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Liverpool v Celtic in Croker

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It's not all about money though Nocky, there's numerous ways the GAA could make money off Croker if they wanted. There's a lot of boys up here who would love to see Rangers play, maybe a friendly should be set up between them and Linfield at Croker. I wonder if you, Corkcelt et al would be so open-minded if that were the case. I must say I have my doubts

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/02/2010 12:37:34    565374

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Please tell us, what are the other "numerous ways" the GAA could make money off Croker Pomeroy.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 18/02/2010 12:55:51    565421

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32_4_1 Celtic are a British club. That is a fact. They may have Scottish nationalist political aspirations but that doesn't alter the fact and it doesn't make me a hypocrite.

Milic1888 (Galway) - Posts: 132 - 18/02/2010 12:56:50    565424

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32_4_1 - the official celtic website says they are a british club

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 18/02/2010 13:32:25    565494

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I really hope this doesn't happen...

itsgreenandgold (Meath) - Posts: 312 - 18/02/2010 13:40:23    565506

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Glasgow Celtic FC were the first BRITISH club to win the European Cup

Dont recall any Irish sides ever winning it ?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 18/02/2010 14:02:14    565542

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Milic1888
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565424 32_4_1 Celtic are a British club. That is a fact. They may have Scottish nationalist political aspirations but that doesn't alter the fact and it doesn't make me a hypocrite.



so then, in your opinion irish nationalists in the north are british? if not, you're a hypocrite

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4165 - 18/02/2010 14:25:58    565583

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Milic1888
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565160 There are no "Irish/Catholic" soccer teams in Britain. They are all BRITISH! It's so pathetic to hear this put forward as justification for supporting british sporting institutions. If hurling and Football can't satisfy our hunger for sport, we should follow one of our soccer teams. There are plenty of them here to cheer.

Doesn't anybody else see the hypocrisy of a bunch of lads in the pub wetting themselves with excitement watching English Man Utd - with players that represent England - win a league match in the spring and then support every opponent England play in a big tournament a few months later?


No, its just you. You must be sooooooooooooo clever!!

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12387 - 18/02/2010 14:28:52    565590

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1. the term britain or british doesnt exist or isnt recognised by any official football organisation. in their eyes celtic are scottish and scottish only so that would over rule the celtic WEBSITE. the cup we're talking about was a uefa trophy and uefa dont recognise celtic as a british team. neither do the sfa or fifa

2. that website statement is there for 2 reasons- to rub it into all the english sides, who at the time in a superior league with superior resouces still couldnt win the european cup while celtic could, and also to help cut down on the sectarianism in scottish football.

3. the people at the top etc dont talk for the club. websites, chairmans, managers, players will all come and go but its the fans who are there for the long haul. its the fans club i.e. the same scottish nationalists of irish diaspora who wave the tri-colour. same as liverpool and united. in reality the glazers etc, have nothing to do with the club. it the fans club. they are the ones who come to support it and make it what it is. the celtic fans are scottish nationalists. celtic is a scottish nationalist club with proud irish roots and connections.

4. i see no one answered my original post. ill put it to you again liam but i dont expect a reply as you've never once answered any question i've ever put to you, as we've also just seen in your last message. you continually jump around the point. so answer this:

"if any one of you's set up a club abroad would you's not like your team to be able to come back and play in your home country."

5. i hear a lot of talk from people giving out about 2 "british" clubs coming to play. so whats wrong with two "BRITISH" clubs coming to play, eh. all people do here is call me an armchair republican etc. but now look at all the hypocrite complaining about 2 "BRITISH" clubs coming to play in ireland. it there something wrong with the british to all you hypocrites?????

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4165 - 18/02/2010 14:52:40    565633

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Lads do you not know that Celtic are an Irish club, sure Glasgow is in Ireland according to these boys

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/02/2010 14:52:49    565634

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I have a DVD called: Celtic The Irish connection, i don't know if any of you have seen it but it implies that the club was founded by Irish immigrants. Now i don't know the whole story but i thought that was the case.

wolfpack1 (Cavan) - Posts: 14 - 18/02/2010 15:02:40    565661

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32_4_1
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565583 Milic1888
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565424 32_4_1 Celtic are a British club. That is a fact. They may have Scottish nationalist political aspirations but that doesn't alter the fact and it doesn't make me a hypocrite.


so then, in your opinion irish nationalists in the north are british? if not, you're a hypocrite


If your from Northern IRELAND you are 100% entitled to call yourself Irish. Your from the Island of Ireland, meaning your Irish. Juat ask Stephen Ferris is he Irish.
If your from Glasgow, your Scottish, thus British....32, you are aware that Glasgow is in Scotland, which in turn is in Britain....arent you...??

Where is the hypocrisy in that?!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 18/02/2010 15:04:24    565665

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why are you putting the ireland part in "northern ireland" in capitals. i can as easily put SCOTLAND in capitals.

see the irish in the north only got that option in recent history liam. were they british before that?

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4165 - 18/02/2010 15:14:46    565680

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Pomeroy You are not remotely witty. What I and others have said is that Celtic have very strong Irish roots. The Club is extremely proud of its Irish roots and the Irish tri-colour is always flown over Parkhead. Various bodies have tried to force Celtic to remove the Flag but the Club resisted and our flag still flies there. There is a huge Irish diaspora in Scotland, who have a great love and loyalty to Ireland and have a great sense of Irishness. Personally I have a much more sense of kinship with lads from that diaspora who are Scottish by birth but have a huge sense of Irishness in their hearts then I would have with the like of you.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 18/02/2010 15:18:44    565691

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32_4_1 anyone born in N.I. could call themselves Irish due to the fact that they were from Ireland. This hasn't just been the case recently, it's always been this way. I don't understand what you're struggling with here

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/02/2010 15:22:14    565693

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That comment really takes the biscuit, I'm less Irish than you simply because I don't support Celtic. That did actually make me laugh. So according to CorkCelt being Irish is dependent on supporting a British club, go figure. And Hibs were also formed by Irishmen and formed before Celtic were, why don't you and your ilk support them? Nothing to do with the fact that Celtic are much more successful? Seems the bar-stoolers also have a touch of the glory-hunting about them. I actually used to support Celtic when I was younger and even went over for a few games. I grew out of it though, perhaps you will someday as well

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 18/02/2010 15:26:58    565704

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32_4_1
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565680 why are you putting the ireland part in "northern ireland" in capitals. i can as easily put SCOTLAND in capitals.

see the irish in the north only got that option in recent history liam. were they british before that?


What does all that even mean?!!
If you lived in Northern Ireland 50 years ago, or today, you still lived/live in Ireland, thus you were/are still entitled to say you were/are Irish...no matter what anyone else said! you lived in Ireland. The ROI is not the only Ireland son!
Also if you were born and lived in Sotland anytime in the last however many hundred years, you were British...you may have had Irish parents, but you were born and bred in Scotland, which is 100% in Britain.....and is proud to be so too!
Simples!!! (but not to you i see!)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 18/02/2010 15:28:45    565708

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only officially after the belfast peace agreement pomery. ill ask you again. were you british before that? if you say no and continue to call scottish nationalists british your a hypocrite. plain and simple. i cant see why its so hard for everyone to understand. n.i and scotland were in the very same boat in terms of your official nationalisty until the belfast agreement.

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4165 - 18/02/2010 15:31:59    565712

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Didn't say you were less Irish Pomeroy just said I feel no sense of kinship with you. You are hardline on sport. Castigated McGinn for playing soccer for N.I. are against Rugby and Soccer in Croke Park. Yet when it comes to the political scene you refer to lads from your own County who joined the physical force movement as Terrorists. I disagree with you both in sporting terms and on political terms.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 18/02/2010 15:34:22    565714

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Money for old rope as they say.

JuanVeron (Westmeath) - Posts: 1866 - 18/02/2010 15:37:21    565720

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