seems to have been a good result for the senior hurlers. Have they any chance of succes this year?

ferfaithful (Fermanagh) - Posts: 6 - 03/03/2010 10:09:25    577693

Not after today - most definitely not.
People talking about Oisin Boyle and Micky Beggan ------. Oisin Boyle was poor today as was Paul McGoldrick. Micky Beggan didn't even get a run out.
Inter-club divisions today were on show for all - it was embarassing.

gaaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 144 - 07/03/2010 19:09:27    581339

What inter club divisions is that? Sure its Lisbellaw plus a token one or two from Skea is it not?

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 07/03/2010 20:07:20    581443

what do you expect of course its going to be lisbellaw players could anyone argue with that what skea r knocks player would get on the lisbellaw team

lisbellaw123 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 26 - 08/03/2010 11:25:12    581789

overall i think that fermanagh hurling needs to sort itself out, and it needs help from the county board
elitism of the footballers above all else is unfair and needs fixing
for too long its only been the small area around lisnaskea and lisbellaw that have taken hurling to even a club level
from what i can gather, there are talented hurlers in other parts of the county that have been lost from the game because of where they are from!
changes need to be made, and i dont claim to have the answers but its clear to see that something needs done
and in regards to the county team, big problems from what i can see
every1 seems to be underperforming which isnt complicit to success is it?

123_LHC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 7 - 08/03/2010 13:55:10    581992

lisbellaw123
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 6

581789 what do you expect of course its going to be lisbellaw players could anyone argue with that what skea r knocks player would get on the lisbellaw team

I'm not suggesting who should or should not play, I'm merely wondering how there is interclub rivalry when it is a defacto Lisbellaw team playing in Fermanagh jersies?

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 09/03/2010 17:43:23    583429

here the best way the county would begin to get results would be if the management would just turn out the lisbellaw team. no harm to skea but when lisbellaw play ther is a nice fluency to ther play and they always seem to know wer their team mates are. when lisnaskea players are involved they just seem to revert to the hit and hope tactic, this is consistantly evident in all the county games. The county management compound their mistakes by playing good players out of position, for example the big mcgarry lad in full forward, he looks lost ther even tho he is a fine midfielder.As for playing any knocks players, i cant believe the management actually do it, these players have only took the game up in the last year or two so playing them on the county team is making a mockery of the county team and other players must feel disgusted. one must hope the management are getting leaned on to play these guys from county board level because if they genuinely think they are good enough then we have to worry about what the management are doing.

big_dixy (USA) - Posts: 6 - 09/03/2010 18:35:59    583511

big mcgarry lad in full forward??i hope you arent talkin about Brendan? i have been to the last two county hurling matches and from wat i have seen of this Mc garry is that he is lost in every position on the field.. and oh yes another thing it has been the Lisnaskea hurlers that have been the one to perform for the county!!! as for saying that no skea r knocks player would get on the lisbellaw team is Bull i could name at least 6 .. Barry smith,Francie mc brien,paul Mc goldrick,Shéa curran, Fergal shannon, Denis mc manus and oisin boyle, would all make the lisbellaw team.. the county would play alot better from what i can see from watching them would be to pass the ball to many law players have there head in the clouds thinking they can do it all on there own.. as for frees?? Ryan Bogue should leave them to Paul mc goldrick.. by far the best man to be taking the shot from the dead ball.

EmmettsHurler (Fermanagh) - Posts: 5 - 10/03/2010 10:00:50    583856

Look I feel that I represent the core view of Fermanagh GAA people in the county and I know that nothing annoys them more than thiis continous rubbish about hurling on here. None of it is constructive and the same applies to the Knocks Grattans thread too.

What is this hurling minority (less than 5% of the county) doing to promote the game? Zillich in my mind judging from their messages leaving aside their pathetic performance on the field. If these Lisbellaw, Skea and Knocks crowd want to be taken seriously then they need to demonstate this in resultst and to the people of the county.

lrvinestownGael (Fermanagh) - Posts: 847 - 10/03/2010 10:40:46    583887

was monaghan dat gud on sunday

thomas (Longford) - Posts: 58 - 10/03/2010 12:54:08    584064

emmetts hurler u have to be taking the mickey, no wonder u's cant get near us when we play each other, if u are blinkered enuf to think these players u have named are good enuf to get on the law team then u are either just playing up your own players or just know nothing about hurling. Mcgarry in full forward is the best midfielder in the county yet gets played at full forward, u name a number of players whom you say could get on any team in the county. in the first two county games boyle and mcgoldrick have been by far the poorest two players on the pitch, however i agree mcgoldrick may be worth carrying just for his freetaking. u also go on to name colm mcmanus and that shannon lad as other players that could make any team in the county. i agree that mcmanus is talented but he needs to get back in shape first b4 he can talk about county, as for the shannon lad he trained with the county for a while last year and to be totally honest he seemed unfit and has the usual lisnaskea hurling flaw of only being able to hit the ball of one side. i just have to say it is laughable you think skea could have 6 players on the lisbellaw team, i could see past this if your club was getting anywhere near us in the regular club games we have against each other, fair enough you can get sort of close to us in the odd county final but if you look consistently at armagh league games etc then our winning average has to be upward of 15 to 20 points. u need to catch urselfs on down ther at the emmetts hurling club.

big_dixy (USA) - Posts: 6 - 10/03/2010 13:58:26    584131

lrvinestownGael
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 511

583887 Look I feel that I represent the core view of Fermanagh GAA people in the county and I know that nothing annoys them more than thiis continous rubbish about hurling on here. None of it is constructive and the same applies to the Knocks Grattans thread too.

What is this hurling minority (less than 5% of the county) doing to promote the game? Zillich in my mind judging from their messages leaving aside their pathetic performance on the field. If these Lisbellaw, Skea and Knocks crowd want to be taken seriously then they need to demonstate this in resultst and to the people of the county.

Going by the lack of esteem you seem to be held in throughout this forum, I find it hilarious that you see yourself as representative of Fermanagh GAA folk. Where do you get your facts and figures from? What is your club doing to promote hurling? What is Beleek, Kinawley, Derrygonnelly etc doing to promote hurling? It is a wonder that your football team is in the shambolic state that it is when nobody appears to give a damn. At least the hurling fraternity are using the forum which is more than can be said for the football given that the two latest hurling threads are the dominant feature. Maybe your lonely and because nobody appears to want to talk about football you are even more isolated as you know nothing about hurling. Come to think of it you know very litle about the football as well. Find a rock and return under it and do Fermanagh and the wider country a favour

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 10/03/2010 15:20:55    584261

The redhand is right.

FermanaghMan09 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 85 - 10/03/2010 17:31:13    584426

If a strong enough management team was in place they would be able to stamp out any problems between the clubs. This is obviously not the case!

donkeykong (Fermanagh) - Posts: 147 - 10/03/2010 18:43:44    584543

I have to say as a strong hurling supporter in the County I am disgusted at the constant slagging and general bad feeling portrayed about the game in Fermanagh. If you expect support for the sport to increase then you need to encourage it's development and stop with the smart remarks. It's a tit for tat conversation that continues every time a topic regarding the sport of hurling is introduced.

Might I say that the COUNTY team is there to represent the COUNTY, not one single club and the suggestion that a Lisbellaw Team is the way to go is a joke. In order to promote the sport other clubs like the Knocks Grattans need to have members of their Senior team on theCounty Panel. This will only serve to encourage the Underage players in their club to aspire to greater things and want to work hard to be on the County Panel. This can only promote the sport for our future players. If they see that their players don't make the squad, what does that say about their chances! Give the young lads a chance!

Regarding the issue of support...true, the County Board are poor, but with a new Hurling Committee things hopefully will change.

As for the Management, I do not envy them and feel they are climbing one hell of a mountain. The issue in Fermanagh Hurling is not the Management, it is not the skill, possibly fitness, but mostly attitude! Threads supporting negative feeling between clubs, such as this and the conversation regarding the Knocks only serve the purpose of creating further division between supporters and players alike. I think the people who make such negative comments need to grow up and really ask themselves are they supporters or are they hecklers.

It strikes me that in Hurling circles in Fermanagh you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I for one would like to wish the Management and Team the very best of luck for the remainder of the season. I would also like to say fair play to the Knocks for trying to promote the sport of Hurling and keep up the good work!

cumann (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4 - 10/03/2010 21:47:35    584866

cumann its easy for you to say give these lads a chance, there are already 2 knocks players on the panel and to say they deserve their place would be stretching things to the limit, and u can disagree all u want i've been to every county game the last 2 years and playing the lisbellaw starting 15 if fit is the best way forward.

big_dixy (USA) - Posts: 6 - 11/03/2010 13:23:16    585224

big_dixy
County: USA
Are you a past law/county player yourself?

ShowsFair (Fermanagh) - Posts: 292 - 11/03/2010 15:43:17    585389

I do not dispute that Lisbellaw are the best hurling team in the county. They have an excellent setup with a great deal of time and effort put in to developing their players from under 8 right up to senior level. However I stand by my guns. Fermanagh may win every game they play if they put out a Lisbellaw team, but as this message board has proven no matter what happens in fermanagh hurling, there will be angry men and women there to give abuse and negativity to the management and the players. You alienate more than half the county hurling supporters if you exclude the players from Lisnaskea and the Knocks from the county.
Despite what anyone might say there are politics involved. In a county with only 3 hurling clubs there must be representation from all 3 of the clubs on the panel. There would be uproar if their wasn't! It would only serve to further alienate people from the game. If people profess to support the game of hurling in the county, yet can't get on with eachother or respect other teams for the effort they put into their club, then why would anyone want to affiliate themselves to any of the 3 clubs.
I too have been at every county hurling game in the past 5-10 years. I am an avid hurling fan but unfortunately am often embarrassed by the poor attitudes shown by people towards our counties representatives. I am often disgusted at the manner in which people roar at the players...how would you feel if you were standing on a pitch and all you could hear was abuse, or as a young hurler having been ecstatic at being chosen as a member of the county panel reading such negative comments about your club and yourself. That is soul destroying and the people who are being so negative should really think before they speak.
Regarding the current setup, if the players have the skill they need to use it. Having been at both games this season I see that the problem is not the management, nor is it the choice of players. It is the general attitude. A team needs to play as a team... just as Monaghan did on Sunday. The players need to help eachother out. They need to run to the spaces and give eachother options not give up when things don't go their way. In short they need to think! This is a problem at the moment as I see it. The management had to resort to putting on the weaker players to see if it would make any diffference, and to return to your comment regarding Lisbellaw... the players you would be dropping would be replaced by weaker Lisbellaw players. Remember this team has played 2 games this season! That's it!

My feeling on the matter is that these young men need our support, not our critcism!

Good luck to the lads at the weekend in both their club Ulster League games and to the county in their game against Cavan!

cumann (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4 - 11/03/2010 21:30:44    585982

Should a manager not field his strongest starting 15?

gaaalltheway (Fermanagh) - Posts: 144 - 12/03/2010 10:34:38    586109

was there any need for such a long comment

teemore4sam (Fermanagh) - Posts: 101 - 14/03/2010 16:31:20    587671