Hibs were also formed by Irishmen, why don't people support them if Irishness is your reason for supporting a football club? It's simple glory-hunting as well, given the choice between two British teams with Irish roots the majority of people support Celtic as they are the team with the European Cup and countless league titles. It could be argued that Hibs are more Irish than Celtic, they were founded before Celtic were and in fact Celtic were formed as they were inspired by the example of Hibs. James Connolly was also a Hibs fan. But Hibs only have a few league titles and have had no success in Europe so for the bar stoolers Celtic are the real Irish British club. You'll also find most Celtic fans over here are also United or Liverpool fans, glory-hunting runs in the blood you see

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 08/04/2010 10:46:11    611400

GLASGOW Celtic Athletic and Football Club are about as Irish as Yorkshire Pork Pies.
They are a British team, playing in a British league, in Britain.
Celtic are British. 100%. Everybit as BRITISH as GLASGOW Rangers FC.

Mikeynora (Limerick) - Posts: 888 - 08/04/2010 11:06:36    611426

People are into English bands, movies, football teams etc. etc. because the Irish versions of these are so bad it's not even funny. also there might be Irish people in these teams and all these teams speak English and their matches are broadcast more to Irish people than, say, Spanish football. It doesn't mean that Irish people love England.

PRDY (Mayo) - Posts: 141 - 08/04/2010 11:40:32    611459

32_4_1
County: Meath
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611235 because i like the cause which barca represent and their philosophy in which they play the game.

and i like the fact celtic are still proud of their irish roots and celebrate it, and many of their fans still consider themselves irish and support ireland.

i also like ajax and their philosophy in which they too try and play the game.

although i support none

can nobody else have the same philosophy but with different teams?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 08/04/2010 11:49:01    611475

so by the same logic you consider yourself british pomery, since you insist on calling celtic british. what not keep calliing them scottish. same with you mikeynora. you obviously consider your fellow irishmen up north british too. i assume you's also considered every irishman who died for irelands freedom while in the uk british also. celtic are an amazing success story of our fellow country man and kept going by his diaspora. all set up to help other starving irishmen and woman who were nearly dieing in glasgow. it always annoys me so many "irishmen" will continually degrade this club, just so they can feel better about gloryhunting some english team.

and if anyone knew anything about football, uk/british terminology is not recognised in football. so they are a scottish football team. but i wonder if any of you's were to go over to england today and set up a business, would you's consider it british?

"same teams"


like ajax breffini. i even had a soft spot for west brom while in the premiership

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 13:16:53    611634

Breffni39
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611124
Patrique, if its entirely, sorry ENTIRELY based on winning, why do you support Man City?


It does say people by and large, and I am a cut above "most" people.

Also I started supporting City when they won Division 2 in 1966 captained by family friend John Crossan.

Also this year they look like being as successful as Man United, being part of the top 4.

Unless you want to start a thread about United winning the...er...em...League Cup.

I dare you.

SNIGGER.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 08/04/2010 13:18:34    611639

Well historically zaragoza attempted to play the open football barca do, although they were not as successful. Hibs are the original irish side in scotland. So why didnt you choose either of them?
Man Utd also have a philosophy of attacking football from the first day they started, so why the dislike for them?

Dont be fooling urself, because ur fooling nobody else

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 08/04/2010 13:40:18    611682

ill well wish anyone who tries to play good football master. did u not see the west brom comment. of course not. the reason you'd probably assume i prefer barca, is because barca comes up alot. and ill join in the conversation. i also would rather them to zaragoza because of the cause they represent for catalonia. i would prefer celtic to hibs, as they continue to celebrate their irish roots, unlike hibs. although id love to see hibs win the spl.

ive never liked united or madrid because ive always seen them as manufactured commercialesed business' first and foremost, behind the scenes more interested in turning over profits and marketing the united or madrid "brand" as big as possible around the world.

anyway ive always seen united "good football" as over rated in the last 3 or 4 years. i dont see how its good football at all. direct and boring from what i see

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 15:22:35    611853

Mikeynora
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611426 GLASGOW Celtic Athletic and Football Club

they arnt called glasgow cletic athletic and football club. the are called THE CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB (1888)

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 15:27:41    611862

32_4_1
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611853 ill well wish anyone who tries to play good football master. did u not see the west brom comment. of course not. the reason you'd probably assume i prefer barca, is because barca comes up alot. and ill join in the conversation. i also would rather them to zaragoza because of the cause they represent for catalonia. i would prefer celtic to hibs, as they continue to celebrate their irish roots, unlike hibs. although id love to see hibs win the spl.

ive never liked united or madrid because ive always seen them as manufactured commercialesed business' first and foremost, behind the scenes more interested in turning over profits and marketing the united or madrid "brand" as big as possible around the world.


Yeah well Barca's player wages are significantly higher than Utd's so the corporate bull that you spout is rubbish, like everything else. No doubt you will twist this fact to actually reflect well on Barca such is the complete abscence of logical thought in your posts

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 08/04/2010 15:40:53    611898

I'm sorry but how is anyone who supports any team that play attractive, successful football not a glory hunter exactly? I liked the 'I supported WBA when they were in the Premiership' comment as well, obviously once they got relegated you decided they weren't the team for you. And British/Scottish or whatever Celtic certainly aren't Irish. And shame on Hibs for having the audacity to play down their Irishness, heaven forbid a Scottish team would consider itself Scottish

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 08/04/2010 15:59:54    611938

well maybe thats because they can afford if bref due to their policy of bringing up as many under age players from their youth ranks as possible. bar one of two players thye vary rarly go an spend large amounts of money on transfers. this could be put into wages. also they get a lot of money of the fans. they are in debt but while united and madrid are squeezing out every last penny from everything they are putting a hell of a lot of money in unicef. barca is not marketed around the world (especially in the asian countrys) like united and madrid. barca is owned by the fans. united is owned by the highest bidder. says it all. barca are a true team thats loved all over the world by the neutrals. everyone admires them

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 16:08:35    611953

let hibs be scottish all they want. i've no problem with that. im just saying why i prefer celtic. so is there a problem with that reasoning. im irish. they support their roots and celebrate them.

i only got to see wba while they played in the premiership. im not the english leagues biggest fan so i hardly see a lot of the 2nd tier games, now would i. they let mowbray go after they were relegated so stopped playing that football once they left the premiership anyhow. they probably played nice football before they came up so i respect that aswell, i just didnt really notice it until they came up.

and no i didnt "support" wba as im not from the west midlands, nor do i have any connection in the slightest to it

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 16:30:08    611989

32_4_1
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611953 well maybe thats because they can afford if bref due to their policy of bringing up as many under age players from their youth ranks as possible. bar one of two players thye vary rarly go an spend large amounts of money on transfers. this could be put into wages. also they get a lot of money of the fans. they are in debt but while united and madrid are squeezing out every last penny from everything they are putting a hell of a lot of money in unicef. barca is not marketed around the world (especially in the asian countrys) like united and madrid. barca is owned by the fans. united is owned by the highest bidder. says it all. barca are a true team thats loved all over the world by the neutrals. everyone admires them

Yes, that is exactly how the real world works.

Its a waste of time with you but...United do exactly the same thing - they bring on young players from their youth ranks, exactly like Barca, and spend large amounts on occasion, exactly like Barca. However, they are English, unlike Barca, so you hate them, and Alex Ferguson is a disgraceful racist.....

You have no comprehension of reality mate.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 08/04/2010 16:40:03    612004

like macheda???. robing him at 17 and calling him home grown?? dont think so

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 17:06:43    612070

08/04/2010 15:40:53
Breffni39
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Yeah well Barca's player wages are significantly higher than Utd's


Not too sure about that Breffni. Technically yes, but United tried to be clever and went down the "image rights" path, probably after they lost Shearer to Newcastle because they were paying image rights and United were not.

This works as follows. I tell Rooney I will pay him £100,000 a week, but also he gets £20,000 a week on image rights, as the club reckoned these were tax free.

Alas HMRC don't think so and the club are due in court soon.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 08/04/2010 17:08:56    612076

like Messi???. robing him at 15 and calling him home grown?? dont think so

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 08/04/2010 17:15:23    612089

32_4_1
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612070 like macheda???. robing him at 17 and calling him home grown?? dont think so

Exactly, just like Messi

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 08/04/2010 17:15:51    612091

I know how image rights work and guess what they exist in Spain too, and will be more relevant there considering the Spanish tax loophole has been closed

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12483 - 08/04/2010 17:21:30    612104

messi was 11. massive difference. he came up through the ranks, hence home grown

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4202 - 08/04/2010 20:14:43    612347