It seems It is no longer appropriate to take the heat out of a thread with a completely harmless comment
" suggestions about how to make money from orange tourists"

Let the venom continue

Omar.d (Cavan) - Posts: 1141 - 29/07/2010 19:10:18    728826

They should make as much money of it as they possibly can.Just do it in their own areas.Besides,I dont think the tourists really want to see people being beat of the Ormeau Road,Garvaghy Road.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 30/07/2010 18:36:35    730022

Have to agree about the Scottish Orangemen and bands. They are largely the lowest form of hateful bigoted sectarian knuckledraggers one can imagine and they come over to the North to find an outlet for this bile. Scotland is an extremely anti Irish and anti Catholic country, you only have to take a ferry crossing during July to 'experience' this. I wonder would Michael McDowell volunteer to chaperone some of these 'cultural' Loyalist tourists around Dublin seeing he wants to involve the South in these 'celebrations'? Maybe he could put a few hundred of them up for a few days in D4?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 30/07/2010 19:25:19    730058

The ship yards of 1920's Belfast was more tolerant of Catholics than some parts of modern day Scotland.

But these bigots would point out that their adhering to the sentiments of their Constitution, the British Constitution dicriminates against Catholics so why shouldn't they? At least this particular brand of bigot does not try to hide or sanitise his/her intolerance of Catholics.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 30/07/2010 20:32:26    730118

In Larkhall (in Scotland) all the traffic lights had to have grills put up around the green light because so many Loyal Sons were breaking them and efforts were made by some locals to change green signs in major stores like ASDA to blue. This is TRUE and has been well documented. I remember travelling up through Ayrshire (a notorious Loyalist part of Scotland) passing through wee towns and villages going to watch Celtic. We used to get bottles & bricks thrown at us and young and old alike would give us the finger and vile abuse. I like Scotland but the anti-Catholic and anti-Irish hatred is rife throughout the country and all facets of the state.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 30/07/2010 21:21:27    730173

ulsterman.
it is rife in scotland very ant-irish and catholic , and every 12th these thugs come over in their thousands upon our shores and drum up their hatred .
and what is the government suggested ... give them a bank holiday , do not make me puke , u are given them a licence to grow sectarian hatred against the natives of this country .

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 30/07/2010 21:28:20    730182

I live in edinburgh and people's face lights up with a smile when i say i'm irish. There are as much irish on the streets as english. Yesterday i walked past a guy arguing with his wife as gaeilge. Glasgow is different. i was off the train 5 minutes when i was asked what religion i was when it's plain as day what i am through my accent. it was the first time i experienced prejudice to be honest. that's their sad opinion.

I've been up the highlands a good bit and even though some of them are holier than thou, if they're rascist they didn't show it.

They march over here as well. To be honest they're laughed at and if you march it's because you're a seriously rough guy. It's basically football hooligans dressed up with musical instruments.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 31/07/2010 10:28:41    730321

seanie_boy
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.The only problem they would have then is that the whole thing becomes pointless and no fun for them.Their membership is dwindling every year anyway,young people are no longer drawn in from the unionist/protestant community like they were in the recent past.Hope this trend continues.


Good man Seanie, you are startng to catch on.

I was still writing for a paper back during Drumcree and in 1996 when all the press was about people being beaten off the road my headline was "Massive Victory for Sinn Fein". Many did not understand.

By 1999 they understood. At the start of Drumcree Sinn Fein had a 0.4% share of the vote. By the end they had 20.4% and that is what Drumcree was all about. Part of the carefully planned peace process, to illustrate how intransigent some Unionists were, and how nice Sinn Fein could be.

A massive success, and so beautifully simple and subtle that many on both sides never caught on what was happening.

I think it was around 1999 when the authorities sent Johnny Adair to Drumcree to ensure there would be no further protest as 90% of Orangemen see themselves as God Fearing people and wanted nothing to do with the like of Johnny. So Sinn Fein had been established as a major player, and hard line unionism discredited. Mission accomplished.

Then a few years later the Holy Cross was manufactured to finish off the hard line Unionists and to this day many cannot believe that the idiots fell for it. I mean, a GIRL's PRIMARY school. Total idiots, walked right into it.

So today in most areas the marches, flags, and such are well controlled.

We need to manufacture the odd spot of trouble to remind people of how bad things used to be but by and large the war was won long ago and we are now applying the finishing touches.

However it is essential that nationalists appear to be good guys and moderates, as opposed to intransigent loyalist hangers on who attach themselves to parades.

That way lies total success, as was always the intention.

The final

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 31/07/2010 13:36:20    730460

Why thankyou! I think?

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 01/08/2010 09:40:22    731154

01/08/2010 09:40:22
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731154
Why thankyou! I think?




Don't mention it.

Just remember that in the eyes of the world we are the "good guy" and intransigent loyalists are the "baddies".

we need to keep it that way by not over reacting to provocation.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 01/08/2010 13:22:58    731356