"this page is being used by cubs from eskra to boast about some insignificant grade 3 youth win. shouldnt yous lads be revisin for the 11 plus or something? lets keep this page about Augher & Clogher amalgamation."

The 11plus is gone lad.
Hardly insignificant youth wins, 3 in the one year from a club who have always been looked upon as small by the likes of Augher & Clogher!
if either Augher or Clogher were achievin this there would be no talk about amalgamations.

Right, you want to keep his about the proposed amalgamation:
How many schools are in the Clogher parish? 2 in Augher, 1 in Clogher & they take in players from Fivemiletown.
Compare this with eskra with 1 school, but they work hard at underage level to get the players out and to keep them out.
Yous boys should work a bit harder, i'll give you an example, Clogher U16s had at least 4 subs aginst Eskra, with 1 other player out injured , making a panel of at least 18, then didnt field for most of the remaining games, citing lack of numbers. The Augher u16 panel at u14s had a panel of at least 18 & have had a lad transfer in from Errigal in the meantime!
More like lack of EFFORT! why not work with what you have to improve it rather than take a shortcut by joining with another team?

Are you ying to say they need to join at say u14 level & above, because of lack of numbers, then that doest wash!
Possibly below this age group but Can anyone give figures as to the numbers both these teams have out at say u 10& 8 level, that would back up an arguement for the need to join?

wombat (Tyrone) - Posts: 26 - 24/10/2009 12:23:29    464961

wombat

how can you possibly say that there is a lack of effort going in. Augher have brought up some very good footballers in recent years and have been in grade 1 in minors last year. In 2008 Augher won the grade2 Championship at minor level. Its not a lack of effort, There is just not enough numbers !!

Augher (Tyrone) - Posts: 125 - 24/10/2009 12:53:43    464990

Tyrone_Lad
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stoifan92
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463985 mr. wombat, i quote you ''If Augher and Clogher had been joined at u16 this year, they still wouldnt have beat Eskra!''
augher u16s playd in grade 2 this year whilst eskra playd grade 3 and you say augher & clogher would not have beaten eskra u16s
-evidence of the how pathetic your club is for glory. play in a compeditive league lad ;)

As far as I remember Augher u16s finished bottom of grade 2 with one point to show which they got when a match was called off because a lad was injured.
Now to me it does not seem Augher u16s were very 'competitive' in that league.....
Augher were in the same situation as Eskra in not having enough players as well, but it seems your club was not smart enough to move down to a grade that plays 13-a-side!


Also have to mention that even if augher did go down a grade they still would not have been very competitive (no not compeditive stoifan93) as they are a team with 1 outstanding player in sean hackett and another good player in Ciaran Mc Caughey. We did play Augher and beat them easily without really playing well which was shown in the match with two eskra players falling out. I can say that we have faced better tams in grade 3 such as rock. So stoifan get back in yer box lad:)

nGorm (Tyrone) - Posts: 7 - 24/10/2009 14:04:14    465039

Augher,

Maybe lack of effort is too harsh, but at which age group are you struggling with lack of numbers. As you point out your minors are grade 1, so have the numbers & as i pointed out your u16s previously had the numbers. Where in your view does the problem begin, and how bad is it? ie what numbers are you dealing with at that age level.

And with regards to Clogher, did their U 14s not reach a Co Final this year, and also think they have decent u13 & 12 teams with sufficient numbers.

wombat (Tyrone) - Posts: 26 - 24/10/2009 14:16:16    465050

i think thers only one way to settle this if clogher and augher join...
st macartans vs eskra ?? then huever wins gets to brag

Tyrone12345 (Tyrone) - Posts: 17 - 24/10/2009 14:51:45    465078

mon errigal

fuppin (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 24/10/2009 14:52:09    465079

Tyrone12345
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465078 i think thers only one way to settle this if clogher and augher join...
st macartans vs eskra ?? then huever wins gets to brag

I think a margin of nearly 20 points the time Eskra played Augher and nearly 50 points the time they played Clogher has already settled that matter.....
I also believe that Augher do have good teams at the likes of minors, every club has an age group that may not perform to the standard of the others and their u16s seemed to be that team this year, people should not immediately think they need to join another club.
As for Clogher their u16s and minors both did not finish their season, their u14s however reached the Grade 3 final but according to 'BetweenThSticks' - "this page is being used by cubs from eskra to boast about some insignificant grade 3 youth win", so it must not really matter if you do well in the grade your put in.....

Tyrone_Lad (Tyrone) - Posts: 68 - 24/10/2009 18:35:27    465229

ok lets not go over board on this here, there hasnt been a st macartans youth team created just yet and it may never happen, so lets take one step at a time

eochair (Tyrone) - Posts: 213 - 24/10/2009 22:07:52    465412

Ok, away from eskras beef, first and foremost, if there ever was to be an amalganation of Augher & Clogher at youth level, the name St. Macartans is not suitable,primarily due to the fact that the ladies use it, secondly because it is associated with Augher through their name and pitch, there would have to be a totally new name for the amalganation, say like Naomh Padraig or the like,just as an example. Secondly will it ever happen?? I personally think it should happen, ok Augher have a grade 1 minor team and a grade 2 u-16 team, Clogher on the other hand have been playing grade 3 youth footbal for as long as I can remember, I think it is fair to say that Augher at the minute have the stronger youth teams in the parish, but with a few of the Clogher lads added to these teams, they could bridge that gap. As for the two senior sides, Augher will hold their own in div 2 football for the next decade or so,if they do happen to reach div 1, they will find it extremely tough to survive, Clogher on the other hand will be sledging away in div 3 for that length of time..possibly longer, with all due respect to div 3 and div 2 football why not join both senior teams and then I would have no doubt a div 1 team would be in the making, and a grade 1 youth setup, but of course peoples pride, ignorance, or whatever you want to call it will inevitably get in the way of this change. Other parishes have got there act together, swallowed their pride and togged out together and got the success that comes with it, I think this is a subject that should be investigated further for all gaels within the Augher/Clogher area.

kew.tour (Tyrone) - Posts: 9 - 25/10/2009 08:23:51    465579

The only good thing that has ever came out of eskra is Ohagans pub!!

coleywoley (Tyrone) - Posts: 26 - 30/10/2009 00:59:45    470463

someone earlier said that a manager would find it impossible to make decissions without being labeled bias to his home club but i have strong reasons to believe that their has been discussions recently between the clubs which have agreed that there is 2 men from each of the two clubs who have been approved by both clubs to manage at u16s and minor level should the clubs join which i believe from sources to be "close to sorted" and to enivitably be passed at the anual AGM's of both respective clubs in the next fortnight which i think will be very encouraging for all the pro St Macartan/Naomh Paidraig youth members.

clogher14 (Tyrone) - Posts: 34 - 05/11/2009 18:23:38    476397

dis needs 2 b put on the agendas 4 discussion at both AGMs. If u r 4 it or agin it go and say u r bit.

SeanTheYankee (Tyrone) - Posts: 74 - 05/11/2009 22:06:57    476609

IF th clubs were to amalgamate what division would they be?
and would they be a force to be reckoned with?

BetweenThSticks (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 06/11/2009 10:58:12    476930

The only thing holding back augher from being in grade one this year is depth and strength of a panel. With this depth being provided by the joining players we would surely have to contest in grade one minor football anyways. Wouldn't be sure about the U16s

TheStudy_ICT (Tyrone) - Posts: 66 - 06/11/2009 13:59:39    477136