Something very similar happened in a Junior final 2 years ago in Galway. One player had his arms held behind his back while 2 others bet the **** out of him. Your man was hospitalised, broken jaw and several other injuries, eating out of a tube for 2 weeks. Gaurdai of course were involved but the case was settled out of court (was originally planned to be taken to court), rumour was that the injured party received €12,000. I think a 3 year ban was also imposed by the club of the thugs. Can't imagine the Gaurdai not getting involved in this case. Absolute disgrace. Best wishes to the young lad.

Throw_it_over I can't imagine the Gardai getting involved either considering it happened in the North, but either way the PSNI should most definitely be involved here, and whoever carried out this mindless thuggery, should be prosectuted and hopefully jailed, suspended from the GAA for life, and have to pay all of this young man's medical bills for life. A few digs in the rib or the odd sly punch is sadly part and parcel of most GAA matches, but what happened here is disgusting, and cannot allowed to go unpunished by the Civil authorities.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 17/06/2010 10:50:49    679787

This is disgusting, with those injuries its like he was hit with a baseball bat.

Redfoot (Cork) - Posts: 388 - 17/06/2010 11:02:40    679800

derfil1
County: Kildare
Posts: 809

679624 Thats Northern football for you. They breed them young to behave like that up there. Best of luck and hope he recovers in full.
16/06/2010 21:28:15
SuperCats
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 79

679649 I've seen club football up north at underage level and i can assure you it aint a pretty sight. Not surprised something like this happened.


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Two rediculous posts. This kind of incident is not the norm in Down or the rest of Ulster. Who do you pair think you are?

This is a terrible assault that unfortunitely happens from time to time but it is just as likely to happen in any county as in Armagh.

The policy in our club is that any juvenile player who gets involved in any kind of altercation with the opposition is taken off immediately. We coach our young players to play fotball not to fight.

The record of Ulster Minor & U21 football teams in recent years bears out the fact the juvenile standard in the north is very high. Higher than the standards in Kildare & Kilkenny definitely!

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 17/06/2010 11:58:47    679889

tom, it doesnt matter if he WAS a 'decent' person.. would a decent person do this? the player should be locked up regardless of their history!! if hes such a decent lad he'll get out on parole quickly then..! gaa need to give decent compensation to kevin and he should also sue this thug. s***bag

madden (Kildare) - Posts: 293 - 17/06/2010 12:01:48    679896

gilly2308
County: Galway
Posts: 416

679787 Something very similar happened in a Junior final 2 years ago in Galway. One player had his arms held behind his back while 2 others bet the **** out of him. Your man was hospitalised, broken jaw and several other injuries, eating out of a tube for 2 weeks. Gaurdai of course were involved but the case was settled out of court (was originally planned to be taken to court), rumour was that the injured party received €12,000. I think a 3 year ban was also imposed by the club of the thugs. Can't imagine the Gaurdai not getting involved in this case. Absolute disgrace. Best wishes to the young lad.

Throw_it_over I can't imagine the Gardai getting involved either considering it happened in the North, but either way the PSNI should most definitely be involved here, and whoever carried out this mindless thuggery, should be prosectuted and hopefully jailed, suspended from the GAA for life, and have to pay all of this young man's medical bills for life. A few digs in the rib or the odd sly punch is sadly part and parcel of most GAA matches, but what happened here is disgusting, and cannot allowed to go unpunished by the Civil authorities.

This happened in Pearse Stadium on the 12/10/08 and the victim was from the Arann Islands, I forget who the offending team was but I know for a fact the Gaurdaí were involved. I remember so well because I was actual involved in the match after and I personally know the detective that was doing the case.

throw_it_over (Galway) - Posts: 769 - 17/06/2010 12:13:45    679916

It a disgrace what has happened to Kevin Nugent I just hope the Armagh Co Board deal with this promptly and punish the player and the club.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1792 - 17/06/2010 12:29:58    679949

I dont think anyone is in a position to comment unless you were at the match and saw what happened for yourselves.
This could have been one single punch for all we know and unfortunately it has done a tremendous amount damage or it could have been a succession of punches and kicks, certainly not many on here would know the full facts, if any at all.
So to condemn someone without knowing the facts is frankly wrong.
I dont know either party involved in this, i dont know what happened therefore i cant comment.
I will say i wish Kevin Nugent a speedy recovery and hope not to hear about any person sustaining injuries like this in any GAA match ever again.

bosch (Derry) - Posts: 873 - 17/06/2010 12:36:33    679959

sorry gilly, misread your comment. thought you were referring to North Board.....:-P

throw_it_over (Galway) - Posts: 769 - 17/06/2010 12:44:24    679978

Police getting involved wrecks the game of Gaelic so hopefully it doesnt go to the police.
Massive ban for the suspect.
Best wishes to Kevin!

wiseman8 (Tyrone) - Posts: 288 - 17/06/2010 14:51:08    680155

Its true enough discipline in Down is terrible. I remember a young under age player teling me he was whacked 7 times in the whole season not so long ago. Its not uncommon to see loads of reds in matches in Down anyway and seems to be that way in the rest of Ulster too.

Atticalllegends (Down) - Posts: 96 - 17/06/2010 15:05:01    680175

This also happened only couple of miles away in a south monaghan club last year . A manager got his jaw broke while training of the ball cause he didnt play a player in a certain game . This player got a 78 week ban when appealed it was reduced 8 weeks from the monaghan county board . He now has a transfer request in to culloville .

In my beleive so called players like this should be banned from football for life it may seem a bit harsh but we all go to see football not players being mained on the pitch .

I wish Kevin all the best and hope he makes a speedy full recovery from the reports i hear he is a talented player with a great future ahead of him

bing_bong (Monaghan) - Posts: 53 - 17/06/2010 15:07:24    680180

not agreeing with Pomeroy but getting the Police involved is a step too far. The GAA should with deal with it and his own people if they have any decency. As for people slating Tom1916 abut him saying he is a decent lad, he very well may be, any of ye's that has never had a rush of blood to the head cast the first stone and I am only talking to people that have played serious football here.

Overall best of luck in your recovery son and I hope you wear the iconic shirt of Armagh proudly many more times. Best of luck and I mean that.

One love from the shores of Lough Neagh.

CheFinny (UK) - Posts: 1358 - 17/06/2010 18:29:43    680421

It seems its all northern guys who are against getting the police involved. Maybe this is due to the historical distrust of the RUC/PSNI.

Lebowski (Meath) - Posts: 363 - 17/06/2010 19:04:43    680446

Horrendous stuff - can someone please give a vague idea of what happended??

We've probably all struck a player at some stage of our careers - but this seems it must have been more than just 1 strike.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 17/06/2010 19:34:48    680466

When somebody is killed - and this young man received injuries that could have led to a tragedy - then and only then will people stop talking about bans etc.

Lock these people up for 20 years. NOW.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2928 - 17/06/2010 20:57:52    680545

Hopefully not in car boots sponger then driving them into the Wicklow mountains. Did that really happen to a ref in Wicklow?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 17/06/2010 21:04:20    680558

Yes it did happen. Thats why we always get so many frees in Aughrim.......

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2928 - 17/06/2010 21:28:20    680590

wiseman8
County: Tyrone
Posts: 239

680155 Police getting involved wrecks the game of Gaelic so hopefully it doesnt go to the police.
Massive ban for the suspect.
Best wishes to Kevin!



Violent conduct / brutal assault wrecks the game. Notice the coverage it got on the news?. When was the last time a club game featured for something positive?
Any of you men still playing prepared to feed through a straw, for months, for sixty minutes of football? There are men who have broken players jaws turning out for their clubs all over the country, with the full support of their club.
Facial injuries are becoming very common in GAA matches. The message needs to get through that the GAA will not stand for that sort of conduct.

redandblackgaa (Tyrone) - Posts: 251 - 17/06/2010 21:47:27    680612

jaysus da man that did that to Kevin Nugent should definetly get a lifetime ban!!!

jambread (Cork) - Posts: 307 - 18/06/2010 10:02:43    680734

Disgrace is the word that sprung to mind when i read the article on BBC on Tuesday.... hopefully swift action can be taken by the GAA and the police if the young lad wants to press charges. One question to pose : do you think that if this lad hadnt played county minor football and won an all-lreland the cover on the BBC and RTE websites would have been the same, reason why I am saying this is that I am aware of cases involving less talented players in snr and reserve games who have suffered similar injuries due to the level of thuggary and it has only been mentioned within small circles in their own county.... This case and the subsequent posts on this forum highlight that this is not a once in blue moon occurance its something that has happening far too often in the game and a precendence needs to be set to deter or prevent it from happening again. One of the incidents i mentioned earlier invloved my own club and the young lad involved did call the police to investigate but the due to lack of clear evidence (they called it conflicting evidence) and the other club involved protecting their own player all charges were dropped.

I think that all clubs should video all snr and reserve games at their home ground, and if this happens to a player of their then the evidence is clear, now i am sure that it happens off the ball then it might not to captured on tape but the thought of being recorded should deter any player to strike out voilently and cause the same injuries.

spanner (Tyrone) - Posts: 29 - 18/06/2010 11:28:20    680832