Techy 77,not every player wants to leave their club only Fennell does!! The GAA will not fall apart if Fennell leaves O'Tooles. How can an amatuer club own Eamonn Fennell? At the end of the day GAA is an amatuer sport and as such is a hobby which means one can play for whoever they like. The courts would destroy the Dublin County Board on this issue, no doubt

PC27 (Dublin) - Posts: 78 - 28/01/2010 17:35:41    545177

You seem very enthusaiastic to get to the courtroom to destroy the GAA as a whole. Are you that much of a fair weather fan that you haven't realise this is not just about Eamonn Fennell, O'Tooles or Dublin winning Sam as some people believe. Its about protecting clubs all over the country. Its about protecting the game and cutting out the corruption that has crept in to Dublin GAA. Its not a DCB bye law that this case was rejected on either! Also nobody is claiming ownership of anyone either where did you see that?

oh and I wouldn't be so confident on your big day in court as this is not corporate law it just ask a few ladies out Portmarnock way they'll tell you!

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 28/01/2010 19:02:03    545319

pc thats not my point.i know and have spoke to the player.he is and has been told by dublin selector,s that he would be better off moving away from otooles if he wants to make it as a dublin player.do u think thats ok? To tell a lad who wants to play for his county it wont happen because of the club u play for. I hope he gets his move and makes it big as a dublin player.but he is turning his back on a club and community who are very proud of him and how well he is doing.al because of bad advice.otooles dont want to stop him playing.they want him to stay for all the kids and ppl of the community that are proud that one of there own is doing so wel.surely thats what the gaa is all about.not just winning medals.good luck to him and st vincents.hope the home grown vincents midfield who he replaces doesnt feel let down by his own club.

techy77 (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 28/01/2010 20:51:07    545469

I thought that freedom of choice and expression were cornerstones of the great institution that is the GAA. Loyalty to your local club is all very admirable and all of that but these guys are professionals in everything but name these days. To treat them like kids and in the manner that the Fennell situation is being handled is shocking. Why should a player's inter-county career and attempts to progress his club career be handicapped by a single vote cast among a bunch of semi-officials quoting a law that they themselves made up and which doesn't exist in the umbrella organisation's rulebook?

Maybe a blanket ban on all transfers, regardless of age, location, outside influences etc. is the answer. I think that once players are aware of that from a young age then the issue will never crop up again and there can be no more farcical DCC split decision votes.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 28/01/2010 20:55:58    545477

That 'home grown midfielder' is probably a certain kerryman.

pigonastick (Dublin) - Posts: 487 - 29/01/2010 08:42:12    545650

Regarding emmon fennell leaving the club. its out of the hands otooles and in the hands of dublin county board.
so all your arguments should be put to the county board and not otooles.otooles had every right to object as the man
is such a talent to any team. so people that slagging otooles have no right to do so.
at the end of day its the county board that has all the power in dublin gaa.

charlodublin (Dublin) - Posts: 2 - 29/01/2010 11:15:49    545768

Dont think anybody is coming out well from this debacle. How often would fennell line out for O'Tooles from noww til the summer? Not alot, therefore if the majority of his training and playing is in the county jersey (correct me if I'm wrong please) how are O'Tooles really scuppering his development. Personally I wouldnt be bothered winning county/all ireland club championship with anyone other than my own club but different strokes for different folks i guess.

O'Tooles are hardly covering themselves in glory either - who really wants a lad who doesnt want to be at the club anyway?

if it ends up in legal arena its an absolute disaster for the organisation

BlueSon2010 (Dublin) - Posts: 23 - 29/01/2010 11:34:53    545800

What are you stammering about. its already a legal issue. no.2 all ths media attention that emmon has brought to the table which most of it is lies has done him no favours whats so ever.listen lad you go by the papers and believe what you want.whats happening in dublin football is wrong. hand picked managers and hand picked players. everyone thinks fennell is the answer.what if i mean IF eamon doesnt step up to the mark in championship.you wouldnt care which club he played for after that.so keep your poxy legal comments to yourself.ps.dublin football has and will always been in the main light.this is no different.
pps. 56 tranfers in the last 10years in the whole of ireland 46 in dublin thats not right.

charlodublin (Dublin) - Posts: 2 - 29/01/2010 14:12:03    546004

charlodub"What are you stammering about. its already a legal issue..... so keep your poxy legal comments to yourself. "
this is not in the court yet clown, keep your poxy comments to yourself

charlodub "listen lad you go by the papers and believe what you want."
fact is player wants to go, does not want to play for your club, media hype has nothing to do with it. youre like john terrys missus just let it go

charlodub"everyone thinks fennell is the answer. what if i mean IF eamon doesnt step up to the mark in championship.you wouldnt care which club he played for after that."
Ive never said he was he answer and he remains a long way off the "mark", nor did i say i wanted him to move clubs, he could play junior 8s for all i care if he's good enough he'll be selected for the county.

End of the day its an amateur sport he can move as he see's fit to whom every he so chooses. wouldnt be my choice but we live in a republic. I kniow it isnt nice having a lad leave your club after so much help&development has been provided to him but dont take it personally. my own club has been pillaged a nuber of times, get over it.

BlueSon2010 (Dublin) - Posts: 23 - 30/01/2010 15:22:38    546864

Fennell should just get on with it was play with OTooles,there a mentality in Dublin that you have to play for a "big club" to play with dublin,I never saw Ciaran Whelan put transfer into bigger club ,He stayed loyal to Raheny known he probably wouldnt be winning senior championship or Division 1 titles with his club.Darragh Stapleton from last years dublin minors team has refused to play with his club St Pats Palmerstown,last year he applied for transfer to St Brigids and this year he applied transfer to Lucan,he wont be allowed play with 21s this year,certain clubs in Dublin seem more interesting importing players than developing players,would Vincents have won the 2008 Club All Ireland without Micheal OSe and the couple Mayo lads?,while Kilmacud Crokes 13/15 which won 2009 club champ came through juvenile ranks,would they have beat Crossmaglen without Brian Kavanagh(Longford) and Adrian Morrisey(Wexford)?,now we have Parnells and Plunketts bringing in country lads who using excuse there living in Dublin and wont travel home for club games yet are able to tog out for their county,County Board should be looking at these transfers too as there are drestroying dublin football

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 03/02/2010 18:02:42    550758

for all the people who bad mouthed otooles on this page.read the startement they issued.now its not a case of otooles stopping him play.its a case of him turning his back on his community

techy77 (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 04/02/2010 08:37:06    551115

O'Tooles got relegated to intermediate football (AFL3) today when they were beaten in a playoff by BSJ. A player, in whom they invested significant time and resources from an early age to become the player he is, refused again to play for them and instead played for the Dubs. Our Clubs are key to strenghtening our Association and today, regardless of the recent dignified statement from O'Tooles the County Board, Pat Gilroy and in particular Eamonn Fennell should hang their collective heads in shame

hfxoc (Dublin) - Posts: 5 - 07/02/2010 17:25:01    554081

well said hfxoc........ shameful what is happening here

bluejay (Dublin) - Posts: 47 - 07/02/2010 19:19:13    554287

After his performance yesterday every club in dublin should be looking for him

sexyface (Kildare) - Posts: 175 - 08/02/2010 13:20:45    554951

let croker decide where he goes, and goodluck to him whereever he ends up

Frainc (Dublin) - Posts: 178 - 10/02/2010 14:12:40    557480

He should be allowed to go where he feels.. Liam is absolutely right to say that this ongoing Saga is doing the County team no favours.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 10/02/2010 16:02:55    557630

Rubbish Techy 77, has GAA ever being truly community based in the capital? There are many people living in housing estates who would not have a clue who there local GAA club was. If I was a Dublin Senior footballer, you can be sure that there would be many in my housing estate who would be unaware of the fact I play for Dublin. O'Tooles are simply being unreasonable in this case. I am sure O'Tooles have got players in on transfer in the past.

PC27 (Dublin) - Posts: 78 - 10/02/2010 17:53:14    557840

Fennell is supposedly moving to a club in Laois for the year so next year he can transfer to any club in Dublin.

thetown (Laois) - Posts: 79 - 16/02/2010 18:01:05    563413

I think if you check up on that you will find that he has to transfer back to his old club in Dublin.I believe this all started because he was advised by the last Dublin management team that in order to play for the county he would have to play for a club where football is played more than hurling.People forget that O'Tooles reached the quarter finals of the championship last year and with Fennell playing they could have gone further.Anyway it is a bit messy now and whatever the outcome there will be bad feelings there that will last a lifetime.

Frances56 (Dublin) - Posts: 378 - 19/02/2010 10:30:36    566475