Puddersthecat
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 652

Is he called Cha by any chance

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/02/2010 17:50:28    572224

gaillimh73, good post, interesting!

Milic1888 (Galway) - Posts: 132 - 24/02/2010 18:10:34    572258

It would be easier sadi than done ad say. The spin and the speed of the ball comin at you would make it hard now

allstar4 (Donegal) - Posts: 558 - 24/02/2010 18:21:39    572277

As a highly skilled hurler, not much use but highly skilled with a great eye for a ball, I thought the same.

But it took me two years to score a run in cricket.

Now anyone could play this week for Man United or Chelsea and maybe score a tap in, but most would not last two balls against an amateur club bowler. Immensely skillful game.

You also need to be a s brave as a lion because getting hit with a cricket ball at top speed could be fatal.

But even a spinner will find you out. I got down on one knee to sweep a ridiculously slow ball, a sure six, when it "bit" on the surface, spun and broke my nose.

So no, hurlers may not make good cricketeers although the "Guardian" recently indicated that Eoin Morgan had a hurler's wristy technique.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 24/02/2010 20:06:24    572410

Know a guy from Toomevara who's a big GAA man and is a cricket fan as well. He told me there used to be 5 or 6 cricket clubs in Toome.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 24/02/2010 20:49:06    572476

Patrique, are you suggesting that cricket requires more bravery than hurling? Surely not!

Milic1888 (Galway) - Posts: 132 - 25/02/2010 11:45:02    572761

yes we should all bow down and thank the landlords for forcing us to play their games and forcing us to obey their culture. Aren't they great.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 25/02/2010 13:13:02    572863

It always looks to me that hurling goalies might make particularly good batsmen. Sometimes the guy batting the ball looks more like he's just blocking than actually hitting. Sometimes his body even seems to end up directly behind the bat. But, I've not seen much cricket so maybe I'm talking through my hat.

I knew that cricket had been strong in Kilkenny. Its former strength in Tipp is news to me. Was it really ever strong in Cork and Limerick? I hadn't ever heard of it being played anywhere in Cork. I've only ever seen it played down the Mardyke. If Cork is one of the games two strongholds, then it's safe to assume that the game isn't very strong.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 25/02/2010 13:24:53    572879

Tom1916

G'way you spouting your Republicanism.I bet ye don't say that when you watch or play your soccer or rugby....Cricket is no different to the 2 of them sport's .

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 25/02/2010 13:55:08    572906

25/02/2010 13:13:02
Tom1916
County: Armagh
Posts: 675

572863 yes we should all bow down and thank the landlords for forcing us to play their games and forcing us to obey their culture. Aren't they great.

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Would you not consider a sport based on its merits or demerits in its own right as a sport (spectator or Participant).
Surely its origins should not influence your like or dislike.
What about other sports

Soccer, Rugby, queensbury rules boxing, Anything to do with horses etc etc - Do you also dislike these because of historical association.

Does this dislike extend to other walks of life - e.g Potatoes etc because of Sir Walter Raleigh or what about Wellington boots or indeed the earl of sandwich.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 25/02/2010 14:18:52    572938

Duffy80

G'way you spouting your unionism.I bet ye don't say that when you watch or play your soccer or rugby....Cricket is no different to the 2 of them sport's .

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 25/02/2010 14:19:26    572941

Culchie

Was it really ever strong in Cork and Limerick? I hadn't ever heard of it being played anywhere in Cork. I've only ever seen it played down the Mardyke. If Cork is one of the games two strongholds, then it's safe to assume that the game isn't very strong.

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And UCC.

Now there are 4 cork cricket clubs.

I love cricket. Especially watching the one day and 20 20 matches. Its ridiculuos to link cricket with loyalism / unionism. And I got to laugh at the people who think that linking the history of hurling and cricket somehow degenerates those tradional hurling counties and makes them less IRISH.

Its only a sport. Now if it was lawn bowling, then I might be more swayed!

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 25/02/2010 17:06:18    573176

No. A hurler only has interest in playing one thing, and that's hurling. Cricket is an awful, awful sport and any signs of it in this country should be stamped out immediately.

Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1172 - 25/02/2010 18:04:39    573246

Can't believe this has degenerated into a unionist / nationalist argument. Cricket is a sport, deal with it. If people can't stomach an English influence, surely they can appreciate someone with skill, grace and panache like Sachin Tendulkar. As Ashish Nandy said: Cricket is an Indian game accidentally discovered by the English!"
Fair enough if people don't like cricket cos its not their cup of tea, but don't go bringing political / national debates into an honest, open minded discussion.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 26/02/2010 08:06:18    573620

Cricket is an excellent sport and one at which other former colonies like ourselves take great pleasure in beating the English!

Okay, we are not totally 'former' colony and we have as much chance of beating them at cricket ;)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 26/02/2010 11:10:58    573738

I'm from UK originally and have seen more cricket than hurling. In principle I don't see why anybody with good hand eye co-ordination would not be able to hit the cricket ball. I also agree that most top level athletes could transfer to other sports fairly easily given time and a bit of training but I'm not sure the temperament of hurlers would suit cricket.

I think hurlers may be suited more to shortened versions of the game though, where it is more highly paced and hitting the leather off the ball is really important in accumulating big scores. But you need really high levels of concentration in longer versions (3-5 days), as well as a great deal of patience to grind down the opposition bowlers, and adapt to different types of bowlers, and the constanlty changing field positions. I'd like to know if anybody out there thinks that hurlers would be able to adapt to this mentality.

For cricket purists, it is Test Match cricket over 5 days that is the pinnacle of the sport. The shortened versions are just a way of getting more money into the sport and attracting new and younger audiences. The shorter versions have even been blamed for poor batting technique in the longer versions, although conversely they have been attributed with improving fielding. I think this would support my idea that hurlers would be better in shorter versions of the game.

On another note, given the state of English (& Welsh) cricket, if hurlers were considered to be a good option for cricket I think we would have seen some cricket style Ricky Nixon by now!

Stujey (Dublin) - Posts: 11 - 26/02/2010 12:50:42    573902

Stujey: i think many people involved with cricket over here are blithely ignorant to the game of Hurling and the great skills that hurlers possess! Otherwise there may well be some sort of Ricky Nixon scenario.

Tongo (UK) - Posts: 1795 - 26/02/2010 13:00:50    573914

I dont know for sure when the pitch was laid out at Longford house but I do know that George Comyn Kenny lived there from about 1850 to 1890. He was a Catholic from Clare from a long line of Catholics (his uncle was a big supporter of Catholic emancipation and of O'Connell) and the Kennys were proud of the fact that they were dispossessed but never converted - not your typical stereotype landlords. His son George Martin Kenny who died young was an excellent all round athlete, a great cricketer while a Trinity student and also holder of the Irish long and high jump records. He is said to have jumped the canal at Portumna. Had he lived now he probably would have been a great hurler. He played all sport.

mgallery (Clare) - Posts: 1 - 09/08/2013 21:10:43    1457926

No hurlers wouldn't make good cricketers , but our footballers do make good rugby players ( joke)

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 09/08/2013 21:33:44    1457938

The founder of the GAA was a cricket fanatic. Only later in life did he turn to hurling as he felt the country needed a national sport of its own

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 09/08/2013 21:52:09    1457955