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Tom Ryan To Be Next Senior Hurling Manager

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How much support is out there for Tom to be next manager when Justin departs. We had some great days under Toms stewardship between 1994 and 1997. Who can forget those great occasions in Cork, Thurles, Limerick and Ennis when we won 2 Munster Finals and a League Final. Unfortunately, we had no luck in All-Ireland finals. Tom got the best out of that group of players and had no problem with discilpline.

Mountshannon (Limerick) - Posts: 6 - 03/03/2010 10:21:20    577702

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Maybe Tom Ryan could be the man, but he's out of the intercounty scene since he finished with Westmeath in '05. County Board wouldn't be too fond of him either. We all remember how he was removed in '97 after winning the league and reaching the All-Ireland final the previous year.
That trouble he tried to stir up by taking a case to court over the appointment of a manager a few years ago won't have endeared him to them either.

Has Tom had much success at club level in recent years?

whitefire (Limerick) - Posts: 177 - 03/03/2010 11:45:18    577791

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Tom Ryan was an excellent manager who was shamefully treated by the county he has real passion for limerick hurling my opinion is that he would be interested in job if there was no interference from anyone whitegate tom ryan managed ballybrown to the intermediate final last year but lost to st. liberties

Kenlim (Limerick) - Posts: 864 - 03/03/2010 11:53:45    577800

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sorry meant to say whitefire

Kenlim (Limerick) - Posts: 864 - 03/03/2010 11:58:01    577810

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Tom is a very good man manager but he would need a modern day coach with him for him to be successful, game has moved on a lot since he was last manager in 97

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 03/03/2010 12:58:17    577879

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When we look back at the previous managers since Tom Ryan they were all mainly native Limerick people who had a passion for the game. No doubt about it Tom Ryan was badly treated by the Co Board and sacked the morning of the National League Final against Galway in Ennis. A final Limerick won and Tom Have a proven record and it speaks for itself. one interesting fact that has gone amiss and that is, The Co Board has moved too quickley to terminate managers contracts just when they seem to be coming to terms of whats required for the job. Do you think that a native Limerick manager would stand on the sideline for 30 minutes in an All Ireland Semi Final and watch a team been hammered and just fold his arms without making any sort of moves to try and help curb the onslaught. Richie Bennis brougt great passion to the team, David Keane never got a chance and was too easily dismissed, Eamonn Cregan proved himself with Offaly, Pad Joe Whelehan and Joe McKenna ended prematurley, I think we have plenty capable Limerick people to lead Limerick Hurling. Do you think Justin's heart is in the team or just happy to collect his handsome cheque at the end of the week? Wheres the passion;

AChairdegael (Limerick) - Posts: 9 - 03/03/2010 14:32:30    577991

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A Chairdegael, Cregan proved himself with Offaly but not with Limerick, and Whelahan and McKennas tenures didnt end soon enough. You must forget the Thursday night in Thurles against Offaly under Dave Keane or the hammering in Ennis under McKenna when the players themselves didnt even know what positions they were playing in.

Mountshannon (Limerick) - Posts: 6 - 03/03/2010 15:54:14    578115

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Tom Ryan could be a manager alright, but as a coach? No way. People are on about McCarthy being outdated and he is still in the game at senior intercounty level. But Ryan plus a coach could be workable.

maorfoirne85 (UK) - Posts: 68 - 03/03/2010 16:03:36    578124

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KENLIM tom ryan was a selector of ballybrown last year not manager the manager was roddy burke.

sporting (Limerick) - Posts: 303 - 03/03/2010 18:22:04    578321

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Tom's record speaks for itself. Definitely the most successful manager we have had since Jackie Power in 1973. He would definitely have the necessary passion for the job, but he would need a modern hurling coach to look after the day to day preparation of the team. He couldn't do any worse than the man who is currently there.

treatyspartan (Limerick) - Posts: 212 - 03/03/2010 18:33:39    578337

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with some players coming back justin will probably be sticking around for a while

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 03/03/2010 20:21:13    578503

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I played under Tom Ryan and Roddy Burke was the physical trainer they were both phenomenal I would be 100% behind the appointment of Tom Ryan. Tom Ryan is a fantastic man manager and the current crop of Limerick players the 2009 and 2010 panels would definitely benefit from his experience and with his style of management there would definitely be no discipline issues he was able to control the likes of Ciaran Carey and Mike Houlihan without any problems.

I think the reason he was so frustrated with the whole situation with the selection process regarding McCarthy's appointment and sought a court injunction was because he could see the potential of the panel a man like Tom Ryan wouldn't have put his name forward unless he could win an All Ireland with Limerick. But I can't see it happening there is too much history with the county board the sooner they all go the better for Limerick Hurling. Just imagine Tom Ryan with a young skills coach and the likes of Ciaran Carey Steve McDonagh or some of the other players from the 94 to 97 panels as selectors the whole county would get a massive boast and the players would definitely hurl with passion

cody1234 (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 03/03/2010 20:29:08    578522

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I played under Tom Ryan and Roddy Burke was the physical trainer they were both phenomenal I would be 100% behind the appointment of Tom Ryan. Tom Ryan is a fantastic man manager and the current crop of Limerick players the 2009 and 2010 panels would definitely benefit from his experience and with his style of management there would definitely be no discipline issues he was able to control all without any problems.

I think the reason he was so frustrated with the whole situation with the selection process regarding McCarthy's appointment and sought a court injunction was because he could see the potential of the panel a man like Tom Ryan wouldn't have put his name forward unless he could win an All Ireland with Limerick. But I can't see it happening there is too much history with the county board the sooner they all go the better for Limerick Hurling. Just imagine Tom Ryan with a young skills coach and the likes of Ciaran Carey, Steve McDonagh or some of the other players from the 94 to 97 panels as selectors the whole county would get a massive boast and the players would definitely hurl with passion
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cody, how many current members of the county board executive were on the board between 94 and 97? Chairman? Secretary? Why should they go because of what others did 15 years ago?

cove (None) - Posts: 683 - 04/03/2010 09:27:59    578703

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Great post, Cody. Tom was right to seek a court injunction regarding the selection process. The Board were wrong to have fellows sitting on that selection committee who were members of the same clubs of some of the candidates that they were interviewing. And these fellows on that selection committee are now the same men that want to shaft Justin McCarthy. Shame on them, and hopefully the board wont make such a daft decision when they are selecting a manager next year. RISE AND FOLLOW JUSTIN, and lets look forward to this years championship with whatever players are willing to hurl for that great LIMERICK JERSEY. And forget about the begrudgers.

bouncer (Limerick) - Posts: 24 - 04/03/2010 14:58:01    579082

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This is Tom Ryans team

Tom Ryan (Na Piarsaigh)(Manager)
Damian Quigley (Na Piarsaigh)(Selector)
John Stokes (Doon)(Selector)
Dave Mahedy & UL (Trainers)
Henry Martin (Liaison Officer)

Sandy_Lane (Limerick) - Posts: 32 - 05/03/2010 08:26:21    579713

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cove
County: All
Posts: 240 how many current members of the county board executive were on the board between 94 and 97? Chairman? Secretary? Why should they go because of what others did 15 years ago?

Well said cove. It should have no bearing. Ryan would be for the better of Limerick hurling and that is what we need right now. He has as good a knowledge of the club scene as anyone there is and he would ensure that ALL the best players are playing. LUIMNEACH ABU!

MARNELL (Westmeath) - Posts: 728 - 05/03/2010 10:51:10    579791

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Ha ha ha sandy im sure tom would be delighted to know you have made him a na piarsaigh man.......

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 05/03/2010 10:53:07    579793

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Cove
How many current members of the county board executive were on the board between 94 and 97? Chairman? Secretary? Why should they go because of what others did 15 years ago?

Bouncer has just answered your question McCarthy being appointed as manager was rigged by the County Board. McCarthy was guaranteed the job if Brian Cody had been nominated he wouldn't have got the job. The problem with the current county board is they have inherited the same attitude as the previous County boards and act like the Mafia question what they're doing and you disappear.

Limerick have had very like success at senior since 73 yet when we get so close the county board sacks the manager and if I'm not mistaken the CHAIRMAN and SECRETARY are the men that sacked Richie Bennis???????? after getting to an All Ireland final????????????. The majority of Limerick supporters knew we were never going to beat Kilkenny in 2007 there are the greatest team ever. Yet look where were have ended up since beating Tipp in 2007 and they are close to toppling the Cats. You can thank your beloved County Board for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the election process for the manager had been fair then I don't think McCarthy would have got the job over Tom Ryan. The majority of Limerick supporters would fully support Tom Ryan's appointment as manager there has been nothing negative posted about him on this forum yet. The selection process for the next manager needs to be taken out of control of the county board and each club should get a vote on who gets the job. How can you interview somebody for the county manager's job what questions do they ask?????????? "Why do you want the job?" answer "because I believe we can win the All Ireland." "What do you propose to do?" Answer "train the team." The whole process is a total and utter joke a five year old could get job if he gives the answers the county board want to hear they want yes men. The only reason Tom Ryan and Richie Bennis got the bullet is because they told the county board to stop interfering.


Limerick supports are very fast to criticize players and managers but nobody questions the county boards involvement look at the assistant treasurer Michael McDonnell Croom he has been on the county board for decades and has influence when it comes to who the manager is yet from speaking with people in Croom he has no interest in the club apart from when they get to a final and I'm sure the other county board members are the same. Look at the PRO she can't even get the results in the papers and the state of the Limerick website. The county board are a bunch of cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cody1234 (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 05/03/2010 11:44:02    579854

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Looks like nobody has a problem with Tom Ryan as next manager. Liam Lenihan take note, you soldiered with Tom in the 90s. hopefully the committee that is being set up by the Co. Board to select the next manager will realise that Tom still has a lot to offer to Limerick hurling. Wouldnt it be great to relive the great hurling days and wins of the middle 90s.

Mountshannon (Limerick) - Posts: 6 - 12/03/2010 13:31:45    586318

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without a doubt tom ryan is the man for the job , has by far the best record as a limerick hurling manager and total attention to detail remember tom ryan once arranged a friendly far afield just to look at one player, also i dont buy the bull that his methods are now dated you either have it or you dont and tom ryan commands huge respect among players and supporters alike and i would see him as a man that would unify the whole thing

longtermfan (Limerick) - Posts: 120 - 12/03/2010 20:37:59    586883

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