ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 3021


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Would the work ethic not be a problem ?

I'm sure initially it would prove a bit awkward for them doing nothing all day,but eventually they would get the hang of it.

Our lads idea of balancing books is having one in each pocket

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/03/2010 18:38:16    579396

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10356

579306 ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 3021

578734
The PSNI are recruiting


One job i would never do ever.

I think dell with your policies regarding internment, punishment beatin of children etc, your best bet might be the taliban special forces

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 04/03/2010 18:40:49    579399

Done the apptitude test years ago, got called for an interview. Spent the night before in a friends house in Drumcondra. Went for a few pints, ended up at a house party, didn't make the interview.
Didn't really care at the time, but man, do I regret it now.
I'd have a cushy permanent and pensionable job where I had to do very little if anything at all.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 04/03/2010 18:48:40    579408

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5130

Am happy with the policies i think is right .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 04/03/2010 19:27:01    579459

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5130


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I think dell with your policies regarding internment, punishment beatin of children etc, your best bet might be the taliban special forces


I think Dell is too far to the right for the Taliban.

Sometimes I think he is Pol Pot in disguise.

Besides, can you imagine Dell stopping you and then writing down your details..........

Your sentence would be spent by the time he finished.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 04/03/2010 21:21:23    579643

I spent a few years on the frontline of a dole office where we were attacked, threatened, intimidated and vilified 8 hours a day 5 days a week by the public. A cushy number I think not. Most of the armchair generals on here in the private sector making photocopying paper wouldn't have lasted a day in the job. FACT!

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9838 - 04/03/2010 21:59:23    579703

Usterman,

Good man, defend us. We are completely overworked and underpaid and the abuse we get is serious. Keep up the good work while i'm out for my lunch !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 05/03/2010 12:34:35    579914

Dr.Shephard
County: Leitrim
Posts: 1260

579408 Done the apptitude test years ago, got called for an interview. Spent the night before in a friends house in Drumcondra. Went for a few pints, ended up at a house party, didn't make the interview.
Didn't really care at the time, but man, do I regret it now.
I'd have a cushy permanent and pensionable job where I had to do very little if anything at all.

Its funny, I did the same thing excluding the pints and house party, got the job and now I have a permanent and pensionable job and I have an awful lot to do, took two pay cuts and and now enjoy social pariah status cos gullible naive private sector fools bought every bit of goverment propaganda which conveniently scapegoated "someone else".

If only I had partied and missed the interview, and was currently unemployed - I'd be less of a hate figure.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 05/03/2010 12:59:14    579940

04/03/2010 21:59:23
Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 1655

579703 I spent a few years on the frontline of a dole office where we were attacked, threatened, intimidated and vilified 8 hours a day 5 days a week by the public. A cushy number I think not. Most of the armchair generals on here in the private sector making photocopying paper wouldn't have lasted a day in the job. FACT!
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I'M a private sector lumberjack

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 05/03/2010 13:03:01    579942

Thank God that the unemployed are able to process their own claims and payments. Thankfully tax payments calculate themselves. Housing grant forms fill themselves in, farming subsidy forms all complete automatically, TD's/MP's etc all write their own speeches and reply to all the letters sent into them etc etc. Right enough, why do we need civil servants? The whole country runs itself. Put private companies in to oversee everything, after all they are the pinnacle of efficiency and economic sanity.

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 05/03/2010 13:22:19    579956

My da has been in the civil service for near 40 years, he's no dosser. Though iv heard some stories about some of the dossers.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 05/03/2010 13:32:15    579964

04/03/2010 17:28:54
Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10363

579306 ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 3021

578734
The PSNI are recruiting
One job i would never do ever.
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Understandable I wouldn't like it either probably because of the shiftwork - They that any job that involves significant amounts of shiftwork can impact your sleeping patterns for the rest of your life.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 05/03/2010 14:22:36    580021

Patrique

A directive went across all departments today banning radios in the office 'due to costs'. Something to do with the Civil Service refusing to pay performing rights fees. You could feel the atmosphere and morale draining out of offices as the day went on with people starting to get on each others nerves, the music lightened the atmosphere a bit but now it's like a morgue. One or two bonus payments for senior Civil Servants would have covered these performing fees; so much for 'harmonious working environments'.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9838 - 05/03/2010 18:24:56    580302

Ulsterman
County: Antrim
Posts: 1656

579703
I spent a few years on the frontline of a dole office where we were attacked, threatened, intimidated and vilified 8 hours a day 5 days a week by the public. A cushy number I think not. Most of the armchair generals on here in the private sector making photocopying paper wouldn't have lasted a day in the job. FACT!


Nearly right Ulsterman.

But the CSA, now CMED, is the REAL frontline, you can't win.

But what you said is right, and for below poverty line wages which our friends in the south do not realise.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/03/2010 18:28:59    580308

ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 3028

Theres something in what you say about the shift ok, got a right shift in lisdoon years ago, still not sleeping right.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 05/03/2010 19:04:26    580348

Yos still have a job if you are still in the civil service and according to Edwin Poots cannot be made redundant even for gross Incompetency. A lot of people do not have that luxury I am afraid. And sure if the office is to quiet you can take stress leave if you really cannot hack it.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 05/03/2010 19:09:34    580353

derryman
County: Derry
Posts: 1092

580353 Yos still have a job if you are still in the civil service and according to Edwin Poots cannot be made redundant even for gross Incompetency. A lot of people do not have that luxury I am afraid. And sure if the office is to quiet you can take stress leave if you really cannot hack it.


Ah now Derryman bitterness does not become you. Yes we still have a job and for that I would assume that most are thankful(I know I am) but for quite a number of years the private sector had it as good as it gets. I tried about 4-5 years ago to get a bit of work done on the house and was quoted a ransom for it. A mate, also a builder told me that most boys had that much work on that they did not want the work and were quoting as high a price as they thought necessary to put people off. Now I have mates who are brickies, joiners etc phoning me asking if I am looking any work done and the prices are to say the least competitive. I am now fortunately after a couple of promotions not badly paid. No fortune but it is secure. This is however the choice you take. I wanted security and so worked in a job that until the equal pay claim was poorly paid. Others decided to work private/self employed and made the big money but did not have the security. In respect of Mr Poots, to a large extent he is right. I have a couple of staff who are and have been on final written warnings, committed an offence worhy of further action, I made the necessary recommendations to personnel and was told to just remind them of the terms of their warnings. The problem is, that there is so much red tape, political correctness, fear of tribunals etc that poor poor staff are not getting sacked when they should be. I have one member of staff at the moment ( I have 40 altogether) that I spend approx 30-40% of my time chasing after be it for time keeping, sick or general behaviour. Now they are in the family way and the possibility of getting rid of them now has reduced from 5% to absolutely zero. When I contacted personnel and advised them of the situation they run a mile and advised me to watch myself or I could end up in a tribunal if it appeared I was victimising this person!!!!!! To me as a manager the single biggest drawback of the Civil Service is the inability to remove poor quality staff. You are also correct about the stress thing. I have a staff member who went of on stress leave as a result of having to do a slightly different job in the same section and took the huff!! The world is mad. I ma then being asked to make all kinds of adjustments to get them back to work. Getting them out the door is my only concern.

I'll leave it there as I find my own stress levels rising. Admin, you can expect a two week line on Monday morning

Regards

ORH

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 05/03/2010 20:41:22    580423

can i get a job in the north in the civil service

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 05/03/2010 20:58:44    580438

derryman
County: Derry
Posts: 1092

580353
Yos still have a job if you are still in the civil service and according to Edwin Poots



Can I put you down then as a DUP voter for 6th May?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/03/2010 21:08:46    580449

omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1439

580423



You left out bullying and harassment from managers causing stress, and that is what I am there for.

Harassing a pregnant woman? We would soon be able to have you sacked, never mind Mr Poots.LOL

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 05/03/2010 21:11:36    580451