in fairness lads Liverpool have far more supporters in Ireland than anyone else so it makes the most sense and theres no need to even question celtic, you either support them or you dont!

laflour (Cavan) - Posts: 528 - 15/02/2010 20:18:06    562424

corkcelt
County: Cork
Posts: 1418

562394 Duffy As far as I know the term Kop comes from a Hill in South Africa called Spion Kop where there was a famous battle during the Boer War. Afterwards a number of high terraces at Football grounds were nicknamed Spion Kop but the Liverpool name in particular survived. Paddy, as you well know there is nothing makey uppy about Celtic's Irish roots, founded by a Sligo Marist Brother to raise Funds to provide Penny Dinners for starving Irish Children in Glasgow, Founding Fathers all had strong Fenian backgrounds and when they moved to present ground in 1892 your fellow County man and one of the most famous Mayo man of all times, Michael Davitt turned the opening sod, He was subsequently made a patron of the Club.

Cork City Football Club (Irish: Cumann Peile Cathrach Chorcaí) is a professional Irish football club playing in the League of Ireland Premier Division. Founded and elected to the league in 1984 to continue the long tradition of Association Football in Cork, its traditional colours are green and white with red trim. It was one of the first clubs in Ireland (and the first in Cork) to field a team of professional footballers.

With the progression of professionalism at the club, continued development of the Turner's Cross stadium and the transition to summer football, the club became one of the biggest and best supported clubs in the country.[1]

In recent years, the club suffered financial hardships and management controversy. The club entered a period of examinership in 2008 and was temporarily subject to a winding up order taken by the Office of the Revenue Commissioners. The club recovered from both, but the resulting fallout meant censure[2] and resignation of club chairman Tom Coughlan.[3]

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 15/02/2010 20:23:04    562429

So you can't actually name two Irish soccer clubs who would make a friendly in Croker financially viable then paddy. Then what is wrong with the GAA charging Celtic and Liverpool E1.2m for the use of Croke Park for a night and reinvesting this 1.2m in, say, the promotion of hurling in weaker counties?

It would be better than renting the place out to the FAI or IRFU because the clubs involved would spend their profit abroad, not in Ireland as the FAI and IRFU would (competing with GAA). It would also be better than having another Bono concert, which would annoy the neighbours more.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 15/02/2010 20:48:36    562469

paddy, who are you trying to impress. I know the implications of what you are going on about. As I have previously stated, when I lived in Cork I was a season ticket supporter of the local team. Even though I am out of Cork I usually get to 6 or 7 Cork City games per year which is about the same as the number of Celtic Games I attend. It is quite normal to support more then one team and indeed more then one code. The non-sensical manner of your reply, conveniently avoided responding to the points I made in my previous post

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 15/02/2010 21:17:21    562525

Laflour, look up your history like a good boy, The "Irish/Catholic" team in Liverpool was Everton, not Liverpool. But hey dont let the facts get in the way of a good story!! Liverpool were founded by Orangemen! Fact.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 16/02/2010 09:34:44    562630

Dell please respond to the comment and don't attack the poster. I'm this close to making an article bleating on about how I'm bullied on this site. Getting back to the original post are people honestly being serious on this thread? Should Croke be rented out to any event going just to make the GAA a few extra pound? It lies dormant for weeks on end sometimes, maybe we should let the grass grow and take some silage off it to sell. The GAA made the historic decision to help out it's countrymen in other sports when they needed somewhere to play and had no other option but Croke Park. Now Celtic fans want to take advantage of this by playing a friendly there (when Celtic and Liverpool both have perfectly good stadia) just to save them the travelling costs. If you want to support a British team go to Britain to support them

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 16/02/2010 11:11:09    562712

true enough liam.the biggest orange order in england is in liverpool.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/02/2010 13:44:23    562967

Pomeroy Get your facts right. The genesis of this idea has nothing to do with Celtic or Celtic Fans. I understand it is an independent Promotions Company which were enquiring re the availability of Croke Park for a 4 team pre-season Competition. Apparently they did have Celtic/Liverpool/Barcelona/Real Madrid as possible candidates to take part. To the best of my knowledge Celtic have not even been approached as to whether they would be interested. Quite obviously the Promotions Company needed to know whether or not the ground might be available before approaching any of the the Clubs.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 16/02/2010 13:50:01    562985

I was completely in favour of the opening of Croke Park and I still think it was a great idea.

But this game makes no sense. The Irish soccer and rugby teams as well as the Irish rugby clubs that used Croker makes sense as they would have had to leave the country to play and the GAA could not of let that happen. This would be a game between two British soccer teams.

I understand that these clubs want to increase their financial income from Ireland and coming here is a great way for them to exploit the Irish "fans" but I don't think the GAA should help them.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13816 - 16/02/2010 13:53:58    562991

it could be an interesting idea but the down sides are many. While most, well a lot of CFC fans are decent people, a weekend on the tear for the buckfast wing of the real ira would not go down well with those who have to live around croke park. If there was problems at the gameI would be worried how it would be reported by right wing tabloids in Glasgow. It's hard enough trying to get Glasgow kids interested without getting branded by association to ths event if it goes wrong. There is also no guarantee that english nationalist groups would not use the opportunity to damage our stadium.

I'm not sure that many more than 40,000 would attend. Not a lot of profit there once Robbie gets his wages.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 16/02/2010 14:34:48    563057

Well said Thistle, the whole thing would turn into a weekend on the rip by the bar stool republicans. Let them stay over in Scotland or whatever pubs the Irish ones frequent over here

pplocal (Tyrone) - Posts: 5878 - 16/02/2010 15:02:12    563116

Cant see it happening. It would be a farce.

JPM1981 (Kildare) - Posts: 825 - 16/02/2010 16:27:49    563259

two former great teams on the way down battling it out in a passionless game that has no meaning. sounds like a good plan

passerby (Tyrone) - Posts: 724 - 16/02/2010 17:39:39    563379

Liamwalkinstown
County: Dublin
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562630 Laflour, look up your history like a good boy, The "Irish/Catholic" team in Liverpool was Everton, not Liverpool. But hey dont let the facts get in the way of a good story!! Liverpool were founded by Orangemen! Fact.

Everton were founded by Methodists!Fact.

orange and blue (Tyrone) - Posts: 1080 - 16/02/2010 18:46:50    563475

PomeroyPlunkett
County: Tyrone
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563116 Well said Thistle, the whole thing would turn into a weekend on the rip by the bar stool republicans. Let them stay over in Scotland or whatever pubs the Irish ones frequent over here

Well Pomeroy, "bar stool republicans" it is then, as distinct I suppose from Republicans like your goodself. I have no doubt based on your posts that you are "The Real McCoy" the hero who kept the cause of freedom safe, On the Mountains of Pomeroy. I used to like the song but since I've been reading your posts I must say I've gone off it.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 16/02/2010 19:05:27    563496

do people really want croke park full of british soccer supporters, it would be chaos especially considering the unionist-nationalist background of the clubs and supporters involved

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 16/02/2010 19:13:48    563511

bad.monkey
County: USA
Posts: 1943

563511
do people really want croke park full of british soccer supporters, it would be chaos especially considering the unionist-nationalist background of the clubs and supporters involved

again bad.monkey your sporting knowledge is laughable. in fact liverpool and celtic supporters get on with each other. celtic were the first team to play liverpool after hillsbourough. when they met in th uefa a few years ago the whole of anfield sang YNWA with the celtic fans as celtic went through. i know, i was there. so i dont think liverpool and celtic fans with probably 70% irish fans there anyway will wreak croker.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11640 - 17/02/2010 09:02:48    563795

Good man yewtree. Typical bad.monkey post. In fact it wouldn't surprise me in the least if bad.monkey and PomeroyPlunkett were one and the same person. Just like Pomeroys last post, bad.monkey constantly uses the phrase barstool republicans to describe Celtic fans. I have also noticed quite a few similarities both in style and sentiment in their individual posts. bad.monkey has already been outed as a multiple poster and a WUM so its quite possible he is at it again.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/02/2010 10:22:32    563852

Listen lads Liverpool FC is not and never was an "Irish" or "catholic" club.
Google it. The Irish/Catholics in Liverpool historically always supported Everton. Now you might not like to hear that, but its the truth. As i said just google it. Its all there lads.
Religion never really came into it on merseyside but historically Everton were the "Irish" team on Merseyside. All that despite there being a protestant chapel on the grounds of Goodison Park (from before the stadium was built) which is still in use today.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 17/02/2010 11:23:32    563935

Liam nobody is claiming that Liverpool are an Irish Club and you are correct that certainly after the last war, The Catholic Irish in Liverpool certainly supported Everton whilst the Orangemen there supported Liverpool. However the sectarianism in Liverpool died out fairly quickly and soon Liverpool & Everton were just Football Teams no more and no less. It is also true that in recent years a very special friendship has emerged between Celtic and Liverpool supporters. I can absolutely guarantee you that I would feel a lot safer going to Anfield in a Celtic jersey then to Old Trafford.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 17/02/2010 11:52:29    563972