can anyone tell me how teams who end up equal on league points are seperated? Is it on scoring difference or the head to head result?

DubsExileInNaas (Dublin) - Posts: 171 - 28/03/2010 21:53:49    601811

Head to head result, then scoring difference if the head to head result was a draw. There haven't many draws in the League this year.

ajdoyle78 (Down) - Posts: 520 - 29/03/2010 08:56:35    601843

the last few years it has been scoring difference as far as i can remember.

nok02 (USA) - Posts: 534 - 29/03/2010 09:28:43    601869

Head to head result. Thus if Dublin beat Tyrone and Cork beat Mayo, Dublin go into the final. Unfortunately it is unlikely to come to that. Also leaves hurlers in slightly dodgier position than might have been the case. Assuming we don't beat Galway and that Cats beat Limerick, then Limerick could stay up by beating us in Parnell.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 29/03/2010 09:40:45    601874

I believe the score difference will come into play first in the event of both ending up on the same points and only in the case where the score difference is equal will the head to head result come into play. Dublin are 7 points worse off in the scoring differences so provided the results go in Dublin's favour there needs to be some combination of a 7 point swing for the head to head result to come into play.

Diego (Meath) - Posts: 1205 - 29/03/2010 11:14:34    601975

Other way around Diego. If Dublin and Mayo for example both finish on ten points then Dublin go into final because they have beaten them.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 29/03/2010 11:43:29    602013

I think you're right hurlingdub. See "Harte hits out at rule change". Also, Tony Davis on Sunday Sport alluded to this system being the one currently in force.
On another topic, though a related one, the hurling Dubs have got themselves into a spot of bother. Are Limerick coming good at just the right / wrong time?

DubsExileInNaas (Dublin) - Posts: 171 - 29/03/2010 12:21:15    602075

I agree with Mickey Harte on this one. It should be decided on points difference not head to head. Why is the league decided over 7 matches, yet any teams level on points are separated by the outcome of just one match rather than all seven. Tis wrong.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 29/03/2010 12:33:57    602104

Should be on points difference in fairness. Regarding our hurlers, it is a bit worrying that they are going into last game having to win but they should in fairness beat Limerick. They have been good at home and could have beaten both the Cats and Cork. Waterford and Offaly games were disappointing. Still, Ill be happy with a win over Limerick and another year in Div I.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 29/03/2010 12:55:03    602183

Yes I stand corrected at this point. From talking to an intercounty player last week he was of the belief that score difference was the primary factor. He was off the impression that due to Meath's inferior points difference that even winning the last 2 games wouldn't necessarily mean promotion to Div 1. As it turns out results from the weekend have changed that scenario but I just wonder if the rules were set out in stone before the competition would some teams have a slightly different attitude to the latter league games.
From reports out today this seems to be a very recent rule change. I just wonder what brought around this sudden change? Ireland complained to FIFA for changing the seedings rule before the recent worldcup playoffs which was done to suit certain teams and now it looks like the GAA have done something similar.

By the way, I can see several topics appearing from the Mayo posters over the next 2 weeks!

Diego (Meath) - Posts: 1205 - 29/03/2010 13:27:22    602250

gaa changed the rule, head to head it is. mayo will probably finish second but still might not be in the league final. thanks gaa

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11583 - 29/03/2010 13:37:08    602273

Its decided by the following.

If two teams involved - The result between the two teams is the decisive factor. If a draw, score difference

If three or more teams involved - Then it goes down to score difference.

datsrite (Sligo) - Posts: 473 - 29/03/2010 13:37:54    602275

so for example if Sligo and Wexford lose next week and Cavan win all three teams are on 8 so Cavan would go up

ochonlir (Cavan) - Posts: 4343 - 29/03/2010 14:06:50    602353

So those that mean we are already in the final cause we beat Dublin? Is this for certain?

rebeltrev (Cork) - Posts: 344 - 29/03/2010 14:12:57    602368

Where two teams finish joint second it should be decided on Scoring Difference first and then if still the same on Head-to-Head !! This would make more sense and encourage teams into attack-minded football The G.A.A. seem to have chosen the wrong option again imo !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 29/03/2010 14:13:07    602370

Diego you have a good point there, Mayo supporters may be getting very upset in the coming weeks if they do not manage at least a draw against Cork! However in other ways it is fair enough, Mayo did not beat Dublin so logically it sounds fair to send Dublin through under these circumstances! But in other ways it may be a bad system as it can heavily penalize a team for one bad day at the office. On the positive side for Mayo they have to play Cork last, who I think im right in saying are definitely in the final, and may not be as focused as they were when they played Dublin.

tj09 (Cork) - Posts: 481 - 29/03/2010 14:45:24    602448

Does all this mean that the Mayo and Cork Co. Boards might come to an "arrangement" for their last game - against each other!! Just in case dublin might win in Omagh

DubsExileInNaas (Dublin) - Posts: 171 - 29/03/2010 15:05:53    602504

If Mayo beat Cork and Dublin beat Tyrone then it will be decided on points difference! That would mean Mayo definitely go through as they superior points difference to Cork and if Cork lost by say four and Dublin won by three then Dublin would go into final so they do have a lot to play for!!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 29/03/2010 15:30:45    602552

Once again the gaa changing the rules as they go along .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 29/03/2010 17:35:39    602836

Dell,

and to spite Tyrone it seems according to Mickey Harte !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 29/03/2010 18:23:53    602951