Just curious to know what happened and what people think the outcome should be - particularly all those from Tyrone that had an opinion (and were quick to share it) about the Derry referee being harassed

DoireCK (Derry) - Posts: 162 - 20/10/2009 01:12:04    459774

Well DoireCF Its Just the sound of silence from your neighbours.

maroon2gold (Westmeath) - Posts: 551 - 20/10/2009 11:28:36    459999

An absolute disgrace should be banned for life!

Ciarrai Abu (Overseas) - Posts: 1050 - 20/10/2009 13:23:38    460189

You ever notice a few clubs have a reputation. Like "God the ref'll never get outa there in one piece" and the ilk. Well Ardboe are one of these clubs, and have felt the force of the county board a few times for incidents like these, they were renowned for years as being a club who used intimidation as a means for getting their way. To be fair, I have played against them a number of times in recent years, know a few of them and these incidents seemed to be gone, but alas the old saying you cant teach an old dog new tricks seems to spring to mind. It doesnt help that it was the second year running at the tyrone county final, with last yrs being live on tv. But this rubbish happens all over the country. And unfortunaltely the referee on Sunday had an excellent game and got the last minute penalty spot on. Referees deserve a bit of respect when they earn it.

gottabetrue (Tyrone) - Posts: 300 - 20/10/2009 13:59:34    460245

Where are all the Tyrone posters? All being questioned at the local police station?

Puddersthecat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1692 - 20/10/2009 14:00:54    460249

Who are you going to ban for life?

All members and supporters of Ardboe Rossas ?

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 20/10/2009 14:13:41    460270

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone" John 8.

Guys, hypocrisy is very evident on these pages. Very often people use disgraceful events like the one in Omagh to vilify and antagonise an entire county. This practice is both childish and counterproductive. I have found myself posting less and less on this site as the season has wound to a close. I had hoped that the return of bored children to school would improve matters but I suspect that the worst trolls are in fact adults who should know better. If our Derry fellow wanted to hear about the reaction to the incident he would have found it relatively easy to find at least two threads underway on the very subject, I am left to assume the real reason for the thread was the intention to antagonise. What has our society come to? Do we accept defeat with dignity and honour intact or do we resort to mindless thuggery and public score settling? Do we seek intelligent debate or do we set out to "wind up" fellow enthusiasts.

This cycle of hooliganism is destroying our games. Drunkeness and over competitiveness have no place in the community centred nature of the sport. A parent would think twice before exposing their children to the language and behaviour exibited at even the most irrelevant match.

Time to wise up everyone.

caughtredhanded (Tyrone) - Posts: 602 - 20/10/2009 14:44:14    460313

In ~17 years (I'm 27) of going to intercounty and club football and hurling games I have never once experienced actual crowd violence. Yes there has been the odd isolated incident between two clowns but no more than that, and I can only remember a handful of those sort of incidents that escalated to actual violence.

I'm not denying that it's not happening but I think the OP and a lot of the posters here are losing the run of themselves.

@ the OP: You can't compare League of Ireland games with club games. You could compare League of Ireland games with inter-county games due to the level of Garda and steward involvement. Also compare local club soccer games with local club championship games to get a fair picture. The same point goes to thelongfella who said we should do the same as in Britain. These hooligans that get banned in Britain are people going to Football League and Premier League clubs. Not the grass roots stuff.

I have no idea what the history of trouble is at grass roots level soccer in this country but if it is way lower than what happens at GAA games that probably just reflects the fact that local GAA gets more spectators than local soccer.

Having said all that, I think that where any incidents do happen, the GAA should take as much action as possible against clubs and individuals involved and where necessary, report it to Gardaí/police. There is no excuse for what does go on, I just don't think it is as widespread as some of you think.

Cilldara_2000 (Kildare) - Posts: 57 - 20/10/2009 16:58:14    460543

It is all about that square thing in the corner of the room, with about 8 of them now in every pub, there is no escape from them. Yes, a TV. We are quickly adopting what many refer to as the premiership "culture of rage" where the smallest incident is over dramatised and seen to be a matter of life and death. The fans hurl abuse at a player, who then gives the "V" sign and the fans are outraged demanding that the player is executed immediately. Even an extreme example of the player who ran the length of the field to celebrate in front of the "away" fans was over hyped. What harm was he doing, and why have "away" fans? Yes, we have them because it is a social problem, of idiots full of rage attending sports events, as an outlet for their rage. The GAA will be heading that way if this keeps on. If you do not believe me look at the threads NOW about Kennelly, Donal Ogs book, the St Gall's game last Sunday, the "penalty" in the hurling final, and countless others. My advice is to ban TVs from the country and calm down. No need for all this rage, that leads to the type of society where we get nightly stabbings. It is only a game.

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 20/10/2009 17:12:55    460572

gottabetrue,what club are you from?

orange and blue (Tyrone) - Posts: 1080 - 20/10/2009 18:39:30    460658

Goota be true come off it. Arboe are no worse than any other club in Tyrone. Orange and Blue I think he might be from Moortown, or maybe Ballinderry, its in tyrone afterall

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 20/10/2009 19:35:23    460721

I was at the match and I never seen the incident still in shock from the finale. I have heard plenty of reports though and it is disgraceful. The hooligans that participated need to be taught a very serious lesson, who do they think they are?
What posessed them to do that, the ref had a great game, my only conclusion is that they thought it was the Arboe goalie....

omaghjoe (Tyrone) - Posts: 1191 - 20/10/2009 19:40:45    460726

(*hush of silence from Tyronies)......

Orlaith (Derry) - Posts: 4282 - 20/10/2009 20:26:25    460774

The club should get a ban and it will learn them to controll there supporters and players and am sure they know who the fan is and he should be named and banned for life,

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/10/2009 21:41:56    460854

Who would want to be a ref

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 20/10/2009 21:44:56    460859

maybe he deserved a slap or 2.

seriously though, I don't know what happened but there is no place for a ref getting hit, much as I feel like clipping an odd one, its wrong.

Its not like he has a load of team mates to come back him up!

Why is everyone looking to know what Tyrone people think, for alot of us our club was not involved in any way on the day so we where not there and did not see it.

wise_guy (Tyrone) - Posts: 1584 - 20/10/2009 22:03:48    460890

OmaghJoe....

the Ardboe goalie????

You came very close there !!!!!!!

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 20/10/2009 22:23:27    460924

Orlaith, hardly silence from Tyrone posters. Out of 16 replies 9 were from Tyrone people and the rest were hardly in depth debates about the thread, bar Patrique of course. What happened was reprehensible (sorry.. not right) but its symptomatic of society as a whole as Patrique says. I do not think that Oak Leaf gaels are in any position to take the moral high ground on this matter either

omaghredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 3656 - 20/10/2009 23:54:08    461074

omaghredhand
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Orlaith, hardly silence from Tyrone posters



Orlaith is very young, Omagh, but her posts are very good.

It is symptomatic of society, all this rage and people getting stabbed and kicked to death in EVERY county.

You have to ask why?

patrique (Antrim) - Posts: 13709 - 21/10/2009 00:04:40    461085

Maybe the Rossas should be made to pay Clitheroe compensation......

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 21/10/2009 10:25:42    461247