Ricey - tormentor in chief, a terrorizing forwards that were a foot and half bigger than him

the bearded crew in 2008 - unusual

I have not even started to mention the outstanding footballers like Kavanagh , Davy Harte, Philip Jordan, Conor Gormley and O'Neill. My point is Tyrone and boring are two words that do not belong in the same sentence. This team has been a breath of freshair for Gaelic Football. I hope Cork win the All-Ireland, if they don't I will be supporting Tyrone all the way. I hope Micky Harte wins another 3 or 4 All-Ireland for Tyrone

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/07/2010 22:04:31    718774

What are you talking about man! Now your an England supporter aswell. Is the Irish rugby team not worthy of your support?

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/07/2010 09:07:22    718798

You are right for once Patrique Tyrone do have 30 players on the pitch every game.How do you think we win so often?

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 22/07/2010 09:19:30    718809

omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 2037


Tyrone have scored 2-14, 0-14 and 1-14 in each of the games they played, an average of 17 points. Cork have played 4 games including one with extra time and have scored 0-15, 1-14, 1-19 (against Cavan!!) and 0-12. Thats an average of 16 points even allowing for an extra 20 minutes of football and playing probably one of the worst teams in Ireland (no offence Breffni and crew), but you played Kerry so we will allow that. I wouldn't mind what you have to say except you can't back it up. If Tyrone are scoring more than Cork and Tyrone are negative, what does that make Cork? Is defending properly not as important as attacking well? If having 15 players all able to pass, shoot and tackle is negative then I will have negative all day long.


That's very funny when you use Cavan as an example of playing a poor team. Are you forgetting you played Antrim? And playing Kerry twice is a lot tougher than playing Down and Monaghan. The 0-12 vs Wexford was played in terrible conditions. Those figures are insignificant.

I really think Tyrone fans are terrified of Cork. The semi final annhilation last year was a real turning point. Tyrone played their usual swarm game, so Cork adapted the same tactics. And they out-tyroned tyrone. Cork had the more skillfull players, so beating them at football wasn't an option. So basically there was no way to win. Cork beat Tyrone at their own game. It is both testiment to Cork, and niavety on their part that they keep trying to go toe to toe with Kerry playing football. It is an admirable approach, but they may be better served by adopting Tyrone's tactics that they performed so well that day.

I think the reason a lot of people have gripe with Tyrone is that they pioneered the changeover in the game from footballer to athlete. Suddenly fitness and strength were more important than skill and brains. They are also the emblem of the "puke" football era. That image in the semi final of 2003 where numerous Tyrone players repeatedly surrounded Dara O'Cinneaide, each getting their own seperate hits in (a foul), will live long in the memory as a sad day for the sport.

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 22/07/2010 09:19:54    718810

he's right lads. they are the most boring team to watch. I think its because, for all the effort they put in and all these "great players" they have, they still bring back 15 players in front of the goals. nearly fell asleep into my pint last sunday

Rhodejim (Offaly) - Posts: 2888 - 22/07/2010 09:28:20    718822

I cant see why anyone is trying to knock Tyrone saying they have 15 attackers and 15 defenders and that they are boring etc, etc. Tyrone are one of the best teams in the country at the moment who have a great work ethic and they have 15 superb players who are out on the pitch at any one time and have subs who are equally as good and can slot in no problem. They work hard and are tough men and play brilliantly as a team. Remember gaelic football is a team game and matches are won and lost on how the team plays and not on having 3 or 4 or 5 great skillful players. As the saying goes 'The team with the best players doesn't always win but the better team will win' Anyone knocking Tyrone are plain and simply just jealous!!!!! Just keep playing the way you are and whenever Meath get knocked out (might not this year) Tyrone will always have my support

Duffster (Meath) - Posts: 279 - 22/07/2010 09:42:54    718832

In reference to Patrique's original post, there are many flaws.

1 - England failed to win another title. Tyrone followed up their 2003 win, with wins in 2005 & 2008.
2 - England failed to improve their game. Tyrone adapted their defensive style of 2003, to actually beat Kerry at free flowing football in 2005.
3 - England did not have multiple scorers in games. Tyrone have corner backs who can score.
4 - England not only failed on the big stage, they also failed domestically in the 6 nations. Tyrone have Ulster titles.
5 - England have changed coach twice. Tyrone have the same coach for their three titles.
6 - England have failed in big games V their near neighbours since. Tyrone have beaten theirs.


A poor attempt at a wind up really.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 22/07/2010 09:59:45    718853

I don't understand the anti-Tyrone brigade. Some teams have copied their style and it looks awful, because they don't have the ability to do it. Tyrone, when they're on song, are a superb football team.

abhainn (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 22/07/2010 10:02:29    718856

Tyrone are class. Skillful, tough and cynical all rolled into one. Couldn't fault them.

jonny1951 (Mayo) - Posts: 1431 - 22/07/2010 10:28:12    718881

Patrique my old wind up friend, here's something you should read:

obsession -

-noun
1. the domination of one's thoughts or feelings by a persistent idea, image, desire, etc.
2. the idea, image, desire, feeling, etc., itself.
3. the state of being obsessed.
4. the act of obsessing.

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 22/07/2010 11:28:18    718961

jafallon
County: Galway
Posts: 250

That's very funny when you use Cavan as an example of playing a poor team. Are you forgetting you played Antrim? And playing Kerry twice is a lot tougher than playing Down and Monaghan. The 0-12 vs Wexford was played in terrible conditions. Those figures are insignificant.

I really think Tyrone fans are terrified of Cork. The semi final annhilation last year was a real turning point. Tyrone played their usual swarm game, so Cork adapted the same tactics. And they out-tyroned tyrone. Cork had the more skillfull players, so beating them at football wasn't an option. So basically there was no way to win. Cork beat Tyrone at their own game. It is both testiment to Cork, and niavety on their part that they keep trying to go toe to toe with Kerry playing football. It is an admirable approach, but they may be better served by adopting Tyrone's tactics that they performed so well that day.

I think the reason a lot of people have gripe with Tyrone is that they pioneered the changeover in the game from footballer to athlete. Suddenly fitness and strength were more important than skill and brains. They are also the emblem of the "puke" football era. That image in the semi final of 2003 where numerous Tyrone players repeatedly surrounded Dara O'Cinneaide, each getting their own seperate hits in (a foul), will live long in the memory as a sad day for the sport.

I would think that Antrim would take major exception to being compared to Cavan considering they took Kerry to 5 points last year. Down are a division 1 team and Monaghan are also division 1. Cavan and Wexford are Division 3 teams. They also played the second half with 14 men. As for the conditions against Wexford, did Kerry and Galway not put up a horse of a score in the pouring rain and Tyron and Dublin also put up something like 4-27 in an absolute downpour. My point is that a team that consistently puts up high scores such as Tyrone surely could not be considered as defensive and boring. As for being afraid of Cork, are you kidding? They are a good side and got the better of us last year fair enough, yet it was their physicality that bettered Tyrone that day, something which you seem to have a problem with. Fitness, strength, skill and brains are what Tyrone have and surely that is as important, perhaps more so than having just skill and brains. Tell me, what footballer playing for Tyrone would you suggest is not skilful and intelligent. As for Dara O'Se, you argument falls when you use the word separate. Any amount of men can tackle another man as long as they do so separately. Therefore it was not a foul as agreed by the ref on the day. Maybe you should continue with your nice pretty football without the tackling in Galway and continue to lose to heavyweights such as Wexford (no disrespect) at home. What in under of God are you going to do when Padraig Joyec packs it in

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 22/07/2010 12:32:41    719089

patrique
County: Antrim
Posts: 8882

718772 By the way, some of you from Tyrone should watch the team sometime, rather than read about them.

While they have 15 attackers, they also have 15 DEFENDERS.

Really, watch them sometime. once, that should be enough.

Bearing in mind that you admit to no longer watching Antrim hurlers then I think that you should refrain from commenting on them. Secondly, is that not the point in team games, all attack all defend? I know that is what I coach our young lads. Surley that is what the concept of total is all about, no?

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 22/07/2010 12:37:25    719101

Tea or coffee anyone ?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 22/07/2010 12:59:46    719158

latte for me dell ... any jaffa cakes there good lad

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 22/07/2010 13:15:11    719186

A great team like Tyrone are always there to be knocked down.

If the status quo of Kerry winning indefinitely continued uninterrupted, then (most) people would be content in that little comfort zone. The odd team coming along now and again and knocking them off their perch is okay, but how dare any team, especially a northern side, actually consistently beat them and look much better than them at certain times in the last 7/8 years!

A lot of people are unhappy that this sleeping football giant awoke in 2003 and is realising its potential since, is very confident and comes back to haunt its doubters time and again.

Tyrone, from what I know of their youth system, their fan base and their love and passion of the game, are going nowhere fast.

As for their footballing abilities (which are not actually really discussed behind a cloud of resentment and annoyance inherent in a lot of posters on here), Tyrone just do all the basic things right. Their kickpassing and ball retention is admirable. I didn't see anyone whinging about this attribute which the Spanish footballers had in the recent World Cup?

They annhilated a much-fancied Monaghan team despite hitting many wides, they will need to address this. Their basic defending skills are so impressive, if Donegal could defend as well I would be happy.

They are so confident in their own abilities, like Kerry, that they distribute the ball effectively into their forwards...Penrose, Mulligan, Cavanagh, Dooher..these guys have proved themselves in big games so often.

It is time to actually pick apart Tyrone's game-plan if you want to have a pop. Those who jump in with lazy insults are saying more about their own feelings towards Tyrone than what they can actually express about the team's abilities.

The person who started this thread is a joke merchant, plain and simple!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 22/07/2010 13:16:41    719189

Latte coming up and it is your turn for to but jaffa cakes , there is a reccession on you know.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 22/07/2010 13:19:28    719200

Tyrone play the best brand of football today. If you look at their stats in a match they have a very high number of accurate foot passes compared to others, despite being constantly blamed for introducing the over reliance on the handpass.
They are very accurate kickers, despite a larger number of wides than usual against Monaghan. This was epitomised in the first half by Ryan McMenamin waiting on the wing with the ball for about 10 seconds before playing it to Mugsy who laid if off to Gormley...point. Most other team's corner backs would have taken a stupid shot on and missed by a mile.
Each of their halfbacks scored and both midfielders - are we not constantly hearing that over relying on one player is a very poor tactic, like Bradley for Derry, Meehan for Galway etc. Tyrone are the masters of spreading scorers.
The defenders are excellent 1 on 1, never mind 15 defending. Cathal McCarron had a fantastic game, in what I think was his first championship start (definitely first season).
Tyrone are in fact the complete opposite of the England rubgy team.

Flanders (Galway) - Posts: 604 - 22/07/2010 13:26:31    719215

The obvious obsession that some posters outside of Tyrone have with the O'Neill County is really beginning to get tiresome at this stage, not to mention a bit sad.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 22/07/2010 13:28:50    719219

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 12024

719200 Latte coming up and it is your turn for to but jaffa cakes , there is a reccession on you know.
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Jaffa cakes with a Latte, boys you're showing our county up, no wonder respect for Tyrone is hard to come by these days;o)

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/07/2010 13:30:29    719222

I think it is very silly to accuse a team of trying to choke another team. Is that not the point of defending? What do people expect them to do? let opposing teams score for the sake of the spectacle? Tyrone actually play a very good style of football that is very interesting and entertaining to watch. It seems the problem others have with it is that they dont let their opponents do the same, which as I already said is the point of having a defence

orchard010 (Armagh) - Posts: 1 - 22/07/2010 13:55:28    719276