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I had a grandfather shot and injured in Flanders and a granduncle killed there. Four years later the said grandfathers son fought with Tom Barry's Flying Column in West Cork



Tom Barry also fought at the Somme.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/11/2009 19:01:19    481454

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patrique-im not just talking about the present crop of ireland players,what about taken kids from the schoolboy leauge and putting them in to the youth academy like ever other british club? i am not talking about them buying an established full international.




How many have Celtic got?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 11/11/2009 21:28:11    481601

I can see this thread taking off on Thursday night. There just happens to be a documentary about the Love Ulster parade and Dublin riot on TV.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 11/11/2009 22:09:16    481662

Only in Ireland can you go from talking about Ranger's to talking about WW1,only in Ireland I swear by it

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 11/11/2009 23:07:59    481726

patrique, Currently Richie Towell, Stephen McDonnell and Graham Carey with Darren O Dea and Cillian Sheridan graduates from Youths still on Celtic Books though both currently out on loan. Recent players who came through youths Michael Doyle, Jim Goodwin, Jim O Brien, Diarmuid O Carroll and of course Colin Healy & Liam Miller.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 11/11/2009 23:08:38    481727

I can see this thread taking off on Thursday night. There just happens to be a documentary about the Love Ulster parade and Dublin riot on TV.

why were celtic fans involved in rioting and looting in Dublin city centre, surely not the 'best fans in the world'...

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4653 - 12/11/2009 09:22:03    481879

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v1ARlytLPo

Take a look at this Bad Monkey and it migh put things in perspective

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 12/11/2009 10:56:33    481950

watch tonight and you will see.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 12/11/2009 10:56:35    481951

patrique, Thank you for educating me on Tom Barry, I had been under the impression that he fought in Mesoptania. You could also have mentioned that he was a Kerryman and the son of an RIC man and reached the rank of sergeant in the British Army. You could have even told me that himself and his wife Leslie resided in a flat over Woofdord & Bournes in Patrick Street in Cork and that he went to the Marlborough for a pint. You might also have been able to identify a 16 year old student who had the honour of sharing a platform with him, when he spoke from the back of a lorry in Patrick Street Cork in the mid sixties, can't even remember the campaign there was so many around that time. Might have been a protest about a "courtesy" visit from a British Navy ship, possibly the H.M.S. Relentless to Cork. Anyhow thank you for the information and I look forward to my next lesson.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 12/11/2009 11:20:34    481973

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I can see this thread taking off on Thursday night. There just happens to be a documentary about the Love Ulster parade and Dublin riot on TV.

why were celtic fans involved in rioting and looting in Dublin city centre, surely not the 'best fans in the world'...
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Sorry bad.monkey, but hardline-Republican sympathisers (a few of whom were wearing Celtic jerseys) rioting at an inflammatory Unionist parade in Dublin is not the same as actual Rangers fans rioting in Pamplona, Villareal, Manchester, Budapest, etc. when they were supposed to be attending a football match. Can you not see the difference?

I look forward to seeing what punishment UEFA dishes out this time, surely it is time Rangers were forced to play a game or two behind closed doors?

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 12/11/2009 12:53:10    482049

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Sorry bad.monkey, but hardline-Republican sympathisers (a few of whom were wearing Celtic jerseys) rioting at an inflammatory Unionist parade in Dublin is not the same as actual Rangers fans rioting .

So they were disguised as celtic supporters, , maybe the same excuse can be applied to the rioters in rangers shirts. get off the fence

dhorse (Laois) - Posts: 11374 - 12/11/2009 14:30:38    482142

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So they were disguised as celtic supporters, , maybe the same excuse can be applied to the rioters in rangers shirts. get off the fence
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They weren't at a football match, where Rangers fans do their rioting. Please take the time to understand the difference, I know it must be difficult for you.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 12/11/2009 15:06:20    482188

I have to make a confession. I threw in this comment knowing it would set things off. I have no doubts that some of the chaps you will see on the tv tonight are similar in status as the misguided souls who used the memory of Aidan McAnespie to have a go at authority on Sunday. They are basically disenfranhcised young people on the margins of society or as they call them in Glasgow-neds, Cork-gurriers, rural Ireland-yahoos etc etc.

thistle_harps (UK) - Posts: 879 - 12/11/2009 15:11:38    482192

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patrique, Currently Richie Towell, Stephen McDonnell and Graham Carey with Darren O Dea and Cillian Sheridan graduates from Youths still on Celtic Books though both currently out on loan. Recent players who came through youths Michael Doyle, Jim Goodwin, Jim O Brien, Diarmuid O Carroll and of course Colin Healy & Liam Miller.




Thanks for proving my point. No one good enough, for Rangers.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 12/11/2009 17:37:17    482327

corkcelt County: Cork Posts: 1226 481727 patrique, Currently Richie Towell, Stephen McDonnell and Graham Carey with Darren O Dea and Cillian Sheridan graduates from Youths still on Celtic Books though both currently out on loan. Recent players who came through youths Michael Doyle, Jim Goodwin, Jim O Brien, Diarmuid O Carroll and of course Colin Healy & Liam Miller. Thanks for proving my point. No one good enough, for Rangers. That is not the point at all, Any Club bringing in young kids take a chance, most of them don't make the grade, some will become journeyman players which may earn the Club a decent though not spectacular return if they are sold on to say a Championship team, and of course you are always hoping that you unearth a gem. Young Irish lads have as much potential as anyone else. The fact is that Celtic do sign them as proved by my response and Rangers don't. You do not appear interested in having a genuine debate but are more interested in making smart ass comments to prove your intellectual superiority. You are a clever enough hombre but in some respects that is your Achilles heel, you always assume that you know more then everyone else, a dangerous assumption my friend.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 12/11/2009 21:15:19    482515

Rangers got a bit of a triple hammering today.

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 12/11/2009 22:15:13    482561

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corkcelt
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, a dangerous assumption my friend.



Dangerous? From a Cork man?

As for making smart comments, are you the same Corkcelt who turned an innocuous comment about Tom Barry into a history lesson rant?

You don't live in a glass house by any chance?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 13/11/2009 01:09:05    482666

Yes patrique, I fully agree that my response to the Tom Barry interjection was definitely of the smart ass variety. Perhaps your style was niggling at me and I took your interjection about Tom Barry having fought at the Somme in the wrong way and responded as I did. In the immortal words of the late Brian Lenihan, "On mature reflection" I was out of order to respond in the manner I did.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 13/11/2009 10:36:24    482776

Sorry bad.monkey, but hardline-Republican sympathisers (a few of whom were wearing Celtic jerseys) rioting at an inflammatory Unionist parade in Dublin is not the same as actual Rangers fans rioting in Pamplona, Villareal, Manchester, Budapest, etc. when they were supposed to be attending a football match. Can you not see the difference?

emm so when celtic fans riot they are not really celtic fans?... brilliant

they rioted and looted in dublin city centre, they are a disgrace

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4653 - 13/11/2009 11:12:45    482797

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emm so when celtic fans riot they are not really celtic fans?... brilliant

they rioted and looted in dublin city centre, they are a disgrace
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You continue to misunderstand the situation monkey. Dissident Republican sympathisers rioting at an inflammatory Unionist parade in Dublin is not the same as actual Rangers fans rioting in cities and stadia all over Europe when they are supposed to be following their football team. As the poster who raised this issue put it, they are just "disenfranchised young people on the margins of society". The fact that a few of them were wearing Celtic jerseys is incidental, and I fully agree with you - they are a disgrace.

nocky (Wexford) - Posts: 2059 - 13/11/2009 12:51:22    482888