nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1590

573896 BBC News reported last night that the deceased was suspected of being an informer, and may have led the authorities to a drugs bust in Donegal. Why would the RIRA kill such a man who was working against drug dealers?
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Not if it was their drugs Nocky!

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 26/02/2010 13:37:53    573955

OmaghRedHand no one has the right to take another man's life, he didn't deserve to die. If he was involved in a terrorist organisation or with drugs then he should have been brought through the courts and dealt with appropriately. This is supposed to be a democratic country after all.

CorkCelt you seem to confuse opposition to the IRA with support for the British Army and Authorites. It is possible to support neither side, in fact a lot of Nationalists would be in the same position as me. I don't see the difference between Republicans killing a man in 2010 to Republicans killing a man in 2007 or indeed any time in the past 40 years. This argument of them being 'dehumanised' as justification for it is actually extremely insulting to those innocent people who were killed. Do you think Loyalists who killed innocent Catholics were 'dehumanised' by the war and hence carried out these actions?

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 26/02/2010 14:23:08    574019

omaghredhand-

No I do not think the growing of cannabis is an action deserving of the death penalty.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 26/02/2010 14:27:48    574030

What about the growing of bad cannabis?

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 26/02/2010 15:36:43    574160

The way some prisoners of war where treated was a disgrace and surely not healthy .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/02/2010 17:28:41    574300

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10220

574300 The way some prisoners of war where treated was a disgrace and surely not healthy .

Jean Mc Conville and Joey Glover spring to mind, At least we agree on something Dell

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/02/2010 17:41:48    574317

omaghredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1419

574160 What about the growing of bad cannabis?

The REPS man will get you for that

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/02/2010 17:42:24    574319

Pomeroy You obviously chose not to answer my question. I'm not confusing anything. The point I am trying to make is that entire protest was about the British Government trying to criminalise the prisoners. The media were also involved, The words Terrorist, and IRA Godfathers were the new vocabulary everything possible was done to break these men and to criminalise them. They saw themselves as patriots prepared to give their freedom and their lives that people of this generation and future generations would live in a better place and in a better way. They resisted heroically and in my opinion they won. I totally accept the right of you and anybody else to hold a different viewpoint but I do find it extremely difficult to take, when Irishmen now living in a better environment continue to try and do what the Thatcher Government failed to do and that is to criminalise these men. I am not afraid of debate with you or anyone else on this forum but quite frankly I have enough of this thread and regardless of the provocation will not post again on it.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 26/02/2010 17:45:49    574323

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5061

Am on about the hunger strikers here .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/02/2010 17:50:01    574330

26/02/2010 17:50:01
Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10222

574330 dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5061

Am on about the hunger strikers here .
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Did they have an option to take a course of action that would improve their conditions.
Did Jean McConville have an option to take a course of action that would improve her conditions

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 26/02/2010 17:57:38    574340

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10222

574330 dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5061

Am on about the hunger strikers here .

lets not be selective


Both sides mistreated prisoners.

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 26/02/2010 18:00:04    574344

CorkCelt you are taking a few prisoners who died for their cause and applying it to the whole of the IRA. I have no respect for those that killed civilians based on their religion and I have no respect for the majority of these people. If you think they deserve respect because other members of this organisation went on a hunger strike then I think you're wrong. And to me anyone that kills innocent people is a criminal, call me old fashioned in that respect. I lived through it and with all due respect reading a few books about it or going to the Ardoyne for a boozy weekend doesn't mean that you understand the situation. But if you feel unable to debate with me feel free to leave

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 26/02/2010 18:00:25    574345

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5063

574344



Yes i agree both sides mistreated prisoners but i feel a goverment should have been sensitive on cases like this but your correct.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/02/2010 18:41:20    574386

pomeroy.plunkett.
tell me who on here has defended the actions of whoever carried out this young mans murder in derry.
i certainly did not, and i do not see a post elswhere suggesting it was right.
another thing i have read corkcelts posts, and he does not come across someone who has just read a few books, or enjoyed a boozy weekend in northbelfast.
i am sure he went there 2 learn more about the great city of belfast , and by his posts the man seems educated.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 26/02/2010 18:54:10    574410

oh i see ta32 when somebody agrees with you , you decide to say he knows a lot when some one is against you you say its easy for yous in the south never had to live like we did , we ta32 have a look in the jails down here during the last 40 years they were full with people from the south fighting for a united ireland and if your so passionate about a united ireland and others like yous why are you not out doing something about it

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 26/02/2010 19:17:16    574431

hipster.
yes i agree with someone with a heart and a brain, who can read between the lines.
anyway the war is over hipster its 2 late for u and whoever else would like 2 make an impact.
u missed the boat young man. and the point of corkcelt.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 26/02/2010 19:51:00    574470

HIPSTER

we ta32 have a look in the jails down here during the last 40 years they were full with people from the south fighting for a united ireland

Not sure that is true now really do you . The treaty mean anything to you ?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/02/2010 20:02:14    574484

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10241

574484 HIPSTER

we ta32 have a look in the jails down here during the last 40 years they were full with people from the south fighting for a united ireland

Not sure that is true now really do you . The treaty mean anything to you ? ..what treaty

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 26/02/2010 20:42:55    574531

Administrator I do believe it is time to lock this it has deteriorated to Kindergarten level

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 26/02/2010 20:48:31    574535

The treaty that was signed without the 6 counties .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 26/02/2010 20:53:08    574541