omaghredhand, Whether one agrees or disagrees with the sentiments, your post is one of the most powerful and articulate that I have read on the site. Well done and the best of luck with your degree.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 24/02/2010 15:34:51    571989

ta32
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1061

571292 hipster.
do u honestly believe the provos of forty years ago , were in a better position than they are now.
we had 2 fight then , people where being burned out of their homes , but u were probaly 2 young 2 remember or were not even born.

WE?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/02/2010 15:38:23    571995

Are the dissidents not the people dealing the drugs lads?

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 24/02/2010 15:41:10    571999

tomaoo7
County: Dublin
Posts: 5121

Its amazing how they react when you agree with them, of course when you dont you know nothing about politics, sure how would you, being a free stater that has not suffered being sold out.

The bomb in Newry was probably part of a British/Unionist plot to discredit Nationalists

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/02/2010 16:00:12    572029

nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1564

571999 Are the dissidents not the people dealing the drugs lads?

Don't believe everything that the stooges of the secret police write in the gutter media.

JPM1981 (Kildare) - Posts: 825 - 24/02/2010 16:14:51    572046

JPM1981
County: Kildare
Posts: 537

572046 nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1564

571999 Are the dissidents not the people dealing the drugs lads?

Don't believe everything that the stooges of the secret police write in the gutter media.

Can you recommend anyone we should believe?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/02/2010 16:21:40    572058

well said dhorse

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 24/02/2010 17:04:41    572121

ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 2939

571727


The law does not stop these poeple destroying housing estates , even youths annoying the old poeple in there own homes and drugs, drinking, burning cars, etc so yes they desrve to get punisiment beatings .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/02/2010 17:26:02    572159

Well blame BBC its simply copied and pasted. I didnt read over, Well the RAAD is against drug deals from what I learn, No I dont thing dissidents do drugs?

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 24/02/2010 17:34:19    572186

what would happen dell if your kid was hanging around with the wrong crowd doing the things you say would you throw the first stone

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 24/02/2010 17:35:31    572190

hipster
County: Dublin
Posts: 1265

572190


If my child was hanging around with the wrong crowd i would give them a good beating my self and stop them hanging around with bad groups.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 24/02/2010 17:45:57    572217

I wish to apologise to all dublin posters for referring to some of your brethern as Jackeens. The comment was ill thought and unnecessary. My deepest apologies.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 24/02/2010 17:49:10    572222

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10167

572217 hipster
County: Dublin
Posts: 1265

572190


If my child was hanging around with the wrong crowd i would give them a good beating my self and stop them hanging around with bad groups.

Whats the difference between a good beating and a bad beating dell

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 24/02/2010 17:59:58    572240

24/02/2010 17:26:02
Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10167

572159 ruanua
County: Donegal
Posts: 2939

571727


The law does not stop these poeple destroying housing estates , even youths annoying the old poeple in there own homes and drugs, drinking, burning cars, etc so yes they desrve to get punisiment beatings .
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That was not my question.

I asked a series of questions about who should determine their guilt and what their moral standing was and what rights the accused had
I also asked if a person who gave a punishment beating to someone who was subsquently determined innocent, was themselves guilty of a crime under this "vigilante law" that you condone and if so what should the punishment be.
On an addittional point do you also support a vigilante state in the 26 counties where the criminal law structure is pretty much similar to that of NIRE.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 24/02/2010 18:04:04    572250

24/02/2010 14:51:43
Scruffy2Donut
County: Cavan
Posts: 225

Excellent response...here here.

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You are not being consistent in your view. You post was fundamentally different to the post ORH has made which whilst being one I disagree with it was substaniated and did consider both angles of the debate. so are you agreeing with his post or your hang them if they cough post.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 24/02/2010 18:11:54    572260

Dell I had my doubts about you for fair while but most things you say Im agreeing with. Thats madness

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 24/02/2010 18:13:12    572263

dhorse.
we we we. the nationalists in the north. dhorse .
i hope this helps.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 24/02/2010 18:39:01    572297

the reason why we are all on here arguing is because people do not see that the dissidents, and the provosionals, are 2 diffrent bodies.
the provos had 2 fight years ago 4 the nationalist community , and had the backing with inside villages ,towns.
the dissidents have no support whatsoever.
so please do not dance on the graves of bobby sands , ray mc creesh, or joe mc donnell.
or the leaders of 1916, or the men of 98.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 24/02/2010 18:48:02    572309

derryman. my facts are right in the aftermath of sunningdale the war council in whitehall introduced operation motorman.
they waded in with their saracens and in and around derry and belfast especially , their treatment of nationalists was not pretty.
but the crowd u stated set up road blocks and brought the province 2 a stanstill.
all the best derryman, i hope i made myself a bit clearer.

ta32 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4907 - 24/02/2010 19:07:04    572335

dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 5018

572029 tomaoo7
County: Dublin
Posts: 5121

Its amazing how they react when you agree with them, of course when you dont you know nothing about politics, sure how would you, being a free stater that has not suffered being sold out.

The bomb in Newry was probably part of a British/Unionist plot to discredit Nationalists .................Because when push comes to shove they don't have the answers to back up their arguement...Could it be similar to the same British/Unionist plot that brought down sunningdale......Dhorse ? What is the difference between a Dissident and a Republican

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 24/02/2010 19:14:29    572343