I have heard it all...the Tyrone boss is blaming live TV for his team's poor results in the National Football League and McKenna Cup.

So if that's the case for being beaten by Mayo and Derry in consecutive weeks then it is a poor excuse. Does that mean that victors are not affected too by the TV coverage?

lrvinestownGael (Fermanagh) - Posts: 847 - 15/02/2010 11:34:26    561470

Tyrone please wise up. what a load of bull blaming live tv. look at you players/management first cause thats where your problems are!

WestRules (Galway) - Posts: 271 - 15/02/2010 12:14:15    561542

couldnt agree with you more westrules

clintonscigar (Tyrone) - Posts: 166 - 15/02/2010 12:31:52    561563

Complete Rubbish Chat from Harte..

greeniegold (Donegal) - Posts: 113 - 15/02/2010 12:42:01    561581

Well the mighty must be truly falling when they resort to blaming the television for their demise.

Coa_gael (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1187 - 15/02/2010 13:00:51    561614

Its just something else for him to complain about, I don't even read his section in the Irish News any-more, its generally about how Tyrone are so mistreated..blah blah blah

Fr.Ted.Crilly (Derry) - Posts: 449 - 15/02/2010 13:06:54    561632

Where did he say that?

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 15/02/2010 13:07:28    561633

This time I have to 100% agree with Mickey, you can't suspend players using video evidence from televised games and do nothing after games that are not televised because any incidents are not on video!

sam2008 (Tyrone) - Posts: 799 - 15/02/2010 13:33:51    561679

One major flaw in your well thought out arguement shamgael...

Mickey Harte, or anyone else from Tyrone, has never blamed TV for their defeats have they???

Mickey stated that playin in a televised match can be a dis-advantage from a disciplinary point of view, as the CCCCC seem to come down harder on those games. A fair point which he was well within his rights to make.

And poor results in McKenna cup?? Was that refrence to the Fermanagh game? What was the score in that one again?

Anyway I should no better than to reply to a WUM like Shamgael, but I thought it was worth putting his half cooked arguement to bed saying there was a queue of thick-skulled posters from other counties lining up to agree with him!

Yer Man (None) - Posts: 286 - 15/02/2010 13:35:37    561685

what is this the jeremy kyle show?

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 15/02/2010 13:40:02    561696

if these incidents happened between kerry and dublin or 2 southern teams would there be these punishments? i personally think not. i think damian cassidys comments about this subject on hoganstand sum it up pefectly.

TheConwayInn (Tyrone) - Posts: 15 - 15/02/2010 14:38:59    561775

i think the master is deflecting criticism for the poor performances onto the ccc, few pundits in the papers have mentioned that rather than the football, well done the master i say sign of a good manager protecting his players. i wouldnt criticise him though on yesterdays performances he has to let the dog see the hair with regard to the young lads, and some of the 3 medal men are still in first gear. if you had three medals in your back pocket would you really give a **** about mayo in the kentucky fried chicken national league on a freezing cold day in omagh, doubt it.

reddoctor (Tyrone) - Posts: 1241 - 15/02/2010 14:56:03    561803

Here's an idea Mickey, teach your players discipline

Fr.Ted.Crilly (Derry) - Posts: 449 - 15/02/2010 15:16:58    561851

i think u will all find that damien cassidy was the first to come out and say that both tyrone and derry were disadvantaged for having live tv games and he was exactly right in what he said! teams that arent on the tv dont come under the same scrutiny and risk loosing players to suspensions for incidents that go on in every game and normally go unnoticed. As for tyrone loosing narowwly to mayo i thought it wasnt a bad result considering how week the Tyrone team was. As per usual irvinestown gael is jumpin on any bandwagon he can to throw some abuse at Tyrone even tho hes a Fermanagh man Tyrone seem to be the only team he watches. ??? at the moment there seems to be a lot of undue criticism thrown at tyronw from allot of the other counties the only reason i can think of is jealousy of our success over the last 8 years.

oma_ganuche (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 15/02/2010 15:37:28    561878

its a bit like blaming tv for tvs sake.the incidents that occurred were they worthy of suspension in the first place? have tyrone ever used tv evidence to get players off suspension, i wonder.

reddoctor (Tyrone) - Posts: 1241 - 15/02/2010 15:52:37    561906

Every GREAT MANAGER has there critics Ferguson/Wengar/Harte ITS NOT WHAT THEY SAY! ITS WHAT THEY ACHIEVE - this is the league and yes its important But Mickey has still got in this team to achieve a 4th All Ireland title so I don't really care what he say's as long he has the Red Hand( Ferrari) in tune come the Start of the Championship. Tir Eoghain abú!

DynamoDooher (Tyrone) - Posts: 423 - 15/02/2010 19:00:33    562227

reddoctor...your point doesn't stack up...mickeys point is that the application of viewing evidence on tv has to be equitable for all counties...he has stated that he does not have a problem with players being sanctioned if this is done equitably..when things are not done in an equitable manner, then this leads to discrimination and thus disadvantage...

and shamgael..you have come out of the woodwork at long last...so tell me sham...where exactly did mickey say being on tv led to the team being beaten..and i see your fellow travellers from other counties jumped on your bandwagon...pity none of you can read

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 15/02/2010 20:52:44    562479

WestRules
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561542 Tyrone please wise up. what a load of bull blaming live tv. look at you players/management first cause thats where your problems are!

What is wrong with the tyrone management, do you know who many all ireland tyrone have won under the management of mickey harte?

macd_90 (UK) - Posts: 14 - 16/02/2010 11:08:56    562710

mayotyroneman im not lambasting harte for his arguments re trial by tv. but our players should know that for 2 national league games they are going to be scrutinised and for all championship games tv will be used. weve been down this road with the kerry game last year and the derry match what have we learned nothing. have the ccc sprung this on us all of a sudden i think not. remember who really called the shots on our three suspended players from the derry match, who changed his view on reviewing the evidence. i didnt hear anyone lambasting him or anyone on this forum either, maybe it suits not to in case we have him in august. what do you think? its the so called victimisation rubbish of poor tyrone that gets us a bad name across the country. suck it up and get on with it, its an excuse, i dont think john o mahoney would have been using trevor mortimer as an excuse and the ccc if mayo had been beaten on sunday.
lets face it some of our so called hard defenders arent getting away with their old tricks hence the crying,play football stick to the rules there will be no problems.
the master wants and is a purveyor of total football (not dirty football) does/is he not.

reddoctor (Tyrone) - Posts: 1241 - 16/02/2010 11:15:17    562719

reddoctor - I'm sure you have been watching Gaelic Football for a number of years now tell me honestly do you feel that Justin, Conor and Marty deserved to be banned for a month, I'll also include E Bradley as well, because if so then our games are going to have serious problems. There was'nt a all out free for all fight there was'nt players being carried of the field covered in blood, this is Gaelic Football a rough tough physical game. If you have ever played Gaelic Football you will know getting the odd dig of the ball occours, but if a full bodied punch is thrown or elbow then that is different a red card and suspension will be automatic. I just feel some pundits can overblow small incidents out of all proportions and this is fundamentally wrong. I hope the GAA as a body sorts this mess out sooner rather than later.

TyroneUltra (Tyrone) - Posts: 307 - 16/02/2010 12:36:34    562844