It happened in Derry 2 or 3 weeks ago, A shop called 'Red Star', The RAAD does it?
I dont agree with people selling legal highs or drugs, I agree with drugs but there could be other ways to get the people and their shops away without shooting the owner?

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 17/02/2010 17:54:49    564681

At least people have a better alternative to these disgusting head shops and their horrible dangerous products - the drug dealers and gangs and their homemade concoctions.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 17/02/2010 18:01:09    564695

Rossielassie:

Alcohol is very much as lethal and dangerous as anything sold in a Head Shop. Don't forget that the things in Head Shops are legal, the same way alcohol is legal.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 17/02/2010 18:13:52    564722

RMDrive
County: Donegal
Posts: 2025

564332 What "businesses" would be affected by head shops? Could they have played a part in these events I wonder? ......................It aint vigilantes burning these shops down i would say its the opposition.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 17/02/2010 18:21:30    564737

17/02/2010 17:54:05
Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 2142

Apologies, but 100% BS. "think of the children wahwahwahwah" i don't use head shops either.

You are on an uphill battle because you haven't made a reasoned argument not because other people have taken drugs.

Only BS here is you sunshine! And your ignorance says it all. You have no sense if you think people taking the drugs they buy in there has effects on others.
Im not here trying to be mother teresa or mary poppins BUT I HAVE worked with Adults and Children, who either have taken drugs or parents took drugs and it does affect their development. By allowing shops to sell certain drugs that are not prescribed for ailments (like chemists) means you are saying that recreational drugs are acceptable.and its not. Mild drugs or otherwise.

rossielassie (Roscommon) - Posts: 672 - 17/02/2010 19:23:07    564811

MesAmis
County: Dublin
Posts: 489

564722 Rossielassie:

Alcohol is very much as lethal and dangerous as anything sold in a Head Shop. Don't forget that the things in Head Shops are legal, the same way alcohol is legal.

I agree that it can be lethal also. I think it is a shame that they are legal. I know they pay tax etc. I am not strict though, i am open minded but I dont see the need for them at all. Yes i went to college and see alot, and worked in USA with plenty of potheads but at the end of the day people cant ignore that these drugs have side effects, and the good ones dont last last, the bad ones do.

rossielassie (Roscommon) - Posts: 672 - 17/02/2010 19:28:01    564817

Should we ban chocolate rossielassie, because too much of that can be lethal too...

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 17/02/2010 19:57:52    564858

BUT I HAVE worked with Adults and Children, who either have taken drugs or parents took drugs and it does affect their development

No, you have worked with people who needed help. For every one person that needs help because of their drug taking, there are plenty who take the same drugs and dont need any help, just like alcohol abuse. Im sorry rossielassie, but breffni and mesamis are right, these are legal substances, so if people want them banned they have to prove they are dangerous. Personally i dont see why people are so against them, they are taking the place of criminal drug-dealers, i know it may not be perfect, but surely it is an improvement

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 17/02/2010 19:58:33    564862

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10021

564892 Burn everyone of them and keep them out of towns , villages etc ,

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Pubs/Off licences or Head Shops or all places that provide legal highs?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 17/02/2010 20:18:01    564900

How is it an improvement, because they are in a building with a shop sign, rather than in an alleyway, or in a carpark or whatever?
Do you think people start of taking drugs like heroin or cocaine first, or did they start by other drugs that are minor compared to them, like hash or magic mushrooms and then move up the scale?
I would only agree to legalising something like hash, but ONLY for terminally ill cancer patients.

Can someone give me their honest opinion, without shooting me down on it. Like whats the attraction, Would you be worried that your kids bought things from there? Im open minded to accept that my views are different from anyone else but I just dont get them at all.

rossielassie (Roscommon) - Posts: 672 - 17/02/2010 20:18:59    564901

Dellboypolecat
I think the 2 of us are the only ones in agreement!

rossielassie (Roscommon) - Posts: 672 - 17/02/2010 20:19:44    564902

rossielassie
County: Roscommon
Posts: 190

564902 Dellboypolecat
I think the 2 of us are the only ones in agreement


Looks like that alright .

MesAmis

Look pubs have strict laws we know what is been sold there not in these head shops and disgrace there allowed to open.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 17/02/2010 20:24:51    564913

Go live in Holland or somewhere else that legalises all/most drugs

Plastic Paddy (Tyrone) - Posts: 664 - 17/02/2010 20:25:59    564915

Dell, you started a thread about "Lawless Ireland" a while ago, looking for ways to eliminate the gangs and drug dealers. Legalising some or all of these substances would be the best way of doing this.

Rossielassie, may I refer you to the Drugs Thread where you will find plenty of rebuttals to your silly theories.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 17/02/2010 20:34:09    564935

Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10022

564892 Burn everyone of them and keep them out of towns , villages etc ,

Dell this username of yours... I have a question regarding the origins of it...!

You feel embarrassed about the circumstances that gave birth to ur nickname.... yes?

Were you perhaps under the influence of a legal high at the time?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 17/02/2010 20:37:49    564941

nocky
County: Wexford
Posts: 1449

564935


All drugs should be banned every single one and drug dealers locked up and the key throwing away.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 17/02/2010 20:44:05    564953

17/02/2010 20:44:05
Dellboypolecat
County: Tyrone
Posts: 10023

All drugs should be banned every single one
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Even caffeine, tobacco, aspirin, morphine, alcohol....

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 17/02/2010 20:48:06    564959

silly theories? Oh so im to listen to people who have taken drugs and are totally fine, how much of a % of the population is on this thread? And those who do have side effects or bad trips or what ever, have they posted, where are they?
My main opinion on this is based on what ive dealt and to deal with, regarding my job. You may laugh, mock or ignore what I say but you wouldnt like your children to be effected by drugs.

rossielassie (Roscommon) - Posts: 672 - 17/02/2010 20:48:41    564962

Dell:

I don't care about Head Shops one way or the other but I don't like peoples attitude towards them when Pubs do more damage to people than these shops do.

Remember the drug dealers you despise (and rightly so) would very much like these Head Shops to close down too.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 17/02/2010 20:52:37    564971

What drugs do these 'head shops' sell then? There couldnt be that many legal drugs in ireland?

Plastic Paddy (Tyrone) - Posts: 664 - 17/02/2010 21:02:31    564987