Ok Boys and Girls, Heres the story! Camouge Rovers is a great club with a very good history.The type of club the gaa is founded on. It's tiny. They have fought and won above there weight division for decades. Unfortunately the history in recent times they have lost alot of their players for many reasons. usually the reasons for most clubs in ireland in this position has been the young men leaving for college/work in large population centres and become lost to the GAA in most cases. Its a fact of rural life in ireland unfortunatley. In the rovers case, this would apply to some of their players aswell but also a few of these smae players have continued to return to play for their club week in week out over the years and those men should be congratualted. It is junior b football! this is what the GAA is about. The boys dont return for the adulation ! they return for their friends in the the club and the love of their club. Rovers has lost alot of great footballers to bruff also because of its a larger population, also have reatained a few of the great players too that would not wish to play for bruff because they understand how bruff treats football. Bruff club and limerick in general has never respected the beautiful game that is football. Hurling is everything to them. This is aside from the point that they have enough quality to challenge in senior grade. But the unfortunate thing is. no training occurs for the football to any decent standard. training/players get pulled instantly if hurling is even slightly affected. this has been going on for decades in the club and condoned by 90% of old commitee members that would rather see their right nut chopped off than football succeed in bruff or limerick. example that a few years ago the football underage minor and u21 teams had probably the best team in the county with the likes of Mulvihill, ed hogan, niall hourigan, ronan, john cooke, the maddens, henry foster and many more talented players, but were intentionly lumbered with managers. two men whom I have good time for as men but have now knowledge of football . the team was ran by the players in those years. Their input consisted of giving fags at half time to some of the players. This is in a parish that has men like Gerry Reardon(kerry football legend who worked tirelessly for the underage club for years _legend), Dan sullivan, Donie Mulvihill. All men of vast knowledge of the game at the higest standards and men who have had huge respect of every player they trained. This is a microcosim of what goes on at county board level too. In my view limerick have had a far better chance of a munster title in football than hurling over the last 10 years and are a better team than the hurlers but have consistently been treated like second class citizens. The obvious option has been staring everyone in the face for years but the Bruff commitee and 1 or 2 rovers committee boys will die before seeing it happen. Rovers and Bruff Join like alot of clubs around the country. Bruff senior hurling team and junior football team Rovers senior football team and junior hurling Everyone ends with what they want and most importantly the players who love football in the parish from both clubs get to play at the best standard for a club that wants them and supports them in what they want to achieve and doesnt work in the dark to hinder their progress. Since this has not been achieved , it is now up to the players to take control of the futures of the clubs. The men who love football transfer to the rovers. hurlers transfer too. Force everyones hand on the commitee. This is what most players want. I know this through 12 years research and thought about it. Anyway rant over! Its been a while building up i suppose!

Cassius (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 20/10/2009 23:36:57    461054

Ps, there are some very good young players in the rovers. Paudie O Connor in particular could have a future at intercounty level. Has all attributes needed. fast smart brain. great hands. Needs to work on acceleration. Great distribution too. Midfield or full forward calling for Limerick when he fills out and if he has the time to commit to it. Brian O Con has some great attributes too. Awesome pace. Needs tighter control of solo and would be extemley destructive to any opposition teams defence

Cassius (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 21/10/2009 01:03:59    461113

re cassius , "the beautiful game that is football" now that is hilarious!

eastgael (Limerick) - Posts: 629 - 21/10/2009 10:32:44    461257

excuse me but there are men in bruff who have dedicated there life to promote football in bruff, we train twice a week and have been very successful over the last five years. its true hurling is number one in the club but football is very much a huge part of the club too so please dont come onto these sites and start knocking our codes as we as a club have huge affection for them, and as for saying bruff wont join with the rovers? wat rubbish. supposed spokesmen for meanus football were approached by bruff to join the football teams but meanus never got bak to them after all there talk about joining. me i still want the clubs to join and am currently workin at trying to achieve that but please get your facts right before coming onto these sites and spouting rubbish

bruffman (Limerick) - Posts: 8 - 21/10/2009 12:34:38    461442

I would like to apologise for my post earlier. In particular to Pat and Paddy. When I re-read what I had wrote late the night before, I was disgusted to realise what I wrote. It was unfair and untrue of me to say that.

I have contacted the adminsitrator to remove the post.

Cassius (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 21/10/2009 22:05:35    462237

re eastgael. Football is a beautiful game, and so is hurling, if that's what your really sore about. Bruffman- I know there are people in both Bruff and Camouge that have worked tirelessy for football in the parish. I remember being told by a bruff man about 2 years ago that they approched the rovers and got no response, but this person was also in the process of recruiting rovers/meanus players at the time just before the transfer deadline so that message could also be viewed as propganda. The person in question does work very hard for football in bruff and i feel did not mean to harm the sport but I dont, and didnt believe at the time, that any real attempt to solve the problem, so all it amounted to was the usual 'pub talk' that has been going on for years. I understand that both clubs don't wasnt to lose any of their identity but a solution is vital for both clubs, and I feel the suggestion of amalgamation of the the teams as with seperate juniors and seniors in hurling and football gives the best solution to everyones issues. My first post, while a bit over zealous and misjudged in parts which I have apologised for above, but does represent my frustrations over the years with this problem. With club AGMs coming up in a couple of months, which I hope to attend both again this year, real talks and attempts to solve the problem need to start now, so the 'top tables' can be presented with a real viable solution. If left to board level, it just continues on as always being placated with small talk each year. I think the majority of players want this and both codes are open to it but at board level on both sides, certain people in control wont allow it to be entertained so in turn hinder the rest because of their own misjudged egos. Hopefully something can be sorted out but I feel the issue needs to be forced at board level, which may need threat of mass transfers in both directions get things moving for the benefit of everyone involved.

Cassius (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 22/10/2009 05:53:37    462462

Ya and hope that they dont overlook the legends in the parish when picking mgt team.

thisisouryear (Limerick) - Posts: 84 - 22/10/2009 10:50:51    462602

cassius---
you've got way too much time on your hands.. did you eat a dictionairy or something

lovelystuff7 (Limerick) - Posts: 82 - 22/10/2009 11:42:07    462663

from what i hear something very similar may be about to happen back west in the coming few years, wicked talk of a small Junior A Hurling club amalgamating with their Intermediate nextdoor neighbours...Hurling only, neither club play football...nice team there if they did join...

fast_hands (Limerick) - Posts: 116 - 24/10/2009 03:37:39    464866

i think that fedamore and camouge should join together...it would be great to see. there would surely win the county then, they would have no excuse because camouge are a dedicated club and never give up and with that extra bit of help from there neighbours fedamore (who have quite a few talented players), they would succeed. i personally think that a few players, that left camouge for bruff, would come back and play for this team.

theatreofdreams (Limerick) - Posts: 73 - 24/10/2009 12:47:07    464984

I personally think Fedamore and Camogue should join simply because it will give lads a chance to go out and enjoy their hurling/football and maybe for once win a few games rather than going out on to a pitch there, hardly fielding a team and giving the championship a right lash for once in a while!
Fedamore have some good potential there in young Malone in goal played with Limerick under 17 along hurling with Nigel R and he also played U21 with Limerick this year (football) and young Fitzgerald played minor for Limerick hurlers, Alan Shire was on the east Limerick team and played harty cup with St Clements, and you have the young Shinneys that were on the Geraldines team, i mean theres great potential there put they are being dragged down because they are not getting a chance! Dont forget Fedamore joined minor with Bruff in 05 and won the Hurling county with Malone Nigel Shire and M Shinney

Camogue have some fine players in JJ Hayes and M Collins, Andy O N, Seanie C, 2 Maddens
I mean give these lads a chance you know, fair enough the Camogue lads are well looked after, might not be the case with the Fedamore and all the lads know eachother bar 1 or 2 but still.

It would be nice to see, their clubs need it badly

dirtyjuniorhurl (Limerick) - Posts: 7 - 29/10/2009 18:06:33    469986

i would think camog and fedamore joining would result in a more equal partnership.

pullhaard (Limerick) - Posts: 195 - 30/10/2009 08:54:54    470529

just see two former camogue players played in senior trials last week ,

thisisouryear (Limerick) - Posts: 84 - 02/11/2009 12:41:17    472874

facebook page on the fedamore/camogue debate is now set up if anyone wants to check it out - amalgamation seems to be the suggestion, Glenogra CLG to be precise

ilprincipino (Limerick) - Posts: 4 - 17/11/2009 20:50:49    486639

NOT GOIN TO HAPPEN

i suggest those who insist on draggin dis up over and over again,put a bit more effort in to der respected clubs and foget about joining 2 clubs dat need to get their own clubs in order before joining wit each other or any other team

martydmike (Limerick) - Posts: 191 - 17/11/2009 23:14:16    486849

Doesn't look like its going to happen. I think Camogue wanted to try it out for 12 months and fedamore were not happy. Both teams need to do something for hurling. Fedamore are very poor in football. Camogue won't have a bad team next year in football. Mikey collins is to sign back from Bruff. Also Shane O Sullivan will be back and Steven Keating will be back from injury. 3 very good players and also to mention Brian and Paudi O Conner. Not a bad team. Should give it a right shot next season.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 10/12/2009 23:50:56    510420

they should be allowed join... they would be just like any other amalgamated team! camogue deserve the chance of some glory and they need a bit of help... i heard that a few players are thinking of coming back to the rovers... any truth in this???

theatreofdreams (Limerick) - Posts: 73 - 11/12/2009 00:25:12    510448

i heard that andy o'neill and jason hayes are cuming back also.. and that they will be bringing a few more players with them if they do

lovelystuff7 (Limerick) - Posts: 82 - 11/12/2009 13:32:43    510773

I am pals with 1 or 2 of the players and id say if they had got the go ahead to join with Fedamore then they might have told the Bruff lads were to stick it, if they wanted to sign back again. There is alot of people in the rovers that are not happy with these players leaving in the first place. Don't know if it is true but would say that they hardly will leave bruff. Bruff only lost by a goal to na piarsiagh in Co. Quat Final and were missing 3 key players so they would have a good chance winning interm next year.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 11/12/2009 14:42:29    510872

Don't think either them 2 players will return. Aren't Camogue getting a few from Manister too tho? I don't believe its just players from meanus that play for Camogue. I would say they could have 1 or 2 from town too playing. They are loosing players too to Bruff but if they have been getting Manister players who should by right be playing with Banogue or Croom then it is hard to feel sorry for the rovers. Would maybe feel sorry for fedamore more.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 11/12/2009 15:26:47    510913