O'Gara or Sexton?

biffo1 (Cavan) - Posts: 148 - 14/03/2010 18:22:37    587750

Sexton, as he can create.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 14/03/2010 20:26:19    587909

ROG everyday of the week

DJ78 (Derry) - Posts: 51 - 14/03/2010 20:27:06    587910

rog

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13656 - 14/03/2010 20:54:11    587959

Sexton

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12485 - 15/03/2010 10:01:45    588118

From open play Sexton is undoubtably better and he will create more. His kicking is a big worry though at the minute and you can't get away with some of the misses he has had. For years Scotland have found a place for Chris Paterson who is mediocre at best but is the best place-kicker in World Rugby. For this reason O'Gara should play in Ireland's big matches, it will limit what we create but he currently is a lot more reliable with the boot

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 15/03/2010 11:00:31    588176

O'Gara

Plastic Paddy (Tyrone) - Posts: 664 - 15/03/2010 11:19:47    588212

People are conveniently forgetting here that ROG's kicking for the last 12 months has been patchy at best and against the Dragons last week it was woeful
Its not like we have Diego Domingues waiting in the wings!
Look I am am huge Munster fan, and ROG is a "ligind" but Sexton offers a lot more in open play, is an infinately better tackler and with a WC in the offing.....leave him there
Plus the "Killer Bees" will target Rog if he plays, if Sexton plays he negates that threat to a large extent.

Rog is some sub all the same

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8170 - 15/03/2010 11:20:38    588216

O'Gara hands down

Sexton does not add enough creativity to make up for his terrible kicking and decision making. people seem to think O'Gara isnt creative but in fact he is one of the best passers of a ball from out half in world rugby, he chips alot and utilises the crossfield kick. Creativity isnt just running the ball everytime you get it, its about gile and having a good head on your shoulders especially in pressure situations and AT THE MOMENT Sexton is inferior, he needs another season in the H-cup i think before he should be considered a challenger for ROG's 10 shirt

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 15/03/2010 11:27:21    588223

Sexton can tackle, run, pass and create better than O'Gara, O'Gara can kick better than Sexton from the ground and out of hand so it just depends on what the management wants to do with the team. If they decide we have the backs to tear the opposition apart (which we do) then Sexton is your man, if Kidney decides we better play safe, tight rugby then you go for ROG simple as that lads.

Anyway id pick Sexton over O'Gara from now on in regardless because with the world cup slowly approaching Sexton can only get better with experience, O'Gara is not going to get any better so id rather have Sexton in form with a bit of confidence than ROG who's probably going to retire after the WC anyway. Could you imagine the state we'd be in then if Sexton gets dropped over the next year and a half and then all of sudden he's lobbed into the deep and told to pick up where O'Gara left off, thats not going to work. O'Gara is an irish hero but its time for him to ease up a tad and pass on the batten.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 15/03/2010 17:05:43    588765

O'Gara but sexton is one for the future.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 15/03/2010 17:14:57    588780

+1 on every single thing htaem said and I'll add that he is better in defence and will not be targeted as much.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12485 - 15/03/2010 17:18:35    588790

David Humphries was always pilloried for even the slightest mistake by the Dublin media while O'Gara is largely given a bye ball good or bad. O'Gara was awful in the 2007 World Cup and was responsible for losing the Lions series but still got an easy ride. He is not a bad player but is the media darling. Give Sexton time, he needs to work at his dead ball kicking but from play is very good. He is young and needs to be encouraged not lambasted.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9838 - 15/03/2010 17:22:24    588798

before the wales game.it was sexton for me...after it now my faith is back with rog

lowerormond (Tipperary) - Posts: 1267 - 15/03/2010 18:10:58    588888

The WORST kicker from hand I have seen in the last two years playing rugby is .....O'Gara.

Has anyone watched him. Last year against Wales, England and the All Blacks the cry from the crowd was to replace him with.....Paddy Wallace.

Enough said.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 15/03/2010 18:45:28    588946

Patrique as per usual ur spewing rubbish again....


Ulsterman you seem a bit put of the loop. Sexton is the one being lauded by the media, at the start of the 6 nations Tony Ward wrote an article saying Sexton is better than O'Gara. Sexton has also been given great ratings by all the papers despite one average and one horrific display

miketyson (Limerick) - Posts: 2748 - 15/03/2010 19:45:27    589047

O'Gara is the man to grind out a game, the old days, kick a team into positions, win matches on penalty kicks, consistently accurate, but sporadic out of hand going for touch but has an excellent ability to read the play, pick out a chip into space, find a winger with a high kick across the pitch. Defensively poor and has been exploited often in the past and as the legs start to get that bit heavier this problem will only increase in gravity.

Sexton gives a much more cutting edge to the attack in open play, fast hands, excellent defensive capabilities, great speed and ability to spot a gap. Place kicking a serious concern for the present but I expect this to improve greatly, it needs to. Lacking experience and improvement can only come through game time.

For the moment let Sexton gain experience. O'Gara in his early days often had uneasy kicking games and turned into one of our best outhalfs ever. Whoever Kidney envisages starting against Australia in the World Cup should be playing now and I think he is.

The_16th_Man (Clare) - Posts: 251 - 15/03/2010 20:49:04    589146

Sexton's kicking was a joke at the weekend. For me this has to be the key part of his game if he is to take the kicks for the team. Either Ireland use another kicker and keep him in the team for his other attributes or they wait until he sorts this side of his game out. In a tight game when defences are on top it is the penalties that will win you the game. Often you will not get a try against quality opposition, or it will be the penalties that decide a close game. At the moment he is too much of a liability. O'Gara is the choice for me at present, but i don't think he has long left in his legs.

Mancirish (UK) - Posts: 2200 - 15/03/2010 21:19:36    589206

O' Gara.

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2022 - 16/03/2010 14:36:10    589747

In the six nations so far:

O'Gara
Games Played: 2
Team Tries: 3
Games Won: 1

Sexton
Games Played: 2
Team Tries: 6
Games Won: 2

Sexton can miss as many kicks as he likes if he keeps those stats going

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12485 - 16/03/2010 16:23:55    589835