the offending player should never play again.

bangedupabroad (Roscommon) - Posts: 126 - 16/06/2010 18:28:46    679444

PP is a disgrace, and admin should not allow his drivel on - I, like him, have been on the receiving and sometimes giving side of conduct I shouldn't have been, but there is a world of difference between knocking someone down and knocking someone onto a hospital bed who now cannot eat solids. Get a bit of perspective. If this kind of stuff was allowed or supported by more idiots like you I'd turn my back on the GAA in the morning. There's just no place for it in our society, never mind in our organisation.

abhainn (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 16/06/2010 18:35:18    679447

I too don't believe that incidents on the pitch should be the subject of criminal investigations or any legal route for that matter. That said the level of harm inflicted on Nugent warrants such an approach. I am a dual player and understand that I can expect physical altercations on the pitch and perhaps injuries which could rule me out of playing for a temporary period. I have been hospitalised after a rash challenge, needed 14 stitches and was admitted for only an hour or two with facial injuries. I consent to that as a player, but I do not consent to being on the recieving or giving end of GBH that in no way can be seen as part and parcel of an otherwise manly game.

unwashed_great (Antrim) - Posts: 4 - 16/06/2010 19:15:57    679488

PP you are a first class idiot,punching,elbows and scuffles happens in matches which we expect from time to time but this is nothing less than GBH and has no place in our game.

DL (Donegal) - Posts: 210 - 16/06/2010 19:51:11    679532

im not trying to wind tings up an i agree with all thats been said except the police should not be involved, but like the zidane incident(just an example) he was wound up so you dont no the facts untill the two sides of the story are told.

dj27legend (Down) - Posts: 641 - 16/06/2010 19:55:40    679538

From the experience of a friend, sadly it seems to be that the GAA, or at least the Ulster Council, are completely incompetent when it comes to these dealings of serious injury. Best of luck to the recovery of the player and hopefully the assailant(s) will be caught and have a punishment

spiderpig123 (Down) - Posts: 175 - 16/06/2010 19:59:41    679543

A long time ago i would have agreed that incidents of assault like this should be dealt with by the G.A.A. authorities but because they were dealt with too leniently by those same authorities they continued and got actually worse in many cases. The perpetrators knew they would get a mickey mouse ban and be treated leniently. Now i believe that using the law of the land to stamp out these acts of thuggery is the only way to get the message through. Imagine how you would feel if your son who is young and a very good footballer had to eat through a straw for 4/5 months. We should not tolerate this !! If it was accidental then it was just a case of hard luck but if it was an assault it should be reported !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 16/06/2010 20:03:26    679550

Something very similar happened in a Junior final 2 years ago in Galway. One player had his arms held behind his back while 2 others bet the **** out of him. Your man was hospitalised, broken jaw and several other injuries, eating out of a tube for 2 weeks. Gaurdai of course were involved but the case was settled out of court (was originally planned to be taken to court), rumour was that the injured party received €12,000. I think a 3 year ban was also imposed by the club of the thugs. Can't imagine the Gaurdai not getting involved in this case. Absolute disgrace. Best wishes to the young lad.

throw_it_over (Galway) - Posts: 769 - 16/06/2010 20:52:46    679607

First of all, I hope young Kevin Nugent fully recovers & manages to play to the same high levels again.

Until such times as gaels leave their club & county bias aside, before commenting on assaults like this, the issue will never be resolved. Punching, gouging, elbowing in the face, etc., etc. can never be justified - no matter who did it or what the provocation was. It doesn't take a sustained attack - one punch is all it takes to break a man's jaw! How many times have we seen county players seriously injured in club matches by the local 'hard man' wanting to take out the county man?

A former colleague of mine was on the County U21 panel, before getting punched (one clean punch from the opposition) in a club match, resulting in a broken jaw & food through a straw for four months. He never played county ball again. Attacks like these cannot be justified in any form. Ultimately, we are talking about peoples lives here. A young fella goes out to play ball, not to end up in hospital. There is a huge difference between playing a hard game of football and being assaulted. If you punch (or similarly strike) it should result in a lengthy ban (I suggest twelve months), whether caught by referee or camera. All assaults should be investigated, whether raised by the Sunday Game or not.

On the topic of bringing in the police - if the proper penalties and sanctions are brought in, these attacks will end. It is up to gaels across the country (and worldwide) to require their County Boards to bring in new, less lenient penalties for these attacks.

Lastly, on the issue of clubs not complying with investigations into incidents, the response is simple - comply or the club is out of the competition for this year!

Get well soon Kevin.

tyghan_exile (Tyrone) - Posts: 20 - 16/06/2010 20:55:22    679610

Thats Northern football for you. They breed them young to behave like that up there. Best of luck and hope he recovers in full.

derfil1 (Kildare) - Posts: 1612 - 16/06/2010 21:10:44    679624

I've seen club football up north at underage level and i can assure you it aint a pretty sight. Not surprised something like this happened.

SuperCats (Kilkenny) - Posts: 101 - 16/06/2010 21:28:15    679649

I am amazed by that clown PP I really am, I really hope the offender is identified quickly and never allowed into a GAA ground/facility again let alone onto a pitch, the scale of the injuries is horrific and the level of intent needed to cause such harm is frightening. I hope he recovers quickly and is able to show his skills on the field again.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3747 - 16/06/2010 21:52:52    679681

i play alongside kevin, and have dont for the past 5 years. for something like this to happen to him is unbelievable, i know for a fact that kevin would not have stirred things up between him and the other player. the game was in the last few minutes, we were up by 5 or 6 points, what would the need to start a fight be? and especially not by kevin. as far as i can recal it was a substitute that came on and did it to him. the whole club is shocked with what happened, and its a disgrace to the cullavile club.

a 3-6 month bann? not a chance. the ''player'' should never be allowed on the pitch again, and infact, should be behind bars. it wouldnt be acceptable on the street, so why should it be acceptable on the pitch.

magherySMD (Armagh) - Posts: 1 - 16/06/2010 21:54:05    679682

The person or persons that done this disgusting act on this young footballer should be banned for life,not let near a pitch or sporting event again.A prison sentence would not do any harm,if the injured person has to eat throught a straw for four months, then four months justice should be served on those who done this.Get well soon kevin.

hardcore (Monaghan) - Posts: 1366 - 16/06/2010 21:57:11    679687

derfil1 read this

throw_it_over
County: Galway
Posts: 155

679607 Something very similar happened in a Junior final 2 years ago in Galway. One player had his arms held behind his back while 2 others bet the **** out of him. Your man was hospitalised, broken jaw and several other injuries, eating out of a tube for 2 weeks. Gaurdai of course were involved but the case was settled out of court (was originally planned to be taken to court), rumour was that the injured party received €12,000. I think a 3 year ban was also imposed by the club of the thugs. Can't imagine the Gaurdai not getting involved in this case. Absolute disgrace. Best wishes to the young lad.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 17/06/2010 08:36:29    679703

who does this chap think he is?id make sure he never played again and pull my club out of all county matches
until justice is served...its a tough game and im all for hard but fair football.
at the end of the day were all GAELS!!!

the seal (Meath) - Posts: 583 - 17/06/2010 09:26:28    679727

I hope young Kevin Nugent makes a full recovery from his injuries,and that the culpret and his club are dealt with severely.

There is no place for this in our games.Unfortunetly there is a lot of this going on,I was at senior Dublin club game two weeks ago and the same carry on from one of the corner backs.He was getting destroyed and all he could do was to try and punch the head off his opponent,not once did any menber of his team OR management tell him to stop(his man scored 4 points all from play).This is arampent problem,there is a big differance between physicality and thuggery.

bistokid (Dublin) - Posts: 65 - 17/06/2010 09:29:11    679730

A substantial jail term would be given out in a normal society.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2928 - 17/06/2010 09:39:56    679738

derfil1
County: Kildare
Posts: 809

679624 Thats Northern football for you. They breed them young to behave like that up there. Best of luck and hope he recovers in full.
16/06/2010 21:28:15
SuperCats
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 79

679649 I've seen club football up north at underage level and i can assure you it aint a pretty sight. Not surprised something like this happened.

Ye are just lucky nobody has ever thrown punches where ye are...

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12299 - 17/06/2010 10:21:31    679767

Terrible incident. My thoughts are with the young lad and his family.

I only ever attend hurling matches at club level and thankfully this isn't a problem. I do hear of some ugly incidents at football games though, and a friend of mine from Kerry was just recently saying that some match he was at degenerated into flaking. It has to stop. As somebody above pointed out, it probably begins with all of us taking off the rose tinted glasses and ensuring that thugary from players within our own club is not tolerated by the club.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 17/06/2010 10:22:12    679769