St Peters to win South Leinster--- with the likes of Donal Shanley and James Cash we can't be stopped

stfintans (Wexford) - Posts: 32 - 08/11/2009 19:59:29    478888

under 14?

mondred (Wexford) - Posts: 872 - 08/11/2009 22:44:57    479020

yeah under 14 footballers great manager in there whats his name ???? fintans

bogstandard (Wexford) - Posts: 799 - 09/11/2009 10:48:31    479189

09/11/2009 10:48:31
bogstandard
County: Wexford
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479189 yeah under 14 footballers great manager in there whats his name ???? fintans



Yeah but.......it's under 14

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 09/11/2009 10:58:03    479202

yeah under 14 we ave 3 managers willie white, paddy ryan or jim ryan

stfintans (Wexford) - Posts: 32 - 09/11/2009 19:03:12    479630

09/11/2009 19:03:12
stfintans
County: Wexford
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479630 yeah under 14 we ave 3 managers willie white, paddy ryan or jim ryan



Yeah but.......it's under 14,to early to speak yet,look at the ammount of lads from the Peter's who played football or hrling at your age and see how many of them were playin at senior level

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 09/11/2009 20:42:34    479746

In fairness, looking at the amount of young lads who have gone into St Peters this year from Glynn Barntown and St Martins alone, they are absolutely fantastic players, from clubs that are really getting the structures at underage correct... That is only two clubs and there are many more talented players from the dozens of clubs in the area... All depends on the structure within the school and if these young lads are coached to be skillful, thinking team players or if they are coached to win...

I'd rather see them have a competitive under 14 team this year, with those lads being nurtured and developed into a winning team in 4 or 5 years time.... Which would serve the game better, world beaters at U14 2010 and also rans at Senior2014, or also rans at U14 2010 and champions at Senior in 2014/2015?

cailin (Wexford) - Posts: 143 - 10/11/2009 01:12:28    479959

Would that be the team that played Good Council last week.You might like to tell us all the score !.

Bannisteoir (Wexford) - Posts: 127 - 10/11/2009 07:54:37    479978

How about you tell us bannisteoir as you seem to know?

ricky (None) - Posts: 86 - 10/11/2009 12:54:52    480216

Heard the team who played Carlow cbs was stacked with players from st Martins U12's and Glynn when older players from smaller clubs were left on the side line,
Certain clubs and names will get you far in Peters same as its always being there.

Last years Peters team won the Leinster title was a good team but Council will catch them by the time they are Junior due to better coaching and selection policies.

One very good player from the Vols who is U14 left in subs.

James Cash & Donal Shanley are outstanding talents make no mistake but the team is going no place when it meets decent opposition unless its picked on talent alone.

Looking at U14 fball results on Wex Website makes you wounder what the Glynn lads were at when they played Crossabeg in the County semi final a club not noted for fball.

Mucksavage (Wexford) - Posts: 69 - 10/11/2009 14:01:18    480271

I know one of the main problems in St Peters is that because guys from the likes of Glynn, Shels, Martins, St Annes and the Wexford town clubs do so well underage that the players often aren't released till the last minute as they're generally competing in county finals. Minor championship wasn't finished till 2 and a half weeks ago when Glynn beat Shelmaliers and players wouldn't turn out for the college till they were finished.
The better structure in Good Counsel has been one of the reasons they have done well in the senior competitions in recent years despite the fact the players from the stronger underage clubs around Wexford generally attend St Peters.

I hear Rory Jacob and Brian Malone are teaching in St Peters this year, dont know if they're involved with any teams however.

ricky (None) - Posts: 86 - 10/11/2009 15:01:05    480336

Mucksavage is dead right about your name & your club within the Peter's,even Liam Dunne addressed that in his book

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 10/11/2009 16:43:33    480424

I presume you went to St Peters Duffy89 considering your so familiar with selection policy within the school?

ricky (None) - Posts: 86 - 10/11/2009 18:32:05    480520

Competing in County Finals effecting the St Peters is a red herring.

Same factors in play for Good council and infact they are worse as they have KK players

All Minor and U21 games are over in Wexford at the moment, Majority finsihed before first week in Oct ( See wex WEB SITE for dates.

Minor finals only finished this week in Kilkenny and they are only half way through the U21 Championship.

Even in a bad year for fixtures which 2008 was for minor in Wexford they were finished in early Dec.The Leinster Colleges senior championships are payed after christmas.

The rest of underage championships finals are played in Sept /Oct at the latest and this has been the case for last two Years.
In Fact in 2008 U16 fball was finished in July & U16 hURL in Aug for most divisions.

Jacob and Malone are with Senior Hurlers in Peters.

Its only the big clubs who withdraw their players from the school teams.

My own club has never stopped a player training with the school and in fact excused them from club training if they did.

Mucksavage (Wexford) - Posts: 69 - 10/11/2009 18:56:06    480531

No I didn't but I am fairly observant to watching what's going on up there,if you're not apart of the Shel's,the Martin's or Glynn your in trouble,prove me wrong if you wan't

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 10/11/2009 19:00:38    480535

I also know if your a student and you speak out about the Peter's getting bet you'll be in trouble with the power's that be over the place up there,because it happened to a family member of mine !!!

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 10/11/2009 19:05:05    480540

Mucksavage and Duffy, what you say is completely untrue. Don't know if you are a past (or present) pupil mucksavage, you sound bitter. It's almost as if you didn't make it onto one of the Peters teams due to not being good enough and instead of looking at yourself, you still blame the management. Duffy, you should definitely stay out of this debate as you clearly do not know what you are talking about and have only second hand information to go on - you are not a past pupil of Peters.

The teams in Peters are picked on merit, based on talent and effort in training etc., it has nothing to do with what club a student is from. Duffy's comment (sic) "if you're not apart of the Shel's,the Martin's or Glynn your in trouble" is absolute rubbish. I know plenty of players from town clubs and from other clubs such as Annes, Taghmon, etc. who have been selected for Peters teams both past and present.

Just look at the county panels and see the amount of Peters past pupils on them. Without the coaching young players receive in our secondary schools (Enniscorthy CBS, Gorey, Bunclody, etc. too, not just Peters and Counsel - although they are the only dual Colleges 'A' schools) Wexford GAA would be nowhere near where it is today.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 10/11/2009 20:46:35    480658

Ok then nocky,how many Harrier's player's have been playing for the Peter's in the last few year's,being that the Peter's is actually in the town.by the way,you do play for the Shel's if i'm not mistaken don't you ?

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 10/11/2009 23:29:06    480724

Whos de vols player u talk about mucksavage?

ricky (None) - Posts: 86 - 11/11/2009 00:50:46    480798

Even in a bad year for fixtures which 2008 was for minor in Wexford they were finished in early Dec.The Leinster Colleges senior championships are payed after christmas.

Leinster Senior Colleges mattches are played on Saturdays after Christmas, however schools do play matches before Christmas, and on school days!

On the debate, it is a tough time for many a young fella going into the Peters who love their GAA... There are so many clubs in the area, both big and small clubs with many, many players between them. When there isn't a structured competition for 1st years (blitz days seem to be the norm, do they serve these lads correctly?), many lads lose confidence and interest as they can easily make their club teams but the competition in there for places on a team is huge and many 'late developers' lose out as they might not be as physically strong or as confident as some of their peers in 1st year.

If the schools competition was catered for with 4 seperate competitions... 1st year, 2nd year, Junior (U16) and Senior, it would give more lads in 1st year a chance to get games. It would also allow the 2nd year lads the opportunity to hold their places on the team, unlike the U14 set up across schools at present where some 1st years dont get on, and some 2nd years are 'dropped' for 1st years. A simple rule that 1st years cannot play up would maintain the status here. If Junior and Senior can work around each other in the 1st half of the school year, surely 1st year and 2nd year can do the same in the latter...

Just my thoughts!

cailin (Wexford) - Posts: 143 - 11/11/2009 08:11:12    480831