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biffo1 (Cavan) - Posts: 148 - 14/03/2010 18:30:14    587761

"Every time Galway and Kerry meet it is a great match. Nordies wouldn't understand"

It's true that when Kerry play Galway it is generally a great game with plenty of open, skilful football. I also believe that Ulster championship matches generally tend to be more physical than in other provinces. However, I am sick of people branding Ulster people as Nordies and all Ulster football teams as having the same style. This idea of "Ulster football" is a media invention. Armagh and Tyrone were both very successful teams during the last decade but both had their own styles. It depends more on the types of individual players on any given team and the style preferred by their manager. While counties often have a traditional style, this can vary from era to era. The Limerick team under Liam Kearns was more like Armagh in their style than any of the Munster teams styles. It suited them well. They now play a diferent style under Mickey Ned O'Sullivan which doesn't seem to have served them so well. While Armagh were a very physical, tough and organised team, they didn't use the blanket defence and quick counter attack to the same extent as Tyrone. Neither did they have as many skilful players, which for me is the reason they only won 1 All-Ireland. Kerry's style changed when Jack O'Connor came on board. He added a toughness and tactical awareness to the team that had been developed by Paidi to play very open, simple football. Likewise, Cork's team now under Conor Counihan is much more physical than the team of 5 years ago. Partly due to the players involved, partly due to the management's design for the team. I will agree however, that a game of pure, open, clean football is always better to watch than say, the Armagh v Tyrone final of 2003. And that's not having a dig at either team. Just stating an opinion.

lessbull (Kerry) - Posts: 177 - 14/03/2010 20:31:47    587921

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Would this happen to be the "pure, natural" football that has served Mayo so well dow the years? One word my boy, "Pragmatism"!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 15/03/2010 09:32:53    588097

Dont like to say I told you so , but I did tell you so. Extremely disappointed by Galway. Finian Hanley must have entered into a pre match pact with Donaghy that he wouldnt tackle him at all. Just let him come for the ball and lay it off with seamless regularity , totally unchallenged an in acres of space. Also even though Cullinane is a big lad and looked like he might take no **** from the Kerry lads he was eventually shown not to have enough quality to seriously challenge on a footballing front. Also thought Nicky Joyce was showen up as very ordinary. Anyway boys ye can say what ye like about beautiful football and hark back ad nauseum to the match against Kerry in Croke park in 2008 , but if ye dont show a bit of steel when facing these Kerrymen , they are going to continue to humiliate. Remember , they dont like it up em!

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 15/03/2010 12:48:02    588367

"Finian Hanley must have entered into a pre match pact with Donaghy that he wouldnt tackle him at all. Just let him come for the ball and lay it off with seamless regularity , totally unchallenged an in acres of space. "

Put a big man on hanley and he is generally shown up. Declan Maxwell has done that for years

johnnos bulls (None) - Posts: 527 - 15/03/2010 14:05:44    588469

Great post gaelantrim. The implosion in the second half was reminiscent of the debacle against Donegal last year. Real chance of relegation now, and on past form it's nothing less than we deserve.

Still. The right man is at the helm, and there's time yet for him to, at the very least, put a little steal into the players.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3154 - 15/03/2010 14:12:42    588476

Hopefully youre right Festinog. I think Kernan will get there. Saw great programe last night on TG4 onthe career of Sean Og De Paor. He was some player and a real gutsy leader on the pitch. Galway need to have their best players in the full and wing back line. They rely so heavily on Meehan and P.Joyce still to a lesser extent. Still there's a long way to go and id love to see them avoid the drop.

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 15/03/2010 15:10:46    588581

Gaelantrim you are not saying anything different to what I predicted on the Galway page i.e. we were looking at a 10+ point defeat in this game which was pretty accurate. The players are simply not there at the moment and you cannot make a silk purse etc etc. Our best man Mikey Meehan seems to be out for the season now with a suspected cruciate. Things going from bad to awful.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 15/03/2010 15:22:31    588603

Kerry Players protesting to Refs

How is that every time Kerry play we constantly see their forwards mouthing back to referees? Making gestures to them to have players booked, and in some cases running the length of the field to remonstrate with refs about hand passes etc? If this was any other county the ref would just move the ball forward and book the players in question. This is not a new thing with Kerry it has gone on for years , but nothing ever seems to be done about it.

LB (Wicklow) - Posts: 37 - 15/03/2010 15:25:04    588607

I have to agree LB. I have made reference to this a number of times. Unfortunately some of the Kerry lads act like spoilt over paid soccer stars. Declan O'Sullivan is far and away the most prolific and actually recieved yellow yesterday for his unparliamentary language towards the Ref. They've even got the Gooch now believing in his own greatness , which is a pity for such a brilliant player. Anyway a 10 point victory is the last thing to instill a bit of introspection and humility.

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 15/03/2010 15:33:48    588616

Terrible these boys are getting away with mouthing at refs and should be stopped.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 15/03/2010 19:55:20    589060

Antrim, I see your point when watching the box seeing Kerry players talking to the ref. Well if you were at the matches you should see the jersey pulling and off the ball stuff. Thats the reason, one way to stop this stuff 2 refs inter county. I guess been a kerryman pure football is what we want so 2 refs would be a positive for us

castlemaine (Kerry) - Posts: 546 - 15/03/2010 20:05:27    589077

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Special treatment yous are looking for as refs do not go out and do any team out of it.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 15/03/2010 20:17:56    589098

Kerry battering again dell...oh theres a shock....YAWN


Once we win I literally don't care how we do it...end story is Sam sits in Kerry.

nok02 (USA) - Posts: 534 - 15/03/2010 21:34:04    589242

There was some off the ball incidents, such as Kierans arms being held as the ball was kicked in; things the ref did not pick up on. However, overall it was a clean enough game. If Kerry players mouth to the ref, well then it happens elsewhere too; saw a good bit of it at the Cork v Galway game last week too. The ref in the Kerry v Galway game was a little fussy but still in all, no-one got a second yellow and at least players knew where they stood with them.

As for the game itself, once Meehan went off, the game gradually folded. He is a mighty player and both in the game against Cork last week and the first 20minutes in the Kerry match, he shows his brillance. Its understandable that Galway's tactics focus so much on him but its too predictable. He was clapped by both Galway and Kerry supporters when he came off the pitch which shows the admiration people have for him.

While Kerry put on a performance in the 2nd half and some of the younger players looked impressive; I don't think this is a good judge of their ability-there is a lot of work yet to go and I reckon Mayo (who is showing good form) will put it up to them-as of course, will Tyrone.

Jack's aim for this league is to experiment, he said so at the start and already he has tried lots of players-however, he also stated that he wants to stay in Div 1.

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 16/03/2010 14:57:09    589764

kerryKerry although Mayo are better than Galway at the minute I have an awful feeling that they are going to fold against your lads. It would be great if they could make a game of it for the spectacle itself and to spice up the following Tyrone match , which I feel is where Kerry are going to find out about themselves in a real sense.

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 16/03/2010 17:15:53    589911

i love this anti kerry jibes keep them coming that why we have 36 sams , catch up lads please.

kerryrowz (Kerry) - Posts: 833 - 16/03/2010 20:09:20    590091

Gael I think your incorrect. Kerry in Omagh wont matter a titter, just like last year a under strength Kerry beat Tyrone. Look what happened after losing to Cork. I ll be more worried in September. U21 game against Waterford as well this weekend. Mayo the great super power haha

castlemaine (Kerry) - Posts: 546 - 16/03/2010 21:19:07    590172

Gaelantrim, I think you have a point; the Tyrone match will be the real test. I am a bit worried that Kerry may be compliance against Mayo though and am not sure that the team is what it seemed to be against Galway. Nevertheless, Jack is on the right track..............

kerrykerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1779 - 16/03/2010 21:33:10    590185

Kerry are in a win win situation when they come to Omagh. If they win it will seem that Jack has manged the impossible and rebuilt a team capabale of challanging for the championship. If they lose by less than 5 points it will still be considered a moral victory and progress at that point in the season. If they lose by more than 4 it won't be hard to give a valid reason for the nature of that defeat given the loss of so many key players. Given that Tyrone probably need points to avoid relegation at that stage I would predict a defeat but moral victory for Kerry.

John Boss (Tyrone) - Posts: 865 - 17/03/2010 09:48:50    590253