blackbeauty, its all about survival is no justification for the appeal. if walterstown can't survive by plaing football they need to take a long hard look at themselves.

jaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 720 - 02/11/2009 14:19:06    472977

Apparently there will be no relegation from the senior ranks, but there has been no confirmation communicated from the county board so it's still all very much up in the air.

theblindassasin (Meath) - Posts: 915 - 02/11/2009 14:40:46    473010

I think alot of you are missing the point that Walterstown started the game v rathkenny understrength. Its true that the rathkenny players did no wrong but it was also unfair on walterstown. When Walterstown heard the fixture they asked Rathkenny to call the game off until the follwing week but they refused and it was moved to 5.30 the SAME day.I don't think one person can argue that Rathkenny had an unfair advantage with this fixture. It seems funny that the game was fixed for when it was as it was well documented to the county board that walsterstown requested the weekend off. Only having your strongest team on the field for the last 15mins is not exactly fair. Mabye there should be an inquiry into weather Rathkenny were influencial in fixing the game on that date as it is well known that a rathkenny player was able to tell when the game was to be played before the fixture was made. Mabye some people should get all the facts before the comment.

Owngoal (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 02/11/2009 15:04:09    473047

Walterstown knew like everyone else when the game was fixed for. If they're players aren't dedicated enough to work around the game then that is their hard luck.

theblindassasin (Meath) - Posts: 915 - 02/11/2009 15:34:27    473080

owngoal - answer one question - was the player in question avaialable on the day to play? I believe he was. why did he not start? thats the selectors call. The game I an told was fixed for sunday morning. W'town changed it to that evening, why not get it for followng week, nobody would have minded. Sure why not refuse to play if it didnt suit. They changed it to latter that evening. Full stop end of story. If you seen the player involved against the ultans then thats about all the time fitness would allow. Ask anyone at the game in navan. people train from january, one wkd and cant play on Sunday. Dont talk through your *** please, you play much ball if thats your best excuse to appeal a game. So are you saying this is the basis of the appeal, not the signing forms issue! Final point. This has nothing to do with the result at all. Game played, game won, end of story. Appeals changing results means end of GAA in meath for me. A full disgrace meaning all involved at county board should stand down but no team involved in this shud suffer, As said in cronicle by Demspey, county board mistakes, no one else

14forward (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 02/11/2009 15:53:54    473088

So what happens now? Can Rathkenny appeal the decision by Croke Park or will the county board have to set a fixture? It's well known by now that Rathkenny have stopped training after the Walterstown game and have no intention of showing up for a replay so no doubt there will be more confusion and drama down the line.

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2015 - 02/11/2009 16:16:54    473118

It was a disgrace the way walterstown and rathkenny had to play extra time at all in darkness getting damn all rest between full time and extra time compared to all the other championship games that went to extra time were they got ten minutes break and another five at the interval also walterstowns black jersey made it nearly impossible for the players to see each other in the fading light.

WTB (Meath) - Posts: 83 - 02/11/2009 16:44:29    473160

Was told today by a county board source that, "the word under the stand", so to speak, is that there is no team going down this year. Dunno if or when this is being confirmed, just passing on what I was told today.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 03/11/2009 00:17:05    473614

The fact that we are looking at Div 4 league games and B league games this wkd shows whats wrong here. We must play the least amount of football in the summer bar any other county. would Slane be even training in November!!!!! - all that will happen is fines for not fielding a team Go to your AGM and say this, thats where you need to be heard - a younger team is needed in there at county board level

14forward (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 03/11/2009 09:42:25    473697

14 Forward: Sounds like you are from North Meath..

Owngoal (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 03/11/2009 10:30:03    473730

Owngoal - nothing to do with where I am from - if i have wrote down something you think is not correct point it out but i am just looking in at this farce from the oustide and the countys reputation going down the pan. All you pointed out above was about one player and your forgeting times change request came from his club and they set the time to change the game but you are constantly bringing this up - the appeal is about a form not signed, not about a some player put out by the game so at least stick to the facts if you have a point on the whole issue. I believe that teams beaten on the day should take their beating like men in an amateur sport like we have. Appeals of this sort have no place and Ballinlough proved this and Navan also buy not pursuing something after they were beaten. Its makes the club involved look ridiculous for one with such a past

14forward (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 03/11/2009 10:59:16    473763

i posted a thread here about a month ago, i heard then there will be no relegation this year, but that 2 teams will go down next year, and the following year the championship will have an equal number of teams in the groups instead of the 1 extra now,

The.Rock (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 03/11/2009 11:06:10    473771

14 Forward: You seem to be getting very annoyed for someone with an outside view on the whole thing. Can you give me a quick answer on the following
1. How the game was fixed for that wkend when its was requested off by one of the teams 8 weeks in advance?
2. Was there a similar situation regarding Rathkenny and Sydan in relation to one team looking for the wkend off but again it was overlooked.
Seems like a nice bit of luck to get.
Walstertown where entilted to object as where Wolfe Tones. Weather you agree or not dosn't matter.
My point is that if Walstertown had the same weeks preperation. If 3 vital players had of being able to start...2 of who came on.... well then I think they would of won the game. So all things being EQUAL the game should be replayed.
I think we both know why the game was fixed for that Sunday

Owngoal (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 03/11/2009 17:04:43    474197

owngoal, i have no interest in walterstown or rathkenny but i do know many of their players, from what i know walterstown didnt ask 8 weeks in advance for the game to be off, they asked for a later throw in which they got and charlie and whoever else was there to start but didnt and charlie was brought on at halftime, and if u were at the match you would have seen rathkenny deserved to win as they were the better team and walterstown confirmed to me that night all i heard about them and there training sessions during the summer, they looked liked they couldnt be bothered, 2nd point from what i heard and i could be wrong syddan didnt ask for that match off either, rathkenny turned up to play but syddan didnt.

The.Rock (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 03/11/2009 18:27:30    474299

The.Rock
First of all your your information is incorrect Walterstown did have a request for that weekend to be left free 3 months previous and for good reason. In the end Walterstown had no choice but ask for a change in time as there previous request was denied. The only reason the players in question came home that day was for the match, and I really cant see any reason why the game couldn't have been changed to the following weekend, but we all know the underlying reasons for this. This same figure had no problem in satisfying duleeks request for a free weekend, the same weekend they were scheduled to play Walterstown. All this mess could have been avoided so easily if the county board had been fair from the start with Walterstown request. I can understand why rathkenny are annoyed but at the same time Walterstown were unable to field there strongest team and any team should be given the opportunity to do this in a game of such importance.

blackbeauty (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 04/11/2009 00:22:26    474575

everyting i want to say is said be the rock above, just read it - you keep talking about the game being fixed for that sunday being wrong yet it was w/town who changed it to that evening. No one else. Why not refuse to play it?. Are you saying players have to work around times of games. Welcome to playing football. No wkd suits everyone but if your blaming loosing down to 2 or 3 players, who were available to start but didnt then your in a sad state. One of these lads that came on played against the ultans two, lets just say fitness wasnt top of the agenda. Final thing. Any club player training hard all year, could go away for a few days, get married or whatever and the play a game of football a few days latter. Your training since January. If you get married in sept thats going to infere with football so on your own head be it. maybe have a word with your selectors why they didnt start? And like the rock I know lads from both sides and i am actually backing the side that wins the game, cos that what you train to do, win games.

14forward (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 04/11/2009 08:27:27    474614

Rock..this is the last time I will comment on this Fact Walterstown did request that weekend off well in advance Fact Certain Rathkenny Players knew when the game was fixed for before the fixture was made. Fact Sydan did ask for the weekend off Make of that what you will...

Owngoal (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 04/11/2009 09:25:58    474639

Own Goal - you are stirring it and as usual have it all wrong
FACT - Syddan did NOT ask for weekend off.
FACT - Walterstown asked for Saturday off / not Sunday
FACT - B.Allen has nothing to do with fixtures. We all know who is in charge of fixtures.
FACT - No Rathkenny players knew when game was - before it was fixed. How could they?

R_Kenny (Meath) - Posts: 40 - 04/11/2009 10:15:28    474667

owngoal u shouldnt even talk about the syddan game cos you know nothing about it. I was in a talking to one of the syddan lads in a pub a few weeks ago, he said 5 players turned up, rest went to play soccer for newton and others didnt bother. They didnt request game to be changed at all but didnt think so few would turn up. Your stories get better. Sure W/town should set all the fixures next year so everything can suit players being available

14forward (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 04/11/2009 10:16:39    474668

like i said ive no interest in either teams and this IS my last comment on this subject as there'll be no relegation, blackbeauty and owngoal ye seem to have a grudge against rathkenny for some reason, my information on walterstown is not incorrect, now blackbeauty your point on why the game could'nt have been played the following weekend, i cant see how walterstown would've played that weekend either as charlie would've been still on honeymoon, when they didnt beat rathkenny, i feel they appealed cos the duleek/bellewstown was fixed for the thursday night and he wouldve been still away. 2nd, your point on they couldnt start their strongest team against rathkenny, unless i was visually impaired that night all players involved including charlie, were there ready to play from the start but didnt and charlie came on at half time, and he played very well, maybe had he started they may have won, but he didnt and that was not rathkennys or the county boards fault that was their own, i'll say it again to the above posters trying to justify this appeal, its a pity some of their ''established'' players didnt have a better attitude to training this year and they wouldnt need an appeal and all this nonsense would never have happened

The.Rock (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 04/11/2009 11:53:47    474746