Ciarrai Abu
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543086 The new rules do not suit the Northern style of play its as simple as that, as they encourage a more 'Classic' game ................... I say Bravo, its about time the GAA done something to get rid of the eye soar that Northern teams have tryed to introduce into the GAA in recent years!!!!


I would argue the mark suits Down. Marty Clarke & Dan Gordon will win ball against most teams.

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 26/01/2010 20:54:38    543453

Funny how its only Tyrone posters who seem to be against the mark. Annoyed that this tactic of swarming the catcher isnt going to work anymore.

I think the mark is a good idea. There is nothing worse than when a midfielder makes a spectacular catch, only to come down and be surrounded by 3 or 4 opposition players who made no attempt to contest the ball. Thats what it will serve to do, players will go up and contest the ball rather than giving up and employing swarm tactics once he comes down.

The ref's need to sit down and come up with an effective way of dealing with the aftermath of the catch. I think a whistle should be blown to inidate to other players to back off, and the catcher is then giving 5-7 seconds to do what he likes with the ball. What cannot happen is a player catching the ball with forward momentum and then being called back to take the free. I think it will be a success once a general rule is being implemented.

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 27/01/2010 09:04:59    543601

Can someone please tell me who is mark??

athiabu (Kildare) - Posts: 157 - 27/01/2010 10:26:04    543654

Anyone any idea when this "who is mark" joke will get funny?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 27/01/2010 10:51:17    543677

ja fallon,ciarrai abu andcolin wex...have you been to any of the matches yet?...the mark does not enablemore open play...already teams have learned to funnellplayers back when a player catches the ball,so that the kicker then has no-one to kick to, and there is no spare man available..the result is an aimless punt upfield...and boys listen tyrone does not depend on a swarm around midfield...their ability to winning breaking ball is what stands out in their play, and when tyrone catch the ball at midfield as they often do,our players are skilled enough to fin a spare man or work their way free, which enables the team to retain posession,and move the ballforward quickly...tyromemen are against it because it stops our free flowing football...maybe thats why you're all against it..

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 27/01/2010 15:47:34    544024

The mark is a great idea and I think 90% of posters would agree with that.

The problem is the way its being implemented by the GAA and also by referees. A player should have the option to catch and stop, or catch and run.
Typically, the GAA have stopped short of a real advance in the rules of the game - probably because a truly Aussie Rules type mark (i.e. where a player can run on if he wants) would be thought of as encouraging or dare I say it, mimicing a foreign game.

I also happen to think that the game would benefit from:

5 rolling subs
players being put "on report" or "cited" for foul play either by the ref or by review
any players that has been suspended canot win player of the year
if there is an appeal and it fails, ban is doubled
appeals are heard by one panel and a code of conduct is adhered to. If you play the game, you abide by its rules. No outside appeals to court
suspensions mean games not weeks/months
yellow/red cards carry
open draw/champs league format - dump the provincials, they're rubbish
National league performance decides seeding for Championship - promoted sides from Div 2 are seeded 1, relegated teams from Div 1 are seeded 2 and so on

Fine, the last 2 will not happen for many many years, but the rest would probably be of benefit.

Anyone have any thoughts on these?

diablodeKingdom (Kerry) - Posts: 210 - 03/02/2010 14:56:39    550432

Ciarrai Abu
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Just to add the rest so new rules doing us no harm.

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 03/02/2010 17:33:10    550695

diablodeKingdom

I agree with your ideas. Some of them will take a long time to be accepted.

blu (Down) - Posts: 1240 - 03/02/2010 18:28:37    550792

diablodeKingdom

Only one i agree with is bans but the must be giving out the same . The rest is aussie rule and the gaa is not about that .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 03/02/2010 19:13:37    550858

This was posted as a new thread.

We saw numerous examples of brilliant high fielding from ronan mcgarritty at the weekend. The mark has to stay! Its a terrific rule!

Administrator (None) - Posts: 535 - 08/02/2010 14:19:11    555035

It can only stay if the player has the option to play on or stop and take the free.

Dr.Shephard (Leitrim) - Posts: 2187 - 08/02/2010 14:26:00    555045

In the couple of games i have seen the mark only seems to be given if the ball is fielded over a players head, is that the rule or is it just the refs interpretation

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 14:41:00    555072

have to say i like it. It encourages high fielding and also adds a new aspect to thye game, of the player rushing to the ball before it bounces. Fergal doc slid in on his knees to catch a ball about a foot from the ground on saturday, which is a skill in itself.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 08/02/2010 14:42:09    555073

It was explained properly on Sunday Sport last night and I think it makes sense the way they are doing it.
It's basically like having an advantage rule.
If the ref thinks you have it under control he'll let you play on.
If he thinks you are going to be tackled he'll blow up for the mark.
As far as the player is concerned, he should basically behave no differently than he did before the rule was brought in i.e. catch the ball and keep playing,
If he gets stuck the ref will blow the whistle.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 08/02/2010 15:34:42    555140

Derry_ledd
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555073 have to say i like it. It encourages high fielding and also adds a new aspect to thye game, of the player rushing to the ball before it bounces. Fergal doc slid in on his knees to catch a ball about a foot from the ground on saturday, which is a skill in itself.

Derry Ledd, that was a great catch by Fergal but all in all, do you think this mark is going to make much difference? There were 3 marks on Saturday night and one was a foot of the ground, McGinley and then the Diver (I think) who then lost it by giving it to another man to take. Overall, I have decided that I am not bothered either way as it hasn't increased the amount of catches nor slowed the game down. It gives someone who does catch it an advantage alright and I suppose that was one of the aims, however it will not and does not increase the amount of high catches

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 08/02/2010 21:30:16    555801

omaghredhand
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Does the catch have to be actually overhead to merit a mark?

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 08/02/2010 21:44:56    555840

Agree Omagh Redhand that it does not seem to seem to increase the amount of high catches. In fact i think sometimes it played against derry who were not expecting the balls to be broken and tyrone were there to pick up the breaks.

Saying that though, it still ensures that someone who makes the catch is rewarded. I picture the last minute of a championship match and a game say level or in the balance. A big catch in midfield could be the difference in winning or losing, in that case it could be great to see.

I was sceptical at first, but am coming around to this rule now.

Derry_ledd (Derry) - Posts: 2093 - 09/02/2010 10:26:39    555973

The Mark is going to be implemented into this years championship...

As players and refs get fully use to the idea it will really benefit Gaelic Football....

The mark is here to stay..

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 09/02/2010 12:06:49    556088

Horse, I don't think so, as Doherty's catch was after he slid around 3-4 foot and caught the ball before it hit the ground. Brilliantly done.

Derry Ledd, I agree that it does provide an advantage and that it should do. As I have said previously, there are rules that are already there to do this but they do not appear to be implemented and therefore probably makes this change necessary.

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 09/02/2010 13:48:22    556181

The mark won't increase the amount of high fielding at all. It's very evident even so far that "big" men are being targetted whereby there's an even greater attempt to break the ball away. Good keepers are also beginning to find wingbacks with relatively low kicks into space: not the original intention of the traditionalists, I assume.

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 09/02/2010 13:53:54    556189