Barnabas will be good for the win by 4/5

indecisive (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 04/07/2010 10:10:20    695405

Casements beaten by Mitchels, by 4 in the end, ref was awful, really went to town on Casements, sent one of their lads off when really Mitchels should've been down to 12 or 13 by the end.

I'd imagine neither team will be in the mix up on this form.

bishopbrennan (UK) - Posts: 26 - 04/07/2010 18:20:40    695822

who was the ref in the JM v RC game ??? Any score from EGB & St.Barnabus game ???

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 04/07/2010 21:46:26    696160

From what I've heard, Barnabas beat EGB well, Harrigan sent off. EGB would need to beat Macs now to go through, tough proposition for them. Fair play the Barnabas lads, they've shown that they're not all talk. What odds on them winning the group now?

I think the eventual winner will come out of this group. I think Barnabas will win the group, but will fall in the final to Macs.

bishopbrennan (UK) - Posts: 26 - 05/07/2010 09:32:29    696251

Martin Coen was the ref (I the term "ref" very loosely) in the JM v RC game.

Should of sent the RC corner back of aswell for a blatent kick after he got turned inside out for the goal.

doire93 (Derry) - Posts: 61 - 05/07/2010 10:13:12    696300

Bishopbrennen

There was two punches, an elbow and a kick all by casements. Only one was punished so i think he did you a favour. Also how many frees were you given??

warwick (UK) - Posts: 15 - 05/07/2010 10:23:39    696321

Revised odds:

Macs 5/4
JM's 3/1
StB 3/1
RC 7/1
EGB 8/1
FM 12/1

balancedopinion (UK) - Posts: 40 - 05/07/2010 10:24:13    696322

Final score for the EGB v Barnabas game was 1-9 to 4-8. Great game to watch, was a bit shaky for the Barnabas lads at the start with EGB putting 4 or 5 wide but they soon got into it and took advantage of good bits of play and EGB mistakes. Well done Barnabas.

Mutual (UK) - Posts: 14 - 05/07/2010 10:48:34    696359

Was down with the family at the EGB game , watched the junior match before hand as well , couldnt beleive what i was seeing towards the end of the junior game , the senior teams came out for their warm ups with Barnabas setting up some drills behind the goals , the EGB lads came out and started playing on the bouncy castle that was beside the pitch.
Some of them were eatin burgers before the game as well , and they didnt really seem to know if they were preparing for a championship match or having a barbeque in the sun.
Barnabas started a bit dodgy but soon settled down taking thier goal chances well , EGB were all over the place with Friel playing in at full foward and getting no ball at all.
It was only when he returned to mifdfield that EGB started to play , to late by this stage with the game really over at half time . Four first half Barnabas goals , then they just seen the game out in the second half.
EGB manager no where to be seen on the day , it was quite clear that the team had no leadership without his presence on the sideline.

knowle (Roscommon) - Posts: 82 - 05/07/2010 11:58:25    696476

Referee was poor in the EGB Barnabus game. He gifted them 2 goals which were square balls.

haroldbishop (UK) - Posts: 46 - 05/07/2010 12:07:35    696482

haroldbishop the ref did not gift Barnabas any goals , EGB gifted them the goals , however they were well put away by the barnabas lads

knowle (Roscommon) - Posts: 82 - 05/07/2010 12:24:49    696507

JM/RC was a battle. I think the Ref got a lot of stick but who would want to do his job especially in championship games like that?!

The red card for the casements lad was a straight red no doubt, but it could easily have been a match that ended 13-a-side.

Who takes JM frees off the ground? great tekkers!!

HowstheHorse (UK) - Posts: 81 - 05/07/2010 12:38:04    696535

haroldbishop - what game were you watching? do you understand the square ball rule - the player actually has to be in the square when the ball is kicked in, seems like the age old lazy argument of "square ball!" to be claimed any time a high ball comes in and the attacker is in or around the general vicinity of the square. some people in warwickshire need to understand the rules a bit better than making stupid claims at the refs in matches. Barnabas were fortunate in the first half though to be gifted at least 2 of the goals by the EGB defence and keeper. ref did well i thought, called up on a fair few handpasses which were legitimate though - its an underhand striking action, doesnt necessarily have to be closed fist

andquick (UK) - Posts: 60 - 05/07/2010 12:43:03    696549

For any championship game ideally there should be 4 neutral umpires who can assist the referee. Not suggesting that anyone of foul play but when a referee asks a non-neutral umpire their opinion on a decision in many case the opinion will not be the fair one.

As for the game yesterday, barnabas were very good value for their win. Very well organised and slick unit. Although two of their goals came from farcical passages of play by EGB backs. As for EGB, very disappointed with them, lacked organsiation and heart. Some very young lads on the team too.

Lethal (Derry) - Posts: 281 - 05/07/2010 15:22:56    696866

I agree about the umpires...... but whos truly 100% neutral? Im sure certain teams would rather see some teams win than others, so you'd almost have to look outside the county for it to be 100% neutral. But obviously that isnt feasible.

doire93 (Derry) - Posts: 61 - 05/07/2010 15:32:08    696888

same for the lino's.

You only get a sideline ball if it goes out on the same side as your subs and managers are standing.

doire93 (Derry) - Posts: 61 - 05/07/2010 15:38:43    696909

Warwick - Our player was sent off, and rightly so. It was a drag down foul, nothing more and he reacted. In the same incident another Mitchells lad came in and struck quite clearly as our lad was over the other Mitchells player and should have went as well. The ref didn't 'see' 2 kicks from Mitchells, one from number 5 who constantly fouled and the 2nd from number 6. A few times there were altercations but nothing more. And yes the cornerback acted inappropriately after the goal.

The ref was very poor and this is in general, neither side have any respect for the way he wears down the 10 square metres of turf in the middle of the park.

thesilentone (UK) - Posts: 146 - 05/07/2010 15:55:05    696944

Ref in the casements v mitchels games thinks he is reffing soccer and not gaelic unfortunately no tackle from behind, slide tackles ok etc etc. However the ref wasnt all to blame for this game being poor - both teams didnt look sharp & i dont think the tight pitch at holbrooks helps as the game becomes very compacted. In fairness the sending off had a big bearing on the game as both teams were evenly matched up until this stage. Mitchels were dominating midfield anyway up until the sending off but they dominated it completely for the last 20 minutes after the sending off. However they couldnt use the extra man to create the scores and only got the goal and point late on to win it. Agree the casements lad had to go but mitchels half back deserved to go as well and mitchels got away with a lot off the ball as well. Stronger ref would have had more control i suppose. Mitchels will top the group now but their forwards would need to improve greatly if they are to challenge. Casements need a massive improvement on this performance to do anything. Think we would be looking to the other group for the county champions this year.

Also why after the ref appointed 4 neutral umpires did mitchels manage to have 2 umpires! There was great debate if the ball was over the line at the end of the game and of course the mitchels man wasnt going to give it. Isnt there a byelaw that all championship matches to have neutral officails?

tommy g (None) - Posts: 171 - 05/07/2010 16:49:20    697064

All referees should be of a reasonable standard to be appointed to senior games, what passed for refereeing in coventry yesterday was a disgrace.
I'm sure both teams went out to play football, even if it was on a tennis court. no changing facilities for players and then travel back to PNH for a shower.
The frustration caused by the ref in this game turned it into a farce, every time a michells player touched the ball it seemed he blew for a free in the first half.
There were thirty two frees against michells and five against casements in the first half it was almost the same in the second half except it was casements who were on the receiving end, and yes there were strong challenges from both sides, this is championship not league, macs have set the bar for challenges and every other team is following suit.
At the end of the day michells won the game by four points but in all honesty with the possesion they had in the first half the game would have been over but for the referee.

On the point of Michells two umpires.
Just before the throw in the referee came to us and asked for two umpires and a linesman, whom he then proceeded to ignore.
we had difficulty finding anyone to do it.
In fact it beggers belief that the ref had no umpires, then again maybe not. they know him.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 05/07/2010 17:59:44    697172

alot of talk on here about referees yes referee in our game against casements was awful but at the end of the day if casements had of been playing to now they still wouldnt of won!!! from what i heard about the ering go bragh game and barnabas referee got everything spot on he may of been a bit harsh on hand passing, and it seemed barnabas looked very good

Michael_Lyster (Tyrone) - Posts: 37 - 05/07/2010 18:15:43    697210