I think it might be no harm for the shamedmodelman to have a look at the point that was made rather than trying to twist it.

Bannisteoir (Wexford) - Posts: 127 - 05/05/2010 16:15:40    638617

lads you don't want to be putting to much pressure on the minors.too much emphasis on underage is not good.look at galway for the last ten years.and clare only last weekend.kilkenny don't do it.cumerford was never a minor!! so relax a bit.led the lads hurl and with experience hopefully we'll get 6 or 7 seniors from that panal.it's realy 21-24 that the stars are made generally so cool it a bit

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3580 - 06/05/2010 13:55:01    639532

sorry doyler i disagree 100% if your good enough your old enough and the sooner a minor joins senior ranks the sooner he adapts the future seems to be bright enough on the hurling front if minded properly yoy said about comerford yeah maybe he didnt but look at shefflin power hogan cha and the the o halpins etc and joe canning cloonan kellys mcgraths etc

thekop (Wexford) - Posts: 220 - 06/05/2010 21:47:38    640257

if lads are exceptional talented\ playing college hurling \ senior hurling for club straight after minor i then d include them in the senior panel. wouldnt want to rush young lads though, theres a massive gap between minor and senior, i reckon give lads are year of playing under 21 and college hurling then id introduce them like what bonner is doing with eoin moore, shane tompkins, willie deveraux, paudie kelly, emmet kent, make them feel like there part of the squad but not quite ready to start yet.these lads need a year or 2 to harden them up and prepare them for the rigours of senior intercounty hurling.

cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 07/05/2010 17:59:00    640846

agree with that cragask....he tried john leacy and paudraig donnelly in challange games just before the walsh cup just to give them a look at where they will need to compete but i honestly feel you'll ruin lads if you rush thier developement.look at eoin doyle..i thought he was flying but the took him out for the real pressure games.what happens at that level at a young age can leave a lasting mark on them.i still say the cork game of 04 did huge damage to alot of our young hurlers of that time.lads that were so promising in leinster went off the map completely.but what a pool of players were looking at in the coming years if their potential converts to fine hurlers.like o'keefe,mcgovern,tomkins,moore.leacy,donnelly and even andrew shore i think will be really good.the backbone of our team has around 4 years left,namely rossi,roche,stamp,gizzy,quigley and rory jacob.if we can bring on these younger players enough in the next 2-3 years were looking at a formidable squad.before those lads above retire i'd really like to win division one.crazy saying it now i know but we got within 70 minutes of the final 3 years ago.if we can go this far back in that time we can improve that much in that time also..any views ???

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3580 - 07/05/2010 18:25:00    640870

well said doylerwex.
john leacy is a fantastic young hurler and i think bonner has done a fine job in the development of the harry keheos and eoin doyles of this world. andrew shore, skillwise and hurling wise is a long way short of where he needs to be to become a top hurler- he has all the physical attributes required and has shown glimpses of real potential but dont think he should be a starter right now. glynn barntown could be a surprise package in the county champioships, they have craig doyle, john leacy, padraig donnely hurling for them- hopefully they all continue to develop.

as regards eoin doyle- i think he has been immense and really felt for the lad when he was dropped for the league final- i think doing that will damage his confidence more than starting and having a bad game. sometimes a lad being roasted and thrown in the deep end can teach them more- if you feel there good enough throw them in the deep end and see. of course you'd be wary about doing it but in eoin doyles case, having hurled so well in every league game and againts clare in ennis, i felt it was harsh not starting him in the final.totaly understand the desicion and it was vindicated but if roche aint fit for galway- doyle should start.i wouldnt even consider bringing travers back- hes a good hurler and decent wing back but as regards a corner back- no way-he is far to loose and casual and has been given to many roastings by too many players to consider it happening again. my team for galway would be(right now- injuries), n carton-e doyle- k rossiter- c kenny- m travers-d stamp- r keheo- pj nolan- c farrell- d lyng- e quigley- t waters- k keheo( play him as a third midfielder), s banville- r jacob... if roche were fit id start him ahead of travers and bring kenny back out to half back line.. p roche if fit- should mark irla tannian and doyle on hayes- speed with speed. i know itd be a risk ( cork 04) but having been so impressive during the league & showing this amount of faith in him would give him huge confidence- hopefully he would repay it with an inspired performance.

cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 07/05/2010 18:54:55    640905

next year we should just focus not being relegated- survival will be achieved by winning our home games and beating offaly\ dublin\waterford and giving the other games a good lash. maybe in 2\3 years we can be realistic about challenging for division 1 titles- lot of work to be done before then.

cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 07/05/2010 18:58:07    640908

we hurl dublin in parnell park on 26th of june..dubs bet carlow yesterday by 2 points..

class1984 (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 16/05/2010 11:10:46    648244

Something totally wrong there that we don't get home advantage.
Dublin get a second bite at the cherry and then get home advantage.
I know I wouldn't be complaining if it was the other way around but in the back of my mind I'd still know there was something not right about that.
The home advantage is a huge thing for these young fellas.

ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 16/05/2010 11:20:52    648248

its a disgrace that we dont get home advantage. really doesnt make any sense what so ever. how and ever, wel beat dublin regardless of where its played. talented team mixed in with hard work and a fiercely determined manager- succes.

cragask (Wexford) - Posts: 892 - 16/05/2010 14:36:06    648425

Hope you are right but home advantage is a huge thing for these young fellas.

ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 17/05/2010 12:05:02    649371

hold on now a second boys ,ger doyle and his county board made no effort to bring the football game to wexford park it would have filled wexford park to the rafters so i cant see them losing too much sleep over a minor hurling game .once again wexford get the wrong side of the draw ,does not suprise me really be better preparation for kilkenny if they can take the dubs in parnell show great team win twice away from home

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 17/05/2010 12:09:27    649380

its great to see minors hurling seinor with there clubs, ian byrne was excellent for ferns on sunday & rhys clarke scored 1-03 for harriers against olygate on
sunday evening, most of the current minor panel all play adult hurling with there clubs this is going 2 make them much more better hurlers....

class1984 (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 18/05/2010 15:02:43    650989

yeah good to see alright. I thought Clarke would have made the starting line up of the minor team. hes a big strong fella with lightning pace and creates and scores goals too

mondred (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 18/05/2010 18:21:27    651295

A good club team wouldn`t need minors on their team.. The fact that a lad who can`t get on the minor team is able to get on harriers team points to why they can`t beat oilgate

leftcorner (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 18/05/2010 21:11:42    651571

wont agree with you there leftcorner,clarke is a minor again next year & has came on in all minor challange & championship games this year & has been hurling very well with his minor club team this year..as i said its great to see these fella's hurling seinor.

class1984 (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 19/05/2010 10:20:25    651754

clarke is a far better footballer than hurler

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 19/05/2010 19:02:33    652581

Don`t disagree class84 but a big town with one senior hurling club shouldn`t need a 17 year old on the team.. Would it happen in KK/Galway/Waterford/Tipp.. Maybe if the kid was a superstar???

leftcorner (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 19/05/2010 21:29:44    652825

sure mabe he is leftcorner..ya you could be right bogstandard ive seen him playing football hes not to bad.i hear aswell hes a very good golfer playing off 5 handicap.

class1984 (Wexford) - Posts: 229 - 19/05/2010 21:43:31    652855

he is a very very good hurler.and he is a better footballer but he's never wanted to do anything other than hurl for wexford.that 5 has to be a junior handicap coz i've played golf with him..........he defo isn't a 5

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3580 - 20/05/2010 11:21:51    653067