the whole weekend was requested to be off, not just the sat. Once again they only changed the game to the evening as it was all the county board would give to walterstown. i dont think its fair to fix a game for a weekend which had been requested to be free, considering all the weekends that players thought there would be matches throughout the summer being free. how could you expect players to perform to the best of there ability having only landed in the country 2 hours before throw in. FACT. rathkenny knew they would be playing an understrength walterstown on that weekend, and maybe the rathkenny players should have had a meeting and played best 15 against best 15 on a further date.

blackbeauty (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 04/11/2009 12:09:38    474763

And the replay will be the best 15 against the best 15.

blackbeauty (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 04/11/2009 12:10:39    474766

R_Kenny County: Meath Posts: 29 474667 Own Goal - you are stirring it and as usual have it all wrong FACT - Syddan did NOT ask for weekend off. FACT - Walterstown asked for Saturday off / not Sunday FACT - B.Allen has nothing to do with fixtures. We all know who is in charge of fixtures. FACT - No Rathkenny players knew when game was - before it was fixed. How could they? 04/11/2009 10:16:39 14forward County: Meath Posts: 15 474668 owngoal u shouldnt even talk about the syddan game cos you know nothing about it. I was in a talking to one of the syddan lads in a pub a few weeks ago, he said 5 players turned up, rest went to play soccer for newton and others didnt bother. They didnt request game to be changed at all but didnt think so few would turn up. Your stories get better. Sure W/town should set all the fixures next year so everything can suit players being available FACT - Syddan did NOT ask for weekend off. Your right syddan asked for the game to be pushed back until mid week rathkenny refused knowing syddan would give them a walkover meaning they would get the points to stay in div2 - FACT 14forward pub talk is all your goin get your facts right there was a wedding on that weekend

ctm (Louth) - Posts: 46 - 04/11/2009 12:35:35    474792

ctm - i am sure there was a wedding on - they happen all over the country every wkd. Pub talk maybe but its correct pub talk. By the way - have you anything to say worth reading on the issue.

So when are walterstown going to change the appeal to all the above rather than the consent forms not being signed as its all about a wedding from what i can see - still nothing to do with loosing with a bit of grace and accepting like men - should be called the 'wedding planner appeal' maybe

14forward (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 04/11/2009 17:04:56    475130

Great debate lads but is there a refixture?

qprmeath (None) - Posts: 434 - 04/11/2009 17:34:33    475174

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475130 ctm - i am sure there was a wedding on - they happen all over the country every wkd. Pub talk maybe but its correct pub talk. By the way - have you anything to say worth reading on the issue.


well for a start 9 players showed up so ther ur wong straight away but thats neither here nor der they couldnt field a team. my point is its a bit of an insult to a club you coming on here stating some guy told ya in a pub lads couldnt be bothered showing up to play.......

ctm (Louth) - Posts: 46 - 04/11/2009 18:35:44    475259

No team i reckon will go down at all this year .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 04/11/2009 23:45:46    475625

R_Kenny: No one mentioned Barney Allen......and why would they request only the Saturday off when there players only came home on the Sunday?
Anyway after all the good responses from everyone it is now clear to me that Rathkenny showed bad sportsmanship by not moving the game to the following week.....Case closed whens the replay....

Owngoal (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 05/11/2009 08:42:26    475721

No mention of a fixture yet QPR.

theblindassasin (Meath) - Posts: 915 - 05/11/2009 08:43:51    475722

Take it as Gospel

No one will be relegated 17 senior teams and 15 Intermediate teams for 2010

No relegation either in 2010 so we will have 18 Senior teams in 2011 three groups of 6 and 3 groups of 5 in Intermediate [15]

Havoc (Meath) - Posts: 296 - 05/11/2009 10:30:32    475797

Havoc

why the sudden big change??
is this a get out clause??
did the county board not relegate 2 teams in 01 to ensure 16 quality teams in 4 groups of 4
surley enlarging the senior grade would bring standards down

ctm (Louth) - Posts: 46 - 05/11/2009 11:27:14    475860

If indeed there are 17 senior teams next year - there will need to be a lot of thought put into how it is structured. 3 groups or 4 groups.
My personal opinion is for four groups.

For 2010 - 17 senior teams - four groups - one group of 5 and three groups of 4 - top two in each going through to quarter-finals or just top team in each group going through to semi-finals.
If as you say no relegation then don't need to worry about relegation placings

For 2011 - 18 senior teams - four groups - two groups of 5 and two groups of 4 - top two in each going through to quarter-finals or just top team in each group going through to semi-finals.
Four groups would leave bottom team in each group going through to relegation semi-final playoffs.

All clubs having given written consent to play extra time (if necessary) before championship starts.

R_Kenny (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 05/11/2009 11:27:34    475861

Last thing Meath needs is additional senior teams. Standards are bad enough in our current set up. Better off forcing the issue and let one of the teams go down. I know Rathkenny are not training at present and they are unfortunate that Walterstown found an unfair loophole but it appears they will just have to accept the decision.Relegation games do not have to played this year and can happen when everyone is back training and before the championship draw next year.

Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 05/11/2009 13:49:10    476031

Lads I dont agree with it

Think at this stage we have weeded out the poor teams at SFC and IFC and 16 is fine in each grade but you heard it here 1st

Put 2 and 2 together and you will get 4 [always] to be sure... to be sure..... watch for the stroke

Do you think that if it effected any other club that this would even be banded about.

Me Thinks not.....................................................

Havoc (Meath) - Posts: 296 - 05/11/2009 14:39:56    476081

Surely the Meath county board cant just make new relegation rules up at this stage?

qprmeath (None) - Posts: 434 - 05/11/2009 15:03:48    476106

I cant see how they could relegate anyone this year. Whether you agree with it or not, Walterstown have won the right to another bite at the cherry and that cant be changed. And I dont see how you can ask Rathkenny to replay the game since they won it fair and square the first day. I just hope that they dont try to force the issue and end up throwing Rathkenny out for refusing to play. However I cant really see them doing that so I reckon no relegation is the only way to go. I dont see why they cant relegate two teams next year though to bring the numbers back down to 16. My preference for next year would be 3 groups of 4 and 1 group of 5. Four bottoms teams play a relegation play off- open draw as to who plays who - and the two losing teams get relegated. The sad thing is I would bet that Walterstown will be involved in it again next year. Then when you are back to 16 teams, play 4 groups of four. Every year. And dont change it. This idea of 16 teams divided into 3 groups is ridiculous. Why they have to keep tampering with things is beyond me.

anfearbeag (Meath) - Posts: 1134 - 05/11/2009 18:36:19    476413

What is going on? There are already too many rubbish teams in senior getting destroyed. Now they want 2 more intermediate teams! Kwood went straight back to the final this year, shows how poor the standard is.

Also R_kenny, your suggestions made me laugh, skipping quarter finals? are you mad? if there is 17 next year it'll be 2 groups of 6 and 1 of 5. top 3 in 2 groups of six go into quarters as well as top 2 in the group of 5. No relagation will make a farce of the 2010 championship.

And as for 2011 as someone already mentioned, 3 groups of 6 would make the most sense.

I hope to god someone gets relagated this year though.

Fabio Capello (Meath) - Posts: 174 - 06/11/2009 17:23:32    477448

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............And as for 2011 as someone already mentioned, 3 groups of 6 would make the most sense.
I hope to god someone gets relagated this year though.

Fabio...Agree someone should be relegated, however if it doesn't happen, how would you sort out relegation issue with three groups of six?

R_Kenny (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 09/11/2009 10:21:25    479159

i posted a thread here about a month ago, i heard then there will be no relegation this year, but that the 2 worst teams will go down next year, and the following year 2011 the championship will have 16 teams with 4 groups of 4, top 2 in each group go into quarter finals, bottom 4 into relegation semi's, maybe it wont happen but its a better set up then the present one

The.Rock (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 09/11/2009 11:10:55    479223

R_kenny The bottom 3 teams in the 3 groups should be compared and the 2 worst go into a relagation final. The 2 with the least amount of points and if 2 or 3 teams are on the same amount of points then i would use the conditions that the county board use to seperate teams (c) Where Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, or for Promotion or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:- (i) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For). (ii) Highest Total Score For. The teams in question wont have played eachother so this condition would be omitted. (iii) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition. (iv) Scoring Average (divide total Score Against into total Score For). Exception: If the accumulated scores of a team, so involved, are affected by a disqualification, retirement or walk over, the tie shall be decided by a play off. This would be the in my opinion the best way to decide relagation with 3 groups of 6, getting into 3 way playoffs where teams play eachother once would get messy considering they managed to muck up this years set up. Hopefully as i said before someone will be relegated this year though. Although both Rathkenny and walterstown have valid arguments i'd be of the impression that walterstown should play Duleek/Bellewstown in the final.

Fabio Capello (Meath) - Posts: 174 - 10/11/2009 10:46:44    480054