Bitter wee Man

Underhand tactics?? Please elaborate........

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 04/11/2010 13:35:14    809455

Lets just say i hope the players out on the pitch accurately reflect the players names written on the match-card....if you know what i mean....

bitter_wee_man (Fermanagh) - Posts: 15 - 05/11/2010 08:58:44    810012

bitter wee man- i started this forum so if you dont like it clear off! im not affiliated to any club due to all the clubs disregard for bringing home grown talent through the ranks and concentrating on signing up every irish man that sets foot on british soil. but all the same good luck to st peters anyway! i think this could be the highlight of their season as they wont progress in the all ireland series if they are victorious on sunday.

any word of who is managing the county team next year? serious work needs to be done if they are to make any impression on the all ireland series- IF- they retain father o'donnell cup, they were nowhere near as fit as kerry that day. could be a big ask to win the o'donnell again, london will have taken a good look at themselves after last yrs defeat and steadied the ship. if you ask me there is to much inter club politics involved in the county set up.

horsebox45 (UK) - Posts: 38 - 05/11/2010 13:09:57    810227

Horsebox, I don't usually bite back on this, but ur writing complete gibberish.
Many clubs in Lancashire really attempt to promote football to their youth and bring them through, as can be seen with Oisins, Brendan's, Lawrence's and mostly St Annes, who are doing a great job with their improving team and British born players….
Obviously every club attempts to attract new players over, why would they not? These fellas have as much right to continue the game they were brought up playing and will join a club so clearly most clubs will want them, but as far as I see the underage structure is fairly strong and improving.
Trying to come across the right way here, but one problem with some of the British born is they are not willing to wait and learn their game better, get physically stronger and then get their place in these clubs. It's not easy for them competing at the age of 17-21 with lads comin over of age 24+ from Ireland playin all their lives at a higher standard, and some loose patience and heart.

And on the County set-up, I hope its exactly the same as last year, u clearly don't have any idea on what your on about with regards to them.
Every game the county went into most had them writ off, they got little to no support, in particular in the all Britain final where their supporters could be counted on two hands. Bar the Oisin ladies who had just won their all britain just before.
They were as fit as needed, only it seemed they ran out of steam from playin unfortunately with a man down for ¾'s of the game. Who knows what would have happened 15 v 15.
What Inter club politics?? Possibly the most ridiculous comment of all.
The management in place were the best for the job and cannot be called biased to anyone, excellently drilled, sharp and bonded as can be seen by the spread of players from every club. The management went with what they thought were the best players for each position regardless of club.

StoneCowboy (UK) - Posts: 15 - 05/11/2010 16:29:28    810384

Seems as though a lot of rubbish is being talked on here, especially about inter-club politics within counties regarding county managers. Think you'll find that very few people want the manager's job. Managers often have to be coerced or even forced into the job. It can be very frustrating for a manager to go to scheduled games so he have a look at potential players only to learn (often too late) the game has been called off, or, if the game is played, the potential players aren't available. Also, when in post, the manger sends messages to clubs requesting their players attend training, but turn-outs are low, due to, either, the club not passing the message on, or players cannot be bothered to turn up. How many mangers can only pick a team just before county game because, only then, does he know who he has available? The onus has to be on clubs to ensure players make themselves available, not just for games, but for training as well.

Carnaross (None) - Posts: 189 - 06/11/2010 09:35:02    810679

Sheehan - Peters

O'Shea - Peters
Gibney - Brendans
Kincaid - Peters

Vahey - Peters
S Gallagher - Peters
Molumby - Brendans

R Gallagher - Peters
Mulligan - Mitchells

Meaney - Peters
McDermott - Mitchells
Corcoran - Peters

O'Neill - Peters
Treanor - Mitchells
D Gallagher - Peters

It very peters but theyve proven they are the best so its well earned. congrats on yesterdays victory St Peters

bigfoot11 (UK) - Posts: 2 - 08/11/2010 12:54:09    811879

the only way that these english players will not lose heart is if the county board make it a rule that each team has to have a certain number of english born players in their starting line ups for each game. the influx of blow ins does nothing to help the long term future of the game in britain. if it means the standard falling then so be it.
well done to st peters, i might be wrong in saying this but i dont think they have 1 single english born player in their starting 15. how can a team represent britain when they are all irish, it doesnt make sense some how.

in other news...... a st brendans club member has been seen spreading fertiliser on the hough end pitch, seemingly in an attempt to try and slow the st peters lads down on sunday- brendans will need more than a bag of fertiliser to get anywhere near the newly crowned all 'britain' champions!

horsebox45 (UK) - Posts: 38 - 11/11/2010 13:12:11    814188

"how can a team represent britain when they are all irish"

Well in that case, how can a team from Britain play in an All-Ireland championship?

If a player was born in Cork but moved to Dublin, should they not be allowed to play for a club in Dublin to give the Dublin lads a chance?

St. Peters are representing the British teams but I don't think the fact that they may be all Irish should have any relevance. The club is in Britain and that is enough. It's an IRISH game and the competition is the All-IRELAND championship. To introduce a rule to tell players that they can't play in this championship because they are IRISH seems really unfair.

all_over (UK) - Posts: 8 - 11/11/2010 16:23:37    814374

I agree with Horsebox in that their should be a rule for say 3-4 players on each championship team in Britain to have British born players, or players that have solely played for that particular club. I heard rumours of such a plan 2-3 years ago.
This would be hard to introduce tho, esp for the stronger teams Mitchels and Peters who dont have the underage structures in place to cope with it.
Tho I hear they are trying to turn this round.
This would really give the local lads more playing time and will bring them on leaps and bounds. Funnily the teams that didnt make the champioship final would easily be able to cope with such a ruling!!
And this would have to be a UK ruling not a Lancashire one as it will be of detrement to teams coming into the All Britain games.
Short term thinking may lead to short term success, but long term plans may lead to a stronger club.

Tony_Soprano (UK) - Posts: 28 - 11/11/2010 16:26:33    814375

happened to watch the league final yesterday, the game can be described in one word- pants! lets just say it wasnt easy on the eye. in some ways i blame the ref, at least two players should have got the line for rugby/ufc style tackling, i mean what sort of training do these guys do as you would have thought some of them have never played the game before. 21 yard frees missed, penalties missed. overweight players.... the list goes on. then someone from the county board coming round asking for donations, the spectators should have been paid for their woes!!!! shows that the standard in manchester is dire. well thats my rant over.

when do peters play in the all ireland series? im sure that will be another classic!

horsebox45 (UK) - Posts: 38 - 15/11/2010 13:24:56    816782

Who won the league final yesterday?
Any final scores or reports on the game??

Tony_Soprano (UK) - Posts: 28 - 15/11/2010 14:17:35    816838

St Peters play Parke from County Mayo Provisional date 28 November. Subject to alteration

gaelic kenny (Kerry) - Posts: 8 - 15/11/2010 14:24:59    816842

Where and what time is the game being played?

Liverpool2 (UK) - Posts: 43 - 15/11/2010 14:37:09    816854

Peters beat Brendans by 1-13 to 1-7

was level at 1-4 at half time.

Peters fitness told in the end

Take_yer_points (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 15/11/2010 15:28:48    816896

Peter's -v- Parke is to take place 5th December at 2 pm in Bedians

tyronemanc (Tyrone) - Posts: 163 - 15/11/2010 17:17:03    816973

have to agree with horsebox on this one brendans were very rusty and it told in their handling and they made some very basic mistakes peters wernt up to much either maybe the celebrations after the all britain taking its toll but in the end there superior fitness won true! and as for the ref the have to agree with horsebox again which i must say is a rarity! he was very whistle happy but at the same time never really punished players for some atrocious tackles and as such players fouled at will which certainly did not add to the spectacle! think you have 2 ask why such a young ref was in charge of a final like this even the there isnt really any good refs around you have 2 feel one of the older lads would have had better control of the game and been stronger when he needed to be!

hardyweman (UK) - Posts: 13 - 16/11/2010 18:18:43    817790