fonejacker stick to the football boy cos you havent got a clue haha

UptheDeise (Waterford) - Posts: 225 - 14/03/2010 18:51:08    587783

your right hurlinspuds. a league match in the middle of march with over half our team missing (7 Portumna lads and a few more) will definetely define our season. Did you see brian cody laughing after the game yesterday-dont think he's overly concerned with loosing to cork!

ondabutton (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 15/03/2010 10:06:50    588126

hurlinspuds i still think galway are the team everyone else will fear and i know alot of GAA comentators and experts are of the same opinion. KK are a good team but they still have alot to prove yet. galways better underage talent coming through definetely gives them the edge.

The only teams in the Liam McCarthy fearing Galway will be Offaly, Wexford, Limerick, Carlow and Antrim. I doubt the dubs fear ye at this stage, Galway would fear that game. One forward and 6 backs that can either be brilliant or get absolutely cleaned out. Galway are too inconsistent, as Limerick have proved in the past winning 3 or 4 minors or under 21's in a row means nothing unless they have the right man to lead them into the senior grade.

Kilkenny have a lot to prove? So winning 4 all irelands in a row and 7 in a decade doesn't qualify as proving yourself. It's over 20 years since Galway won one and have only been to 2 finals in that time and your putting them up there with the greatest team of ALL TIME. People seem to forget, Tennyson, Rice, Power, Cha, TJ Reid, Richie Hogan, John Dalton, Tommy Walsh to name a few, are all still under 25 and haven't even hit their prime yet, at minor and under 21 level these players beat Galway in all irelands. Shefflin is probably the older member on the team at 30. People thought kilkenny would be nothing once DJ Carey retired and here they are 4 years later after winning 4 in a row. They will always have players coming through, the Leinster Colleges final a couple of weeks back had 2 kilkenny city schools in the final and there were some marvelous hurlers on display there and someone said of the Kierans team that won it 12 were still minor next year, so I wouldn't get the champagne out yet.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 15/03/2010 11:29:21    588227

KK are past it-if you cant see that faithfull then you obviosly know nothing about hurling. Shefflin was carrying them for the last ten years and he's past over 30 now and they've nothing worth talking about coming through the ranks. There were signs last year against galway, dublin, waterford and tipp that the rest of the teams were catching up. I predict KK will have a barren 10 years ahead of them.

ondabutton (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 15/03/2010 12:18:46    588320

I obviously know nothing about hurling? Come on ondabutton, if there was ever a clown on here it's you. First Kilkenny have to prove themselves, now their past it? And even worse Kilkenny are a one man team, forget Eddie Brennan, Martin Comerford, Richie Power, Eoin Larkin, who are better than all of Galways forwards not to mention Tommy Walsh, JJ Delaney, Noel Hickey, Cha Fitzpatrick. Shefflin has played in all irelands not played well and kilkenny have still won, how does that make him carrying the team. Joe Canning has to score 4-12 in games and galway still can't win because he is surrounded by donkeys. You'd want to take a quick look at your statistics again or look deeper into your magic eight ball. The fact is Kilkenny didn't play well last year and STILL no one was able to beat them, whether teams came close or not the Liam McCarthy will only have 2009 Cill Chainnaigh written on it. As long as I can remember Galway have always produced good minor teams, tell me what have these teams ever won at senior level? Ye've too many small forwards, all be it they're nice skillful hurlers, there no match for big strong men who have all the same hurling ability. Now when Galway win a senior all ireland come back and tell us then you know what you're talking about.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 15/03/2010 13:32:09    588423

And one more statistic for you ondabutton, last years all ireland final, Tipperary average age was 24, Kilkenny was 26. I predict another barren 20 years for Galway

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 15/03/2010 13:40:37    588435

faithfull none of your comments so far are making any sense. Would you please back up what you are saying. Bottom line is Galway have an edge over KK and the rest of the teams because they have greater strength in depth (ie. a better panel) and also they have more options coming through from underage teams. You can't possibly argue with that.

ondabutton (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 15/03/2010 14:29:13    588510

faithful, you're dead right in what you say. Ondabutton is either deranged or taking the mickey.

I don't think KK will win the AI this year but will be there or thereabouts this year and for the foreseeable future.

Galway depends on the gal that turn up on the day. brutal v waterford last year. Brutal at times in the league, like yesterday. one thing for sure, if they had strenth and depth in their panel as ondabutton claims then they might muster some replacements for the portumna boys and john lee.
KK on the other hand minus several regulars have performed well in the league so far despite two losses.

To answer your question ondabutton, no i didn't see cody laughing after the cork match yesterday...i think maybe only you did. cody is too smart to pull a richie bennis move like that.

Hope you enjoy the club championchip ondabutton cos the only hurling you'll see after july is the gal clubs scrapping eachother yet again for the chance to get roasted by portumna.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 15/03/2010 15:04:18    588570

ondabutton I know you're entitled to your opinion, but strength in depth?? I'm going to assume u weren't in Thurles yesterday making comments like that! I wonder are you even from Galway, because you're just asking for them to get slated, and God knows they get enough of that! And everyone else, please don't think that ondabutton's views are representative of the views of other Galway supporters because they certainly are not! I don't want to slate the lads myself, I'm an eternal optimist and I'd like to believe we will develop an 'edge' over the likes of KK and Tipp and eventually win that elusive Liam McCarthy, but i'm under no illusions that we have developed such an edge just yet, and i doubt many Galway supporters are!

Graveyard_Riot (Galway) - Posts: 4 - 15/03/2010 15:11:54    588583

Are you struggling to read now as well ondabutton. How am I not making sense or how can I get this through to you? I'm an Offaly man not trying to stand up for Kilkenny but trying to tell you you're talking a load of rubbish. Kilkenny have WON 7 BLOODY ALL IRELANDS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS how much more back up do you want? Would you like me to write you a letter? If anyone needs to back up what they are saying it's you. Galway have won **** all in the history of senior intercounty hurling, Kilkenny have won as much in the last 4 years as Galway have in the last 100. And now your saying Galway have the best panel of subs too, well i've just googled kilkenny's subs from last years all ireland and have noticed the following on their bench, Cha Fitzpatrick, Noel Hickey, James Ryall, John Dalton, Michael Fennelly, Martin Comerford, TJ Reid, Willie O' Dwyer to name a few since you can only use 5, can you name 8 Galway subs better than those players. I think you'll struggle. At best Galway are the 3rd best team in the country behind Kilkenny and Tipp, and even with maybe Cork and Waterford. Teams don't just become successful over night, the pedigree is there in Kilkenny, they've won all irelands in every decade since they won their first in 1904. People always say Kilkenny will never replace, Loury Maher, Eddie Keher, DJ Carey, Henry Shefflin, do you see where i'm going with this, these hurlers just keep coming, to say Kilkenny have nothing coming is a joke, the last 2 years in a row they compeated in all 4 hurling finals, minor, under 21, intermediate and senior. I know loads of Kilkenny people, even go down there and drive through it, every young lad is holding a hurl and a ball down there, believe me, kilkenny will get stronger, they've set a standard that teams are slowly getting up too, now it's time to step it up a gear again. Galway have Joe Canning who defenders have already learned how to mark, he bearly struck a ball from play last year, other than that what do Galway offer? The only thing going to beat Kilkenny is hunger, why do you think Eddie Brennan, Mick Kavanagh and a few others are only back training lately, Cody knows full well players will get burnt out, he's no fool, look at his record.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 15/03/2010 15:16:57    588590

On another note I'd just like to inform the Galway people on here that all my comments are at "ondabutton" and I have nothing against Galway. Like many posters on here stupid comments really annoy me

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 15/03/2010 15:20:00    588598

Lads I find this baffling people saying KK are past it. If tipp and cork were to show any improvement they would want to be beating kilkenny missing the ballyhale lads. I think the way teams approach kk is different now teams are competing physically with them.

Also I wouldn't be hailing a magnificent cork victory yesterday look at it this way they been training under their manager for a few months now and played against 14 men for over half the game and only won by two with the free man doing most of the scoring and what would be close to what will be starting team in the championship??

Tipp and kilkenny have 7/8 starters from the all-ireland playing in thurles and a win in march means nothing. I was still concerned after the kilkenny game forwards were poor as the were in the first half against galway, still major inprovement needed.

How can people start writing off kilkenny already it's not the first time they've lost in the league you know, kilkenny always peak around september they are masters at it and as for sheflin carrying them for the last 10 years look at the stats sheflin's scoring average has decreased over the years and yet the at still well at the top.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 15/03/2010 16:03:15    588647

ondabutton:

The strenght in dept comment made me laugh there and saying that 7 portuma players missing there are 4 which would add anything to the galway panel. Galway have the hurlers but there just a phycological thing with them you just don't know what galway team will turn up on the day, how can you say they have the edge over kilkenny, soon as tipp went ahead yesterday they crumbled same when eddie finished them off in the semi final with two quick goals and also aginst waterford last year.
Right galway are running out of excuses now used to be that the weren't getting enough matches. Time to step up and become more consistant and until they do that they'll never have the edge over them.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 15/03/2010 16:09:47    588653

I'd agree with you faithfull - Kilkenny will be around for a while yet and once they have the ballyhale contingent back they will be stronger again. People saying they are finished is stupid - Cody has always used the league to try out new players and new things - expect a different KK in July/August. Much and all as I would love to think otherwise, although there are still counties who I would like to see win the All-Ireland less than kilkenny!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/03/2010 16:10:13    588654

Faitfull "Cha Fitzpatrick, Noel Hickey, James Ryall, John Dalton, Michael Fennelly, Martin Comerford, TJ Reid, Willie O' Dwyer " have all played for KK, what are ya on anout? That is the worst point iv ever seen made on this site without a doubt, youd want to go home and learn yer hurlin

inoyerright (Tipperary) - Posts: 98 - 15/03/2010 16:16:10    588669

faithfull once again u have given me a convoluted response that doesn't address any of the points I've raised. James ryall, mickael kavanagh, noel hickey wouldn't get on the galway panel yet they are on the KK panel-what does that tell you. KK would love to have the array of talent that Galway has at its disposal at present.

ondabutton (Galway) - Posts: 222 - 15/03/2010 16:16:39    588671

The strenght in dept comment made me laugh there and saying that 7 portuma players missing there are 4 which would add anything to the galway panel. Galway have the hurlers but there just a phycological thing with them you just don't know what galway team will turn up on the day, how can you say they have the edge over kilkenny, soon as tipp went ahead yesterday they crumbled same when eddie finished them off in the semi final with two quick goals and also aginst waterford last year.
Right galway are running out of excuses now used to be that the weren't getting enough matches. Time to step up and become more consistant and until they do that they'll never have the edge over them.

Well said hag. I couldn't agree more. We need to become ruthless and we are not. No consistent fire in the belly. On one game, off the other. I do see squad improvements and I think the players are there to make a genuine charge but after yesterday the mentality is not there yet. By the way, well done to Tipp on a great 2nd half performance yesterday.

gaillimh73 (Galway) - Posts: 669 - 15/03/2010 16:39:41    588718

ondabutton:

I'd gladly take all 3 on the tipp panel and to say they wouldn't make the galway panel?? well going by yesterday they'd walk onto the galway team. Ye were missing 4 team members yesterday and john lee and to say sheflin is carrying kilkenny(which isn't true) what is joe canning doing for galway, we had the same eoin kelly carried us for years. The only galway players that would make it onto a kilkenny panel/team are joe canning, lee and ollie canning.

That galway team isn't a patch on the galway team of the late 80's/90's they havn't any heart at the moment galway's problem for the last 30 years to much in fighting and politics it's a bunch of 30 galway players you couldn't brand them as a team i know that is harsh but it's a fact.

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 15/03/2010 16:45:39    588727

gaillimh73

Seriously disappointed with the first half the goal before half time was key how we got in only 4 points down was amazing, to be outscored 1-13 to 1 point after the 32nd minute shows major problems for galway. Tipp still have problem in the half forward line they drift in an out of games like last year. I'd like to see O'brien corbett and callinan. seemed to work when corbett came out and floated out around midfield. I just can't for the life of me make out what happened galway what happened galway. Again are the missing the phyicallity needed?

Hag_and_Cheese (Tipperary) - Posts: 6103 - 15/03/2010 16:52:51    588739

The inability of some poeple to spot obvious WUM's is mind-numbing. A few have turned up recently on the Galway home board, but they've been spotted and hopefully will soon be starved of the attention they so desperatly crave...

Galway fading in the 2nd half was unreal. To think that with a little effort they could have beaten the much fancied Tipp IN Tipp should also cause concern to the Tipp fans here.

Saying the Port boys absence was to blame, indicates a lack of depth in panel selection that no county with aspirations of being AI contenders should tolerate.

And don't get me started on the footballers.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3154 - 15/03/2010 17:39:37    588831